Drifte Talon Restoration

[Drifte]

So, it is time for a 6bolt build. I want suggestions from all on parts for this motor. like what bearings, what rings, should I have it built, or build it myself. I want to know it all...NOW!

6 bolt-$200
arp head studs-$100
head gasket- MLS
bearings-clevite 77
pistons- stock
rods- stock
timing belt- oem
flywheel- fidanza
clutch- spec stg.3
http://iowaautoforums.com/download/file.php?id=3662&t=1

[Stutz]

I know where what cheer is, my grandpa owns some farm land in that area

[DustinsDuster]

we're both going to have fresh 6bolts; awesome. i took mine up to Performance Concepts yesterday. the plan is to check everything out, make sure its ok, wash and clean the block, head, crank, rods, and pistons, shave the block and head for flatness, and disassemble/clean/reassemble the head with new valveseals and a valvejob.

i do still need injectors though; anyone have any sitting around?

P.S. - i would go to Virgil to get Clevite 77 bearings. i got the rod and main bearings for less than $55 from him.

[TbTalon94]

Head Gasket: MLS or Cometic w/copper spray ;)
Clutch: Spec3 or Spec3+ with Fidanza flywheel
Pistons/Rods: 2g pistons/1g rods or Eagle/Wiseco-JE
Bearings: Clevite 77 or ACL race
Timing Belt: OEM

Probably would do new valve seals/guides while your in it. Unless they were recently replaced. ARP everything is always good.

I could just sell you my entire motor if you'd like from the Talon :). Cams and all.

[DustinsDuster]

at first i thought i was getting ripped off after i read your prices; but then i remembered i'm having my head disassembled and cleaned, having a valvejob done, new valve seals installed and a few broken studs removed. i think i'm doing alright

[slo4cyl]

The motor we had lined up turned out to be a non-turbo, so Little hooked my up with another 6bolt, turbo this time. But yea, Im not getting any head work done, probably should though... I'll tear into it this weekend after I attempt a burnout or something :)

thanks for all the good words above colton...to bad that motor turned out bein a NA but at least you found one... idk if i would attempt a burnout...might end up needing more work than you planned on...or the motor could come out on its own i guess :suspect:

[Sean485]

The N/A 4g63 is the same except for oil squirter's and pistons... If you do arp mains make sure you get the mains line-honed or the bores might not be 100% true. It would be beneficial to use a torque plate as well when you bore the cylinders.

[Drifte]

^ yea thats the boring stuff brent and I discussed over the phone and such. Motor is sitting on to mounts, waiting for the balance bar for the hoist. It woulda been out but couldnt find it. The car barely started and ran to get it 50 ft into the shed.

have a few pics ill post a little later

[Drifte]

working.

[DustinsDuster]

i know ive said it before; but i just want to say again that i love your valvecover. smooth criminal...

[Drifte]

dj0820 showed up, shuffled his way into the shed singing " im doin the crank walk"

[boxmakingman]

Keep power steering.
But get MR2 electric power steering pump and hide it away somewhere.

[Drifte]

excellent idea, the pump was all thats in my way. I want this to remain a nice street car, minus the cruise control, I hate that junk.

[belittle]

Still needing that motor this weekend?

Build looks good.

I personally would just keep with an act 2600. I've read many a horror stories on the spec clutches.

I also wouldn't waste your time on 2g pistons. All said and done you could get a set of eagles/weisco for a couple hundred more.

Lastly, if you want some arp's I have an extra set. 35 bucks for them. Also a head gasket that looks barely used.

[Drifte]

I will be calling you shortly and coming by^ :)

[Drifte]

Picked up the 6bolt saturday. Came with arp head studs and awd flywheel. Also grabbed a few miscellaneous interior parts I was missing. Littles dsm warehouse is fun, coulda spent a lot more time and money.

thats right count the flywheel bolts...

[DustinsDuster]

so apparently my block needs to be bored. anyone have any suggestions for pistons? i dont want stock replacement, and i want something forged. i dont need the best, all out race pistons; just a good, durable decently inexpensive set.

[Drifte]

Mahle Pistons $470, Manly $420, Wiseco $500. Thats just kind of an average price. If you need links to dsm part sources let us know. Hopefully mine just needs a hone, came out of a running car so I'm hopeful.

[Drifte]

lots of progress on little things.
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v275/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32033032_6077.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v275/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32033031_5789.jpg

found a stock clutch disc in this mf!

[TbTalon94]

didn't he tell you it was a Centerforce?

still no dump tube...maybe you should come back to CR and hang out with me and you'd get a dump tube.

[Drifte]

yea I was told it had a centerforce. I am in CR right now killing time waiting for the new engine. I have to order some parts yet though too. I was thinking of some intercooler modifications and new charge pipe, I'll talk to you about that later though.

[slo4cyl]

yea I was told it had a centerforce. I am in CR right now killing time waiting for the new engine. I have to order some parts yet though too. I was thinking of some intercooler modifications and new charge pipe, I'll talk to you about that later though.

so what are you gonna do about your wrong clutch?

[Drifte]

Well I suppose I can talk to the seller about the car and get some money back. We will see though, for now I am waiting for my new parts. I need to meet up with Trevor and Brad and get that black leather swapped in.

[TbTalon94]

Colton I have a spec3 clutch and fidanza flywheel....remember. It's coming out and you could swap it in, good to go. I have A LOT of shit you could use. Like the big FMIC and piping :)

[TbTalon94]

so where's the update. I know you've been spending lots of time with it :)

[Drifte]

Some progress from last weekend.
http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32077413_5975.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32077364_9277.jpg
Bottom end mostly assembled. Modified motor mount as well.
http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32077365_9628.jpg
Modified coolant pipe slightly.
http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32077366_9934.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32077367_282.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32077368_585.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32077369_922.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32077370_1249.jpg

I have a good bit a work ahead of me just yet. Waiting for head gasket, manifold gasket and flywheel bolts.

[TbTalon94]

hmm i have all THREE of those items ^^

Oil cooler and timing components look good though. Didn't keep my Wix filter i see :(.

I wouldn't of painted the block black. It looks good but man is it going to be hard to see and oil leak.

[Drifte]

Heres what I want to do with the intercooler.

[TbTalon94]

I could do that. Bring it to me.

[Drifte]

I'll have to bring the whole car. Depending also on if we use the same charge pipe just modify it, or use that pretty aluminum everywhere...then that all depends on costs too.

[TbTalon94]

I actually got a good cheap place to buy aluminum bends from, but they aren't polished. So if you want to do that just tell me, and we can order some up. You could just polish them later. Would be nice to build all new pipes that fit, look, and perform great :)

[Drifte]

Yea, I'm sure we'll be talking more about this.
A few steps yet to take:
Get it running
AEM WB02
AEM True Boost
Coilovers
Wheels
Some paint
And somewhere in their is the charge pipe. Hopefully sooner than later.

[DJ0820]

The crank walk is the newest dance craze sweeping the nation...ok maybe it's not new at all

[Drifte]

Couple pics. They suck, but...yea.
http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32143213_1906.jpg

and this pics, everythings in except intake and charge pipe, and battery; which currently is in a tractor.
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v338/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32146120_6487.jpg

heres how it sat sunday:
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v309/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32077368_585.jpg

[TbTalon94]

what happened to "tons of pictures" lol, or did you upload those with 56k ^

[Drifte]

well its done but i forgot my camera...I love the smell of a fresh dsm engine. Maybe its the paint, Im not sure, but its a distinct smell.

[96-eclipse-gst]

Well Colton good job, it looks awesome. I bet you can't wait to drive it again. I'm starting to get anxious too but knowing that I will have so many issues fixed helps keep me calmed down. Good Luck and we can't wait to see it in action again.

[TbTalon94]

You forgot the camera...wtf colton. What is with you and forgetting the most important thing!

[JacobS]

haha trevor stop hounding him!!! hes trying to get it done. o by the way...i may be calling you about some parts here in the near future...my build is underway...

[TbTalon94]

I've got to hound him...no one else does!!

Gimme a call when your ready :) got my number?

[Drifte]

ofcourse i have your number. I started and drove the car saturday. Then Sunday I noticed my fuel pressure struggling, and it seems my pump is junk. I didnt replace it so I dont really excpect much of it, and all the fuel lines were leaking. I did a pressure test to 90psi, and the rail lines and regulator held strong, everything else leaked. I went to pull the pump and it had 3 out of 6 studs broken off, and I saw it was leaking. So i am going to have to drill the tank and weld in new studs, probably replace the pump and maybe install new lines from pump to firewall, new connectors as well. But saturday it ran really nice :)

[TbTalon94]

You need to drop your battery down on the subframe. It looks a million times cleaner and would help with your tuck, and then you don't have to re-locate it.

[Drifte]

The plan was to relocate it or put it on the subframe, but didnt have time for either. So its still in the stock place. theirs a few hoses/wires that are just kinda tossed in their right now that need tucked away too. I made the mistake of reinstalling my fender and liner to soon.

[Xboosted23X]

did you drop the motor and trans separate.

[Drifte]

pulled them out together, put them back in separate. I work by myself so theirs little things you have to do a little differently than normal.

[Drifte]

haha who'd a thought the battery caused all this trouble. New battery fo free ninety nine.

[Luminatorz34]

i think you got took if a battery cost you free ninety nine

[Luminatorz34]

also, now i know why it took you sooooo long o get your talon running....snapping all those pichas had to take a long time. haha

[StreetSweeper]

Props :WORSHIP: on the clean engine bay man! i was allways really anal about my shit being spotless under the hood.. and you dont find to many clean bays around here.. looks good for sure!

[Drifte]

Thanks, took a lot of work, and lots of work yet to go.

Taking pictures does kinda throw you off but I always hate looking back and wishing I had a picture of something.

Thanks for the compliments :)

needs some wheels doesnt it?

[Ricky]

yeah it does but i would wait till after winter now.. unless u have some lined up already

[Drifte]

Fuel system.

Fuel pump assembly
http://www.iowaautoforums.com/download/file.php?id=3791&mode=view
^that -an fitting is too tall and I need to find something with a tighter bend.

Next I have images of the old to help me decide where(how) I'm installing the new.

[lil krumm]

so is this fucker runnin right yet or what?

[TbTalon94]

you need this:

http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/images/921106.jpg

which is at...http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.ph ... t=Aluminum (http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.php?shop=&dept=Aluminum)

Should do you right.

[TbTalon94]

or this:

http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/images/809006.jpg

which is at..http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.ph ... wivel-Seal (http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.php?shop=&dept=Swivel-Seal)

[Drifte]

yes, the 2nd one is what i need, but its $20!!! Hopefully Import Evolution has them ins tock, or at least can get them at a decent price.

Kent, it was running, but the fuel lines still leaked and I couldnt take it anymore. So its all getting replaced.

[Xboosted23X]

i would also check h & w for an fittings they had everything i needed for my return line

[TbTalon94]

Sperry's has fittings too.

[DustinsDuster]

Brian and Scott at H&W- or you could call Virgil at 393-2108

[Drifte]

I just talked to Ryan at Import Evolution, he may have something that works. If not I'll use it on the rail. Hopefully get this line on before it gets to much colder.

Then its on to diagnosing my new misfire :/

[Xboosted23X]

have you done a boost leak test.
or a compression test

[Drifte]

no, terrified, junks brand new.

[Drifte]

Parts here and installed. The tighter 90degree fitting still wasnt quiet enough, but will work for now. Im going to end up using it on the rail instead of the pictured fitting on their now. Quick and easy install, takes about an hour.Going to use the old line as the return line eventually.

[TbTalon94]

So is it running yet? Not leaking?

[Drifte]

Intakes in cr :/

[TbTalon94]

LoL and your going to chicago. Just retro-fit the FP intake on, drive it here and i'll build an intake for ya. Gotta let me know though cuz I don't have bends laying around.

[Drifte]

Left the intake in CR again, may pick it up tonight though. Hopefully it runs after this though :/

[Ricky]

driving it around yet?

[Drifte]

It was leaking.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/pump_fix.jpg

Doesnt now. This fixed the misfire as well, wasnt getting enough fuel pressure to open all the injectors or to spray out of them.

[xci.ed6]

your injectors open against fuel pressah brah

[xci.ed6]

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/fuel-injection-diagram.gif

[lil krumm]

so when will i be seeing this car again?

[Drifte]

idk need some miles on the new engine before I go on a long cruise.

[TbTalon94]

Was it leaking at the O-ring on the fuel pump or what? It shoudn't leak in that stock hose assembly? What is going on there.

[Drifte]

Yea at the 0-ring. I tried just about everything and it just wouldnt sit tight. Brent had told me this weekend he did the mod I have pictured, and his car has worked great for a couple 3 years now. Should be good to go.

Need to replace the 1, ONE! Freakin line I didnt before. The filter to rail line is leaking at the filter. Man those old fittings suck.

[TbTalon94]

you should have replaced all that shit when you got the damn car.

[Drifte]

Yea, hind sight is 20:20. Remember when I got the FPR and we realized I HAD to replace the return line too, it was so rotted it was INCREDIBLE it hadn't burst.

School is intesnse right, now and a few side projects going on as well. But I hope to fix that leaky line (somehow :/) and take it for a spin!

[TbTalon94]

But it ran fine?

Oh and if you would have told me I could have just welded on a damn barb on the inside instead of leaving that stock piece. Would have been a lot more reasuring then 3 hose clamps :suspect:

[Stro]

It ran, idk about fine, but wheels are turning.

Overheats like its paid to do it. ;)

[Drifte]

Ran ok, needs coolant. The pump assembly isnt just clamped in, its ran onto the steel tube 3 " and the rubber hose is alone for about 1/4" then clamped to the pump.

[Drifte]

I took a pic, see its now parked differently than it has been for a few months now...can ya tell?

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v377/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32351360_20.jpg

probably not, but I promise it moved.

[TbTalon94]

LOL yea it was backed in last time I saw it, so she moved. *clap clap*

[n8kerns]

Lol yup was facing the other way last I was there. =P Whats Krumm?

[TbTalon94]

his name......

[n8kerns]

Oh...never knew his last name. Lol makes sense =P

[96-eclipse-gst]

Its ok Colton, my fuel filter to fuel rail burst when I started my car up at a friends house a few years ago. On a hill too, fuel was just running down the road. Just took it off and went to custom hose and WA LA they fixed it for like $1. It was awesome. Cool your car kinda runs. My car is running, Seth's car im not sure runs or not. We are like the last few true dsmers around. Everyone else has become traitors.

[TbTalon94]

lol Colton would switch in a second if he could.....don't be fooled.

[Ricky]

now pull the front wheels up! since its a dsm thing

[Drifte]

I wouldnt be surprised if i could. BUt if I "could" afford a silver evo 9...I'd be all over it.

Sorry Andrew. ya have ot remember I've had dsms since i was 15. That means Ive been driving someone elses car since I waas 14.

[TbTalon94]

now pull the front wheels up! since its a dsm thing

Your just jelous.

[Ricky]

I wouldnt be surprised if i could. BUt if I "could" afford a silver evo 9...I'd be all over it.

Sorry Andrew. ya have ot remember I've had dsms since i was 15. That means Ive been driving someone elses car since I waas 14.


haha i get it.


.... im thinking of making the switch this summer.....

[96-eclipse-gst]

Well of course I understand that, If I could afford an EVO I would buy one too. For now I have to stick with my baby. I have had her for over 4 years now. I think I am the only one who has had ONE dsm. You guys have all had like nine of em.

[Drifte]

8!

I cant sell mine, at least not with grandmas permission, she helped me rebuild it.

[n8kerns]

I've only had 1 ;-P well I dont count the $100 1.8L eclipse my dad bought me. Going on a year with my baby, and how much I've invested in it is slowly getting closer to amount paid for car lmao. I'm sure ya'll know what I'm talking about =)

[Ricky]

have trevor boost leak test it with his soapy water. kinda sucks when you do test it cuz you find stuff out that pisses you off......

[TbTalon94]

It ran shitty because of that BOV 100%. I could turn the damn thing with my hand. Throw that 1g on and see if it runs better. I've got some injector seals sitting around if you need some also.

[Drifte]

I took the bov off completely and covered it. Didnt change anything. And I can hear air coming from somewhere by the intake mani, and its very audible. IDK what that is about.

[n8kerns]

Cut a piece of hose to use to find where its coming from. And where are you hooking the boost leak tester up to? Try hooking it up to the TB to eliminate some of the other stuff.

[xci.ed6]

get some carb cleaner or ether. Spray it around, when you hit the leak the engine will run funny. Much easier than listening over a noisy 4-four-gee-shitty-three.

[TbTalon94]

lol it already runs funny, he just needs to do a boost leak test...but needs an air compressor for that!

Maybe your intake mani gasket is bad?

[Drifte]

Well after I get all the kinks worked out the plans for more parts continue!

TAB charge pipe
[edit] TAB FMIC (so I will have my apex-i gt up for sale with charge pipe)
TAB intake w/ k&n
megan coilovers
wheels: DC5's, RPF1's...
cams: oh boy

That sums it up enough I believe?...

[TbTalon94]

add a TAB FMIC to that list....

[n8kerns]

My dad has a portable air compressor if you have a truck or suv we could take it to your place and boost leak test it. If you need.

[Drifte]

I wish I had a truck! But thanks for the offer nate. I'll get something figured out.

[TbTalon94]

Looks like moisture to me. How is your valve cover vented?

[Drifte]

stupid little filter.

Yea Brent and I were thinking moisture, as the oil looks good. I have to go check the coolant, change the oil, and then check the fan relay and wiring, see if theirs a prob their. Then its time for some more driving.

[TbTalon94]

get that damn filter off there. Atleast run a hose to the ground. Seriously

[xci.ed6]

I have a polished aluminum catch can you can have.

[Drifte]

I had a hose on their, then with the rebuild lost it. ^ sweet.

[Drifte]

I put it in the snoooow. Wheels are a must for next year!
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v700/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32396860_7278.jpg
[edit] just noticed talon is suffering from brown tire... I blame the power plant.

[lil krumm]

lets race, i bet my 2wd owns you.

[Drifte]

I dont think it matters what wheel drive you are country.
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v700/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32396865_6321.jpg

[Luminatorz34]

damn thats a nice clean engine bay...how did u get rid of that coil of a throttle cable mess that loops around the fuel rail and back to the throttle body? i like how that looks

[Drifte]

When I installed the new non-cruise throttle cable i looped it under the intake manifold instead of over. Once the batteries moved and the new charge pipe and intake on it should look so much better. I cant wait. I see so many things out of place or dirty in that pic im wishing I hadnt even posted it.

[Drifte]

oh, but thanks for the compliment..lot of hours into making it presentable.

[n8kerns]

I see so many things out of place or dirty in that pic im wishing I hadnt even posted it.


Your engine bay is definitely presentable, it looks amazing. Do you have a CAI or is your filter just shoved way over?

[Drifte]

Filter is shoved so far over its non existent at this point. I'll have to remember to cram that back in their.

[TbTalon94]

You need a heat shield, add that to the list with your charge piping and intake. You should see the sweet one we made for my evo. :)

[Drifte]

you should show it to me.

[TbTalon94]

K here it is. I haven't polished it up or anything, still looks sexy to me :)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g49/Tbtalon94/TAB-FAB/IMG_0213.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g49/Tbtalon94/TAB-FAB/IMG_0214.jpg

Yes I know my camera sucks. It's my phone lol

[Drifte]

looks like a nice snug fit. I notice you went with ss, think its to hot to run aluminum?

[TbTalon94]

Yea probably a bit hot to run aluminum. Plus SS is a lot more sturdy in thinner material.

[Drifte]

I bet that'd look pretty good powder coated black or silver or something. Polished would look od right next to the other polished aluminum stuff IMO.

[TbTalon94]

Not in front of a black valve cover :)

[Drifte]

Final mod list for 2008 on Talon:
Bolt On's:
20g: td05 turbine housing (clipped to Buschur specs) and a td06 compressor, TRE 3” inlet mod., Tial waste gate open dump, tubular 02 housing, apex-i fmic, blitz ss bov, apex-i 3" turbo back, walbro 255, aeromotive fpr, import evolution install kit -6an ss braided lines, -6AN stainless braided fuel lines from pump to sx 10 micron filter, to rail, 2g maf, k&n, fic 650cc injectors, ported 2g manifold, FP intake, non cruise throttle cable, MSD wires, Air oil cooler w/ -an push lock and earls rad.
Engine:
Fresh 6 bolt, all new timing components , Arp Head studs, Arp Rod bolts, Arp Main studs, MLS Headgasket, b/s removed, rebuilt oil pump, earls air oil cooler, no power steering or a/c.
Engine management:
apex-i safc, stage 3 keydiver chip.
Drivetrain:
Spec stage 3, fidanza aluminum flywheel, revised clutch fork, shimmed pivot ball, solid shifter inside, welded clutch pedal, extended slave, stainless braided soft line. Mobile 1 synthetic trans fluid, redline heavy shock proof transfer case and rear diff fluid.
Suspension:
goldline springs, kyb gr2 struts, custom rear adjustable upper control arms, front upper strut bar, rear upper strut bar.

Key diver chip stage 3 chip specs:
7500-6000 selectable rev limit
stutterbox 4500-4750-5000-5250-5500
no fuel cut
octane reset 91
2x karman
knocksum gauge, CEL light at 3 knock
enhance closed loop maps for better mpg
650cc injectors / 312uS deadtime
stock 2 mas
800rpm idle
30% expanded maps, 16* advance on top map
no airflow cap
43psi bfp
10.5:1 wot afr

[TbTalon94]

Dude...we literally have like the exact same set-up, but i'm Evo and your DSM. We should run them.

[Drifte]

That sounds fun, but right now I dont even want to think about racing it. Although I know the evo wont be out for a while...The talon motor sounds really healthy. The drive train sounds like bobcats through a meat grinder...The drive shaft needs completely rebuilt.

Car is fantastic in the snow/ice without power steering. I can feel and respond to everything. I can also get the car to pivot instead of do a normal turn...thats fun.

[TbTalon94]

I got a new toy...it might not be close anymore...

[Jappbox]

I got a new toy...it might not be close anymore...


LOL, I want to help with this "new toy" you got there... It really wont be close now.... :HEYYOU:

[Drifte]

aem vs safc. its ON!!!

[TbTalon94]

hey...Safc and a chip ;)

[Drifte]

lol yea, tell me what i have...that's the future excuse for when my old junk whoops on you. "afc AND A CHIP!!!

LOL

now tell me about your a/c and power steering haha.

[TbTalon94]

now tell me about your a/c and power steering haha.

They work? :suspect:

[Drifte]

yea that was the joke. way to make it bad with that little smiley.

[JustinS]

Colton, you free anytime tomorrow? I'll be in CF and I have an hour or so to kill during the game. I'd like to take a ride in the drifte talon.

[Jappbox]

Trevor has more weight though, and dont let me forget 4 doors...

[TbTalon94]

Colton wishes he had 4 doors.

[Drifte]

Colton, you free anytime tomorrow? I'll be in CF and I have an hour or so to kill during the game. I'd like to take a ride in the drifte talon.
if you bring your audi....

[Ricky]

is it just the fans not working? did you check the fuse and connectors?
(im sure you did but im just making sure)

[Drifte]

well sort of. It was fantastic outside today, but the day was wasted because family was up here and theirs a game going on. I dont have my manual that shows me the wiring diagram either. Next thing to try would be jumping the temp sensor terminals to see if thats the culprit. IF that does nothing my fan is dead. And its time for slimline pushers. Or it could mean my wiring is bad somewhere...At this point its tempting to hard wire it but thats a hassle too.

[JustinS]

Colton, you free anytime tomorrow? I'll be in CF and I have an hour or so to kill during the game. I'd like to take a ride in the drifte talon.
if you bring your audi....
I don't have the key to the garage...

[TbTalon94]

well sort of. It was fantastic outside today, but the day was wasted because family was up here and theirs a game going on. I dont have my manual that shows me the wiring diagram either. Next thing to try would be jumping the temp sensor terminals to see if thats the culprit. IF that does nothing my fan is dead. And its time for slimline pushers. Or it could mean my wiring is bad somewhere...At this point its tempting to hard wire it but thats a hassle too.

I have like 3-5 fans sitting around you could try.

[Drifte]

yea turned out to be a bad coolant temp sensor...why does this stuff always go bad after a rebuild? Right now I just have a jumper wire at the sensor wires to make the fan run all the time. Hopefully this fixes the over heating.

[Drifte]

Taking battery and alternator to advance auto tonight to test. Hopefully all problems are due to a faulty voltage regulator.

[Drifte]

Had tested. Battery was good, and should be as its about a month old. Alternator tested "good" to advances standards, However, I need someone to tell me if this shows its bad or not. The alternator when simpy on produced 15volts. Once loaded it produced about 15.5v. That seems wrong to me, but its in advance autos vast green section of OK (on the voltmeter), but it was near the limit.

It sounds way high to me, but I cant really fight it if its not ok. Im going to reinstall it and add some grounds and hope for the best.

[TbTalon94]

That's the voltage regulator going out. You need to explain to them what the car is doing, and they have to replaced it under warranty. I've replaced probably 6-8 alternators on my DSMs..fucking things never last.

[Drifte]

Added 1 ground from the intake manifold to the strut tower. Car has no more problems...

[TbTalon94]

Did you take off the ground that went from the intake manifold to the firewall?

[Drifte]

IM to firewall was connected, but loosely. ANd my firewall doesnt have a lot of options anymore, so I bolted it to the strut tower, and it seems to have made it all better. Oddly a lot better so far actually. THe car really died off before between shifts and now it shifts smoothly...weird?

[TbTalon94]

That's what happens when you take shit off the engine to look "clean"

[Drifte]

oil pressure seems a little low..hmm

car runs great though.

[slo4cyl]

oil pressure seems a little low..hmm

car runs great though.

awesome... hope we got the right idea with the oil pressure

[Drifte]

Hopefully its nothing. The gauge wasnt hooked up with the last motor so I really dont have much to off of other than I think it "should" read somewhere between the two lines on the gauge. But its a little below the lower line...

I found a super low mileage silver talon I make get for the garage here soon...swap a few things over to it...

[TbTalon94]

Run it off the head, you won't have a problem. I promise. Specially with no balance shafts.

[Drifte]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/talon_n1.jpg?t=1230865178

[DustinsDuster]

STUPID MONKEY!

[Luminatorz34]

LOL i love the monkey

[n8kerns]

What exhaust do you have? 3" megan?

[Xboosted23X]

looks like apexi n1

[Drifte]

^ Correct.

[n8kerns]

Ahh the cans look damn close lol
except the megan I got doesnt fit for crap lol

[JustinS]

http://stewiesplayground.com/wp-content/evilmonkey.jpg

[Drifte]

reminds me, I got pulled over again last night. probably 1/5 of the time I drive it I get pulled over. Really no reason most of the time.

[Jappbox]

Is the reason Cedar FAlls?? lol...

[JustinS]

Probably, I saw a professor pulled over on the UNI campus today haha.

[Drifte]

I shouldn't be to mad, never received a ticket after all these stops. The last cop kept his distance, I only saw him out of my peripherals the entire time. Then he left.

UNI police really don't have a lot going on, so try to keep themselves busy, so really nothing slips by them.

[Ricky]

what was his reason to pull you over?

[Drifte]

headlights again.

cop "anything I should know about the car, any warrants our for your arrest."
me "no"
cop "brb"
.....
cop "ok im gonna give you a verbal warning (something/something) and we can stop hastlin ya"
me "sweet"
cop "any questions or anything?"
me "nope"

and off I went, my car sounded louder than ever at that moment. I forget a lot of the details, we had just left the bar and it was karaoke night and all I could hear was a ringing in my ears.

[Ricky]

you have to stop giving them reasons to pull u over :)

i havent been pulled over since the 98 in a 70 ticket... you remember that?

[Drifte]

Yea I remember. I haven't had a ticket though since the 1** in a 70...that was 2004.

[allgo]

Yea I remember. I haven't had a ticket though since the 1** in a 70...that was 2004.


Must have been one hell of a tailwind for anything you got to go over 100mph..lol

[Drifte]

It was Christmas eve...magical things happen.

[Drifte]

oil pressure/rpm before moving turbo oil feed line.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/oil-pressure.jpg?t=1232473933

[Drifte]

detail at the station.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/station_lights.jpg?t=1232474926
my wack mirror :/

More to come.

[Drifte]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/carwash_station.jpg?t=1232475870

[Drifte]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/bw_tanker.jpg?t=1232477211

[TbTalon94]

That one is cool ^

[Drifte]

one more? And thank you^!
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/from-tanker.jpg?t=1232478366

[Drifte]

still playin around
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/talon_lighting.jpg?t=1232480472

[Drifte]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/Sneaky_talon.jpg?t=1232481261

[lil krumm]

wheres the stuck pictures?

[Drifte]

only ones taken were afterward with erics iphone.

[Drifte]

pics from the iphone.

[lil krumm]

dustin took some when i first got out there with my truck.

[Ricky]

that was a fun day. good thing i didnt try and make it out there that night. I think the suby would have been done for.

[TbTalon94]

lol wow you weren't kidding when you said every inch was packed with snow!!

[Drifte]

^thats actually after a couple hours of cleaning it out, it was stuuupid.

[krustindumm]

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/xci_ed6/other%20peoples%20cars/0118091311.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/xci_ed6/other%20peoples%20cars/0118091311a.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/xci_ed6/other%20peoples%20cars/0118091311b.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/xci_ed6/other%20peoples%20cars/0118091311c.jpg

[Drifte]

haha i didnt even see you taking pictures while i was doing that. Sweet, definitely saving those.

[lil krumm]

wheres the pictures that show my sweet lights?

[Xboosted23X]

what kind of intake temps were you seeing

[lil krumm]

oh and for those people making fun of me for lifting a 2wd truck, i didnt get stuck in the drifts, the stock one did.

[TbTalon94]

lol wtf were you even doing trying to drive on that road.

[Drifte]

lol I wasnt paying attention to intake temps. That road appeared clear at the time, and we had been running block to block trying to find a clear road to the house you can see in the distance of the latest pics. With both the civics stuck a few blocks back I didnt think I did to bad.

[DustinsDuster]

hahahaha, even though his back is to the camera, i can totally tell that is Kenton, hehehe.

[lil krumm]

why? cause i was the only one prepared for the weather....lol

[Drifte]

ha, dude my car has 300 miles on it now. I hadn't even plan to drive it the snow this year.

[DustinsDuster]

nah, just the way you are standing, i dont know why, but i totally knew it was you.

[Ricky]

the pics dont even show how bad it really was. No car would have made it through. Kent even your truck that night would have gotten stuck.

[lil krumm]

i was out driving that night, i didnt get stuck.... they got stuck at what 5? i was out driving then, and then again around 10. i did fine. it just takes speed and a heavy foot to keep pushin your ass through it. and i dont give a shit about my truck and colt cares about his truck so when it made a bad sound he stopped, i would've just pushed it that much harder....

[Drifte]

hit the drift and white out so couldnt see, and the last thing I did see was a pole for the power lines.

[krustindumm]

lol, i've seen kent's truck stuck in our parents yard more times than I can count.

[Ricky]

i was out driving that night, i didnt get stuck.... they got stuck at what 5? i was out driving then, and then again around 10. i did fine. it just takes speed and a heavy foot to keep pushin your ass through it. and i dont give a shit about my truck and colt cares about his truck so when it made a bad sound he stopped, i would've just pushed it that much harder....


kent i was out driving around too that night... did you drive on gravel roads like that? the other roads where doable.

[lil krumm]

you guys chill out. no one remember last year where my truck was stuck on n. cherry valley for two weeks before the county came out with a snow blower to get down that road? yea that was fun, two duramax's got stuck trying to get me out. and my buddy with the chipped cummins said my truck was the worst thing he's ever had to pull out. and that was AFTER they plowed around my truck...

[lil krumm]

oh and i've only been stuck out in my parents yard twice. and the last time the only problem was the PURE FUCKING ICE underneath everything. ask derek, cause the tractor barely got me out of that one.

[Jappbox]

getting defensive on being stuck..LOL.. on some of those country roads by waterloo they dont even let the chained 6 wheel plows in there. Big snow blowers only. besides it only got stuck cause its not a Toyota. Bahahahahaha

[Ricky]

so Colton... any updates......? :)

[Drifte]

yea, snow drift may have taken out transfer case. will know more after I pull some more parts off this afternoon.

[Ricky]

well tow truck almost took out the Rex.... man that was scary!

[Drifte]

oh that story, you go ahead and tell that one im going to get back to work!

Need to look at my gas tank options. Modifiying it is a lot of work and somewhat dangerous. Only Mitsubishi sells a NEW tank and its about $1k. Next best option is this sweet jmfab tank. http://www.jmfabrications.com/catalog/p ... ddda3224a6 (http://www.jmfabrications.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=295&osCsid=184587f4646a8f6d4db901ddda3224a6)
http://www.jmfabrications.com/catalog/#
but at only 7 gallons IDK how usefull that could be?

Studs are broken off and its a weird design not sure how I will save this one.

[Drifte]

Little work done this past weekend. Welded in new studs for fuel pump assembly found a great method to that. Lots of new nuts and bolts put in to the underside of the car. Undercoated as well. Still waiting on the transmission back from Kevins, no word on what was actually causing the noise yet.Also have the turbo oil feed line relocated, and oil pressure wiring redone; the snow drift yanked it out. Also since I had the tank out went ahead and changed the rear end fluid out to the redline shockproof hd I had waiting.
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2294/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32553421_7358.jpg
Going to be time for those k-sports real soon
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2294/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32553418_6250.jpg
One coat down
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/GEDC0111.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/GEDC0114.jpg?t=1234043065
Tank and assembly back in
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/GEDC0126.jpg?t=1234043080
Someday I will get a chance to tear this all out and start over
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/GEDC0121.jpg?t=1234043075
assembly in
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/GEDC0125.jpg?t=1234043077
If any one needs help with one of these in the future I have the method! I could find no one in Iowa who would do this the right way so I had to find another "right" way. Worked out fantastic.

[TbTalon94]

Looks good colton, nice work. Is that spring broke on your strut?

[slow ride]

I could have looked over the transmission for you. Let me know if you have any problems with it later.

[Drifte]

Yes unfortunately the spring is broken. And thank you slowride, Kevins been doing work for me for a long time...and it always takes a long time! I'll be sure to get a hold of you next time.

thanks for the kind words, more updates when I hear from Kevin.

[TbTalon94]

So it was something in the tranny then?

[Drifte]

Well by process of elimination I determined trans. Could actually be wrong but the transfer case was immaculate and quiet. Drive shaft and rear end made no noises. Trans seemed to make the noise I was hearing when I tried turning it by hand so I decided to have it looked over.

[Drifte]

update: NO update, no word on my trans!

on another note. Evo X MR wheels for the talon?!
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h17/1mitsubishi1/Untitled.jpg

[CiViC-Wanted]

Evo wheels always look nice on 2gs. I've been looking for a decent priced set for awhile to get rid of the wheels I have, but everyone wants gold for them.

[Drifte]

Yea evo owners :roll: lol.

[krustindumm]

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd150/xci_ed6/other%20peoples%20cars/DSC01197.jpg

I think that looks better than the MR wheels.

[TbTalon94]

Evo 8 wheels FTW... :)

[Drifte]

Their a bit to flat and non 3 dimensional for the 1g. The wheel shape really makes the 1g work. I've seen some wheels I'd really like to get for it, have a dish to them no lip.

[Jappbox]

^ Those Evo 8 Wheels Look familar. They Have been 175mph :bigthumb:

[Drifte]

Update:
Installed a CD player finally. Have the dash 3.5" coaxials mounted up and wired as fronts. The door 51/4" coaxials are wired as the rears. I want decent imaging and to be able to adjust levels a little more, and this method seems to work great! Still looking for the factory 6.5" door pods, if I cant find them will probably just build them out of some mdf or 1/4" board.

CD player has been sitting around for 4 years now, had to test it out before I wasted my time hard wiring it, soldering and heat shrinking. Pictures not importing so no fun.

[Drifte]

Wheels
I like the Tenzo DC5 and the Type M's.

Charcoal with blue lip lettering
http://www.elementwheels.com/prodimages/dc5gm.jpg
https://www.elementwheels.com/images/temp/dc5blk.jpg

http://www.elementwheels.com/prodimages/typemblk.jpg

[n8kerns]

I like that first one minus the blue lettering.
Ever since I took a chunk out of my Motegi's I've been looking at new rims. Check out the Rota Sub-Zero's they have the same general look. Think thats what I'm gonna get, unless by some miracle I figure out what kind of outdated Motegi's mine where and find some.

http://www.rotawheels.com/gallery/images/customer_cars_gallery/north_america/mk295_medium.jpg
http://www.speedstash.com/rota/Subzero_A.jpg

[Drifte]

subzeros are nice no doubt, but I really like the concave look over the lip right now. Of course I haven't found any one offering those wheels I want in 17x8 yet either.

[Drifte]

photoshop just doesnt do it for everything. Cant seem to find a good shot of the talon for testing wheels on it. But heres the dc5's.

[Ricky]

add brake rotors and it would look pretty good i think

[Drifte]

^plan on that, in photoshop and in the real world.

Looking over intercoolers I want to pick out the right fit. I know I am for sure going short route piping.

TDO6H-20G-14CM2 650 CFM. I have the BR20g but I'll use the figures I have.
Punishment racing FMIC 8" street kit.

-34x8x3.5 Intercooler

-26x8x3.5 Bar and Plate core

-650 cfm @ 1.5 psi 78% efficiency
That kit should suit me well and fit great. Its only $400. Now if I could find just the intercooler alone so I could have my own piping done that would be great. But they dont sell the core alone. Also comes flanged for 1g or greddy bov. I have neither of course.

[TbTalon94]

http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/Mits ... _info.html (http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/Mitsubishi/Eagle-90-94-Eclipse/Talon/Laser-Intercoolers-and-Piping-Kits-Intercooler-Only/c5_57_67_70/p16/ETS-90-94-1G-DSM-7-Street/Strip-Intercooler-1GDSM_IC_7SS/product_info.html)

Much better core, under $400...and just the intercooler. ETS's stuff fits 2nd to none hands down. I ran the same core on my car. I'll build you the pipes...there isn't much with short-route lol.

[krustindumm]

what is wrong with the one you have?

[Xboosted23X]

i have the ets street core on my car. it nice but i am looking to upgrade at some point.
the garrett cores are pretty good

[Drifte]

Heard back from Kevin. Not good, although i was right it was the differential bearing. It took out parts of 3rd and 5th and 2nd needed replaced anyway as it got beat up real good from the previous setup...NOT ME!!!

My current intercooler is actually pretty small and the piping snakes all around the car. I want a shorter nicer more efficient setup.

[Drifte]

i have the ets street core on my car. it nice but i am looking to upgrade at some point.
the garrett cores are pretty good
well you can let me know when you choose to do that :bigthumb:

[krustindumm]

that sux. Can you do a CRV tranny swap?

Your current intercooler setup may not be the best, or most efficient, but it is more than adequate for the maximum your engine is capable of. Don't fix what isn't broke.

[Drifte]

its not capable or more than adequate for the "maximum" my engine is capable of. I would guess my current front mount would support 300hp but not "nicely". My goal really only is 300whp. But I can imagine i make more power just by replacing that intercooler.

[Xboosted23X]

do you want piping or not
i am setup for maft blow thru
i will let you know

[Drifte]

I have 2g maf dont plan on changing it up anytime soon so no probably dont need charge pipe. Plan to get it made anyway through TAB fab.

[slow ride]

I went 11.85@116.5 with the RRE small top to bottom griffin core and a big 16g(not evo) no clip on the turbine. I also had a 2g mas, 550's, SAFC only, etc. Granted that was on 116 sunnoco, but I wouldn't worry so much about your IC at this point. Let me know if you have any questions about the trans as I have built more(correctely) than anyone around. It sound like a mess in the case though.

[TbTalon94]

He rebuilt mine ^^

oh the good ol' days, running 11's with a 16g, 550s and Safc.

[Drifte]

yea Im not far off of the "good ol' days" setup. Proven, reliable only difference is I have the chip, 20g, and soon WB02. I think Kevin was being a little over excited about it, the bearing it sounds like touched and maybe chipped a gear. I will talk to him more today and see if I can get some "better" parts in, in the process.

[Drifte]

Well kevin wants $1,100 for the parts. Not sure if labor was included, didnt sound like it.

[slow ride]

Still works good I hope :)



He rebuilt mine ^^

oh the good ol' days, running 11's with a 16g, 550s and Safc.

[TbTalon94]

Have to ask Seth (fwd2awd), he's got the tranny and x-fer case. It worked great for me since you rebuilt it.


Still works good I hope :)

[Drifte]

Anyone have a bead blaster in town?! If I end up having Slowride put this together I could take the case and get it blasted back to beautiful.

[TbTalon94]

I have one, don't think the tranny will fit in my case though.

[Drifte]

Ok, had some time today to think this over and get a more detailed parts list from Kevin.

2nd Gear $150
Cluster shaft w/ 3rd gear $200
5th gear sleeve $15
1-2 synchro hub slider $?
Bearing set $290.75!
Labor $275

Grand total. $1,097

Judging from the total the 1-2 synchro hub slider would be $166.

[krustindumm]

rainbow should be able to do it.

[slow ride]

I would almost prefer you to not blast it as the sand/media might be hard to clean out of all the cracks if it gets into the transmission. Others can build it, but don't know all the upgrades from year to year unless they are into(or were) DSM's. It's a 92' trans I believe so it would benifit from some upgraded parts in some areas. Those prices on parts are not that great. I can probably find some used gears, etc for way cheaper than that and I don't have a problem using used gears as they work out great and actually shift smoother.

Sorry Trev I forgot about the new car.