Drifte Talon Restoration

[TbTalon94]

Yea if my Evo's tranny ever needs work I'll call ya :)

[Drifte]

I'll remember you next time Slowride, as I can bet it wont be the last. This is a pricey repair, and Im excepting in hopes to get my transmission back the fastest.

[Drifte]

spec paint job sucks.
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2469/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32600277_9349.jpg
Clean transfer case fluid
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2469/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32600278_9772.jpg

I think I wish the transfer case had been the problem.

[slow ride]

I hope they used the updated dual cone 2nd gear. That is the ONLY way to go. Hell I had a standard early 2nd gear in the garage you could have had if thats what they used.

I probably could have found a fully built trans w/4 spider diff for about $1000 if I had checked into it.

OT Do you use a spec 3+ ? Just curious as that is what I have in the vette and wondering how it feels in a DSM.

[Drifte]

spec stage 3 (+ idk), 6puck sprung hub. It feels like stock in pedal pressure, but grabs very firmly. Between shifts it can be rough, but the clutch is known for its harsh engagement (later related to drive train problems from the shock).

Works fine for me.

[TbTalon94]

Regular spec 3. Loved that clutch. My brother has the spec 3+. Actually easier todive.

[Drifte]

Got my face airbrushed on my valve cover.
http://photos-f.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2419/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32603797_2926285.jpg

[Ricky]

did you get a new hair cut too?

[Drifte]

^ I dont, but since my only human contact uis via the internet, you guys would never know! photoshop wins again!

more wheel ideas. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
http://enjukuracing.com/images/Work%20CR%20KAI.JPG
white?
http://www.speedalliance.com/images/WORK_WHEELS/WORKEMOTION/CRKAI/0.70966200%201180352505_131.jpg

Im leaning towards a lighter color as it makes the car look completely different from a black wheel. I like both, but its a different look.

[lil krumm]

white FTW

[TbTalon94]

Those are the wheels I want...

[Drifte]

If either of us actually get them it would be awesome.

Some bad news. Kevin was hospitalized right after I talked to him about 2 weeks ago. He had meningitis, and currently is recovering. Its the 5th case this year alone and 3 others died. SO basically right after I said go ahead and order parts, he went to the ER (well, the following morning before he was to order). I'm thankful he's improving and can't obviously hold it against him. I have his number 2 man working on it now and getting the parts.

I was really looking forward to driving my car again, but it looks like it will be a bit longer.

Trans fluid:
AMS suggested fluid: 50/50 mix of BG Synchro and Redline Shockproof light. for a trans with mileage on it.
AMS, Shep: 50/50 mix of BG Synchro and Redline Shockproof heavy for a fresh trans .
TRE says DONT! http://www.teamrip.com/manual_transmiss ... _info.html (http://www.teamrip.com/manual_transmission_gear_oil_recommendation_info.h tml)
So maybe use redline mt-90 mix with shockproof light? idk

[Drifte]

Trans was supposed to be done early this week. Also was supposed to be done earlier the week before. As of today it still has not been touched. It is waiting for new parts still and "may" be finished next week.

I think we know where not to go if you NEED your car...

[Xboosted23X]

i know for my trans i ran 2 qts or heavy duty shockproof and 1qt of valvaline.
the stock evo fluid is supposed to be really good also.
i would just stick to what our trans builder said to run.

[Drifte]

Eh, update? Moved the car to the other garage, in the process it got muddy and tough lookin.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/Talon_3_09.jpg?t=1236984154
Missing something...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/talone_3_09.jpg?t=1236984402
Was going to put the bumper on and other stuff but it really wasnt that nice out.

[Luminatorz34]

youre upper radiator hose looks like it has a kink in it

[n8kerns]

Damn thats alot of intercooler piping lol...What kind of core is that I've never seen one like it for a 1g.

And damn do I miss having a clean 1g. My side panel is still laying in the garage. You've inspired me to go look for clips lol

[Drifte]

Intercooler is Apex-i GT, charge pipe too. Rad hose is ok, just a shadow. Been busy looking for a new car for the GF and havent had a chance to do much with it. Did clay bar and polish it though. I sat a bottle of windex on the hood and it slid off...so I must have done that right.

[krustindumm]

Good, I don't think its fair that normally you have such an easy time keeping your car clean.

[TbTalon94]

Colton do you want an intAke? I've got to order a few bends for a guy, I can order a few for you. Weld up a simple 3 or 4" Intake?

[s13kid]

Emotions would look awesome on that.

[Drifte]

yea we'll be needing to do an intake for Brianna's car as well. Both 3". In my case the 2gmaf we may want to flare to 4" or just use a coupler. We'll talk soon. May have to call though haven't been on the comp much lately.

[TbTalon94]

Well I may have a left over 4" bend...so when do you get your trans back?

[Drifte]

tomorrow I believe.

[96-eclipse-gst]

Whats wrong with the alero?

[Drifte]

nothing...now.
Trans now will be done tomorrow, wrong part came in.

[Drifte]

Kevin called this morning, my transmission is done. IDK whats more annoying, waiting 7 weeks for a basic rebuilding, or being told every week its going to be done, and its not.

[TbTalon94]

Well I do have a left over 4" bend.....

[Drifte]

O'reillys had a bottle of royal purple on the shelf for $10 so I grabbed it and asked if they had more. SO she went to the back and got me 3 more. I payed, $65 or something, and went on my way. Get home its the wrong weight except for the one I grabbed and its the wrong price. So trans is in, now I need to get some fluid and drive it. As of now the new trans feels really really notchy.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/trans2.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/trans_1.jpg

[lil krumm]

was it the stupid bitch with the mullet?!

[Drifte]

new trans leaks where the case comes together. lesson learned.

drove around a bit, still very notchy going into 2nd.

[Drifte]

New title...since its NOT a new build anymore. Oddly applying a little torque to the end case bolts the leak slowed. Got my stereo tuned and dialed in, needs a little bass help though.

[Drifte]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/Talon_100_fpr.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/Talon_101_engine.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/Talon_99.jpg

[krustindumm]

If you drive down 16th ave you can see it in Kevins lot.

[TbTalon94]

If you drive down 16th ave you can see it in Kevins lot.

Nothing like round 2

[Ricky]

it does move though! i rode in it last night going from the top of the drive way to the bottom! runs good though!

[Jappbox]

need a intake for sure!, looks clean though. Need to get that leak stoped, trans good.. and DSM link...o and a tune!

[96-eclipse-gst]

Colton, so is the tranny still fubar after the build? I would be very upset if I were you. Jenn's Altima was just in the body shop and today the undershields came flying off. I am going to raise hell, I suggest you do the same... if it's their fault.

[Drifte]

My tune right now is from the chip. After I get it all straightened out I can order my new gauges and start getting a finer tune. Trevor will be making my new intake, new air filter on the way. Its true what they say...I dont beat on it...65% throttle is considered a fun day for me.

My trans is fine, in fact its great. The seal didnt hold on the case in once spot, my only hope is that once fixing that they put royal purple oil back in. Thank god I didnt get that cocktail of a redline mix in, or I would be even more upset.

[TbTalon94]

**cleaned up**

Derek if you want to pull stuff like that do it in the Trash. Not here or anywhere else but the Trash.

[Ricky]

Update?

[Drifte]

Im in Cedar Falls waitin for ya^

[Ricky]

o yeah. i will be over at about 5pm, nothing going on tonight really so time is not a factor.

[Drifte]

So. I had to supply the new fluid, another $33 down the drain, and they couldnt figure out how to start the car. The alarm on or alarm off feature was to complicated. Then they managed unhook my maf from the intake so when my brother went to pick it up it wouldnt run.
End result....Just never go to kevins, I may make a thread just for it...maybe after I talk to him again tomorrow after I test drive it some more.

[Krumm]

yea i bet i looked like a tool tryin to drive that thing without the maf hooked up...

[slow ride]

You know I live in waterloo right? I hate to see you have these problems, but I told you so. For a $1000 I might have found you a built, 4 spider diff, dual cone synchro, etc box. Well at least I hope it holds up so you can get some time behind the wheel

[Drifte]

^ Yea. I only went this route thinking it would be quick and done right (atleast to OEM spec). But I too hope it holds up so I can finally drive the car, I know next time where to go.

[Drifte]

Have 200miles on the transmission now. I got home tonight and popped the hood, and my exhaust manifold was glowing rediculous. Now list o things to check:

Oil
ignition
Fuel

Tomorrow will run the timing light and check base timing, and check the oil. Looking for a new PDA to check fuel trims. And here is a pic of the new oil feed, opinions on routing? Maybe to restrictive this way? It didnt help oil pressure at all when switching it from the OFH to the head. The line is fairly lengthy and twisty...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/GEDC0108.jpg?t=1238381992
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/GEDC0109.jpg?t=1238381993

[Drifte]

I guess I do have an EGT gauge I could try to get hooked up...

[Xboosted23X]

i had this issue last week when my car was out. glowing orange. pretty impressive.
i am in the market for a new turbo and checking the head.

[Drifte]

hmm, plugs were solid white.

"i had this issue last week when my car was out. glowing orange. pretty impressive.
i am in the market for a new turbo and checking the head."

So you had a problem and it took out the turbo? Stock?

Did a boost leak test because I knew I had one. The bov wasnt seating fully because of a weld that stops the bolt. So i tried to grind a little off, and woops its through and a hole now. Tried to weld it and welder isnt working well so now I have a mess...jeeze.

[slow ride]

You guys know in closed loop (like on the highway) the car is running around 14.7 AFR to achieve good economy right? This tends to cause high EGT's even under light load. I'm thinking what you are seeing is just normal. I would see close to 800C in the manifold on the highway with a 16g depending on speed, etc, etc. A larger the turbine housings will tend to cool off these EGT's on big turbo cars due to less backpressure in the exhaust stream.

[Xboosted23X]

it was on my 60-1
my manifold and turbo were glowing. im sure i had some boost leaks. pry some big ones.
ive never seen it glow like that before. def dont think its normal

[Drifte]

Yea I understand some glow is normal. But usually I can watch it stop glowing withing a minute of parking and the car idling. In this case it did not and was glowing unusually bright. I cant find my egt probe/wire just the gauge :/.

I had been cruising at 55 for about an hour then theirs the 35ish zone the last 3 miles home where the car can really cool down. Thats why I was worried about the intense glow I had going on.

New question/concern. When my PDA does show up, will my fuel trim readings be accurate since I have this keydiver chip?

[CiViC-Wanted]

New question/concern. When my PDA does show up, will my fuel trim readings be accurate since I have this keydiver chip?

I would suspect that in a perfect world they should be in the Zero's just like on a normal car, because the switchs to injectors and airflow should even things out. Drop jeff a email, hes pretty quick about emailign people back.

[n8kerns]

I would suspect that in a perfect world they should be in the Zero's.

100% is perfect on 1g's, 0's are for 2nd gens =)
And depending on the air it may not be 100%, in the winter mine added fuel because the air is more dense. Haven't checked it recently, I'm scared to see that something is off lol =P

And yes they should read correctly, only thing that will need math to figure out is the airflow if you have the 2x karman option on your chip.

[Drifte]

PDA is shipping. Charge pipe has been modified, worked it over this weekend and have the BOV flange redone. FP intake was also stripped tonight and cleaned up. Filled my driveshaft carrier bearings with Polyurethane for a temporary repair. Boots on those were all torn and that somewhat explains the noises they make.

[TbTalon94]

So...where are the pictures then?

[Drifte]

Finished up the charge pipe today. Will reinstall tomorrow and have it running again.

Current plans for parts etc...

Rear discs/calipers/pads.
Drivers rear wheel bearing
IE: silicone radiator hoses
VR Speed factory: AEM UEGO ($218.11, w/ free 2 day shipping!)
STM: ProSport Boost gauge

Wish list:
Baer Big brakes for front
17x8 wheels
4" aluminum exhaust v-band to DP and muffler.
drive shaft :/
new cd player, screen died? wtf.

and it goes on for about a mile...

[Drifte]

http://importevolution.com/images/JMF_4.jpg
this would be sweet.

[n8kerns]

I got some EBC ultimax for my back brakes and they are the right part number according to EBC website but they dont fit and look nothing like the pads that came off.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i114/Mewtd/brakes.jpg
If yours look like that let me know I'll sell them cheap if ya want them.

[Jappbox]

4" exhaust? dont you mean 3".... you dont need 4" prob would lose power. 3" is good for 700hp

[Drifte]

Going by my turbo bible least restriction is the best answer, so bigger or none should make most power. we'll see what I learn in the time I have before I actually do it.

Nate, idk what ya have their. looks like they gave ya pads for the front though.

[TbTalon94]

3" Aluminum will do just fine colton. A 4" aluminum exhaust would just be asking to crush it hitting something. With your already low ground clearance 4" would be a disaster waiting to happen.


BTW...3" v-band aluminum exhaust is something i've been really wanting to do, and since there are 1-2 bends in your cat-back....lets do it :)

[Drifte]

yea it would have to be oval 4" to fit it.
def not hard to build exhaust for this car. I think I could sell the apex- i stuff too, to pay for it.

[Jappbox]

You would think less restriction makes more power, but its not true. Some of the top shops have tested this thery and inless your going to plan on making 700whp, you will "lose" power with a 4" exhaust.. sounds crazy yes i know, but there is alot of Tech and testing that has proved this. Stick with 3"

[Drifte]

pish posh they sell 6" at the 80 truckstop, Im gettin that. Even a 6" fat can looking muffler.

[Xboosted23X]

i was looking at starting the dp at 3 then going to a 3.5 for the rest.
you want to have the discharge size the same size as the piping then slowly increase your size to get proper airflow

good thread to shed some light
http://www.tantrumwerks.com/html/Split% ... theory.pdf (http://www.tantrumwerks.com/html/Split%20DP%20support%20theory.pdf)

[JacobS]

thats a good read^

[Drifte]

Well after a day struggling with the palm. Initial idle log (reading from the pda here, mac not so mmcd friendly.).

INJD .7%
TPS 10.5%
TIMA 1deg
RPM 900
INJP 2.0ms
FTRL 100%
FTRM 100%
FTRH 100%
FTO2 60.1%
WBO2 40

...timing was fluctuating from low negatives to low positives. I have the timing light on it, seems to be good 5 BTDC.

[TbTalon94]

you need to sit there awhile with your logger on. Your fuel trims haven't moved yet. The FT02 should fluctuate as it's adjusting the fuel to keep the fuel trims in check. They should be pretty close though being as you have a chip.

[Drifte]

ft02 was fluctuating. low was 59%. I cant load logs on here (mac osx). Im gonna go check base timing again...i never trust those things. Car was at operating temp when those numbers were read.

[TbTalon94]

ftlow should fluctuate..slightly

[Drifte]

got a clearer timing reading. My CAS has some strange wires on it, little to short to advance the timing to where it needs to be. For now its retarded a bit set closer to 0 degrees. Tomorrow I can take care of the base timing. Try some RTV on the BOV gasket as its just not wanting to seal. Blitz made it so the bolt threads into the aluminum bov...so I gotta be real careful torquing it down.

After all that I can log again and run it through someones PC and post that up so we can see how good that chip is.

[Ricky]

i have pc

[Drifte]

spent the weekend doing a few things. Pulled the interior and pressure washed my carpet, also removed all the backing from it. Its super clean now, looks brand new. Replaced the seats with OEM Black Leather. Also replaced the door serts with leather ones. Not perfect, but I have a friend in upholstery who can probably freshen it up for me. If it wasnt for the afc my interior would be stock appearing, kind of the goal.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/drifte/interior.jpg?t=1239644493

[Drifte]

anybody want to buy it?

[n8kerns]

Haha...I'm thinking about selling mine to =P May have a buyer but thats kinda funny.

[Ricky]

all that work and time and blood and you want to sell it? You know you will just buy another on and start all over. I say keep it for now and come back to it later.

[CiViC-Wanted]

Why get rid of the 1g, I think its the best looking style. Id rather have a 1g over a 2g any day

[Drifte]

I doubt I sell it, I just would like to have a little truck again so I have a useful vehicle. I suppose in time that will come. I cant remember if I posted this link or not but Uego for cheap here. http://vr-speed.com/store/uego-wideband ... p-508.html (http://vr-speed.com/store/uego-wideband-controller-gauge-p-508.html)

[Jappbox]

I would not sell it. Its very clean and now everything is allmost new in it. if you had a set of Cams, and say a DSM link. The thing would move out good!

[Drifte]

Well if its sticking around I think its going to need:

Power steering again ( I hate the clutter, but I enjoy effortlessly tossing the car around)

Drive shaft carrier bearings

AEM Uego

Boost gauge (trevor you have a couple dozen extra gauges...if you want to sell them. gauge whore)

[TbTalon94]

lol i'll sell you all my gauges. I'm not keeping them around for a reason.

[Drifte]

Sounds like I know someone with everything I need

Power steering- Brent
Ryan IE- AEM Uego
Trevor - boost gauge/gauges

now those carrier bearings are gonna be costly and a hassle.

[Luminatorz34]

i had a good set on the silver laser i got...gave it to bryan...might wanna check with him....i think he still has a 1g floating around the midst of all his audis

[Drifte]

I knew a guy that worked at Mitsubishi in Waterloo, but I cant get a hold of him for those carrier bearings. I have heard as low as $60 per bearing from dealerships with a discount. Otherwise its about $100 per bearing from Mach V.

[TbTalon94]

Mach V is expensive as hell

Check out JNZtuning, they sell OEM parts at very good prices.

[Sleeping]

Get hold me you should have my number and ill see what I can do for you

[Drifte]

Had some free time tonight;

VDO oil pressure, oil temp, and boost are mounted and wired in. (thanks Trevor)

AEM UEGO, bung welded in, wired...currently zip tied to steering column until i get a gauge pod. (thanks Import Evolution and Dustin for picking it up)

Lots of wiring work done with the rats nest of wires that was in their for the alarm. Hopefully I have that fixed as well...

maybe some pics tomorrow.

[Ricky]

didnt know you already picked up your wideband! i need to pick that up too!

[Drifte]

^ yea went to wire in my gauges today. Real simple power and ground, I wire it through the dimmer no big deal. But of course I have to work on that rats nest of wires. Well idk what happened, but nothing works and for a while their was some clicking, and a beeping, now nothing. I have to guess its related to the alarm. I disconnected my gauges anyway just to be sure. Haven't found a blown fuse anywhere either which is not cool either. I just got all the covers and junk back in when it stopped working. The gauges were working fine before hand.

so once my hand stops bleeding and I eat something I will be back out their under my dash.

uego isnt plugged in at all at the moment. Haven't decided where I want to power it from.

[Drifte]

Good news. I sorted out the alarm wiring. Its still locking and arming itself after sitting for a couple minutes. But I'll eventually get that sorted out too, good thing is it runs now and I can lock and unlock the doors.

[Drifte]

talked to Eric last night sleepingtsi94. Can get a pretty awesome deal on those carrier bearings. So once that drive shaft gets rebuilt...I'll be pretty set!

Have to figure out how im ordering those U-Joints. The best joints are the ones that come in the re-call kit with the yolk. May just order 3 of those and press 2 out. Not 100% sure on that yet. I hear the grease-able ones are weaker too.

[Drifte]

Girlfriend and I were out cruisin
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3348/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32748962_152271.jpg

[JustinS]

Saw those on facebook, she needs an evo!

[Drifte]

yea, weird I thought i stuck em both on here. Big plan is I get Evo X she gets new Ralliart
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3348/95/72/71802238/n71802238_32748963_2341421.jpg

[Ricky]

the new Ralliart's are turbo too... im guessing you new that though

[TbTalon94]

I've got some peices for her lancer :)

[Drifte]

If we get a change to travel this summer the lancer will be whats taking us. so reliable will be key with it. Needs a little height adjustment, tint, roof rack and sound system. Although she'd love a turbo, and rather only 1 turbo car to deal with.

[Drifte]

needs more boost. 10psi got really boring fast.

also need:

ALL new brakes. I want to run the baer bear claws up front but cant with my stupid 16's. 17's would work. Rear will get new calipers, probably should do soft lines, new pads and rotors. Would like to run drilled/slotted rotors but idk if its worth the extra money.

going to order through Mitsu; 3 drive shaft yolk recall parts with u-joints. press 2 out for the rest of the drive shaft, and order 2 new carrier bearings. I have to talk with Sadler yet but may be able to get the drive shaft replaced with a 2 piece unit. If not they will probably assemble everything and re-balance it.

[TbTalon94]

You should buy my Evo rims/tires, and i'll get something new :)

[96-eclipse-gst]

Are you going to be pressing out the u joints and everything by yourself or what? Got a little confused on what exactly your doing.

[Drifte]

I'd take the evo wheels. I wont do anything, I'll have this part done.

[96-eclipse-gst]

Atleast do the u joints. They are pretty damn easy. I could do them... Atleast let me look at them before you PAY someone to do it.

[Drifte]

Its going to be tore down, balanced and rebuilt. Wouldnt really make any sense for me to stop them, then pop the new u joints in myself. I have yet to even get a quote on it anyway.

[Ricky]

figured you would have an update....? care to share your fun weekend?

[Drifte]

Sure. Car was running great, had a little hiccup at one point. Then for no aparent reason it died. After a good bit of testing and trial and error we discovered the A-pexi SAFC went bad and causing the problems. After which the car drove better than ever before. The tune is really rich now so I just avoid full throttle.

The find goes to Ricky their, rummaging through the bare wires off the ECU to find the culprit. Good thing I have the AFC wiring stuck in my head too.

weekend was all good and fun before that.

[Drifte]

Still have had some issues. Seemed to run fine but the tach was getting a poor signal. Occasionally lagging or bouncing a little. I went ahead and switched out the CAS with a known good one and the coil pack transistor. I seem to have a bit of a stumble, but it may also be a boost leak. The roads I drive on are treacherous and tear my car apart.

On a good note I bought myself a birthday present.

[Ricky]

that bike is fun we put it through some tests.

[Xboosted23X]

trek bruiser huh.
do you ride alot?

[Drifte]

when I can, I like sugar bottom.

[Drifte]

Finally installed new brakes on the rear of the Talon.
Remanufactured calipers = $235
Core+ -$70
Ceramic pads= $45
Brake Fluid=$4.35
Brake clean=$3.29
Brake Rotors= $50

for a grand total of: $267.64

The price for parts on this car have gotten outrageous. But you cant put a price on stopping. The brakes that were on their appeared original and were completely junk. Completely frozen up and no pad left at all. Stopping should be a good bit different now. Next month I think it will get the Big Brakes up front, that should be a lot of fun.

Colton,

I had to put a rear brake hardwear kit on scarlet this weekend. Man what a PITA.

I was having all kinds of problems with the rear calipers. I dont remember them being that bad when I did the rear breaks last summer.

[Drifte]

Yea, I should have also mentioned most of the parts required heat to get apart. sheared off one bolt, had to drill it out and tap it. Really hate doing that, so I am searching for a good drivers rear caliper bracket.

[Drifte]

my little brake. Can only hope it stays this pretty. You can kinda tell the wheel well was stripped, undercoated and brushed gloss black. If you cant tell...then now ya know anyway. had a sweet boost leak, found a gouge in my lowest charge pipe coupler, swapped it out and noticed my bov leaks pressure out...?

Yeah I made a BLT tester today. Waiting on the glue to dry then I'm going to test it tomorrow. I know I have a leak due to the fact it acts like fuel cut around 6500 but I have dsmlink so no fuel cut.

I am willing to bet it's a coupler or BOV thats losing it all.

Oh the joys of a DSM

[Drifte]

I got a pretty sweet boost leak tester, I should take a pic of that.

Yeah you should!

I really dont like mine.

[TbTalon94]

Oh the joys of a MAF

fixed

[n8kerns]

Oh the joys of a MAF

fixed

haha, so true when it comes to boost leaks.

[krustindumm]

I got a pretty sweet boost leak tester, I should take a pic of that.

you mean mine?

[Drifte]

Negative.^

But on a good note. Big brakes are on their way. Pieced it together online to get it a lot cheaper. A dsm that stops...what will I do with myself. Think Im going to go the cheaper route with suspension and use AGX's and megan springs or eibach pro kit. Once the exhaust is done the car will appear to be a bone (bone...vague term, front mount kinda obvious) stock everday dsm.

Also recently read my lengthy start up may be due to some teflon tape off the FPR having gotten inside it. Will have to pull that off and have a look.

I have megan springs and have GR-2's struts. All was new a couple of months ago. So far so good. They dont ride like garbage and handle pretty well. Just make sure you get a camber kit for them. DME is like 54 bucks from Extremepsi.com

I used teflon tape on the return line on the AFPR and it leaked right away so I took it off and vola nothing, works like a charm.

[Drifte]

i have teflon tape on the gauge fitting only. Currently my car is slammed on some GR2's and broken goldline springs. I have adjustable rear upper control arms already. Plan to get cam bolts for the front and pull in some negative camber. If I get coil overs though its a whole new game. I had megan springs on gr2s and then on AGX's. Rode nice but far from "high performance."

[Drifte]

Weighed the Talon this afternoon in Iowa City. I had myself and a bunch of junk in their from a weekend trip. Weighed in at 3,040lbs. Thats a half tank of gas as well. So dry without my and my junk 2,800lbs or so. Not to bad for full interior. That leather is heavy stuff.

Some racing buckets, and aluminum gear should really lighten it up. Really need to get that drive shaft done up asap too.

[Drifte]

Painted my mirrors this evening. They were oxidized and in pretty bad shape. Not sure I like em black, but its better than what it was.
Before
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs139.snc1/5929_561642133219_71802238_32966317_3271260_n.jpg
After
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http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs139.snc1/5929_561641923639_71802238_32966316_1094693_n.jpg

[Xboosted23X]

mine are black. as far as i know they came that way. what year is your car

[Drifte]

92. Depends on year and model if your mirrors are color matched or black.

[Xboosted23X]

thats what mine is 92 tsi. it is an early 92 though

my 91's are black.

[TbTalon94]

My 92 GSX had black mirrors, but my 94 Talon ES had color matched...

I think they look good black.

[Drifte]

yea it seems almost random.
90 tsi had black
92tsi, 92tsi, 94es, 94es : all color matched
91 gsx color matched.
Better shot from this morning:
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs139.snc1/5929_561665032329_71802238_32967179_3513886_n.jpg

[TbTalon94]

You need my rims

[Drifte]

drop em off anytime ;)

[DustinsDuster]

why wouldnt you remove the mirrors to paint them?

[Drifte]

^ tried it before...WAAAAAY more work than it was worth.

[Drifte]

wiat, what wheels trevor?

[TbTalon94]

my Evo wheels.

[Drifte]

Ah I thought you ment the other ones, I thought you had sold. Theirs some 18's for cheap in the midwest a guy may ship to me. IDK if they will fit, but if not I figure someone around here may like em...I hope

[Drifte]

someone buy this bov...
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs139.snc1/5929_561641389709_71802238_32966293_7948826_n.jpg

[JustinS]

You need a smaller battery, it looks out of place since you removed just about everything else. : P

[Drifte]

Ya Im surrounded every day in awesome parts that should be on this car. But, I still need expensive drive shaft work done, set of wheels and tires too.

[Drifte]

Im thinking my engine bay should be black again...

Dude leave the engine bay alone. That is one serious clean engine bay.

Why are you venting your BOV?

anyways hope mine sells tomorrow.

[Drifte]

Its the only bov I had! Wanna buy it? The only BOV anyone seems to really have faith in is the Tial...and I just cant see myself running the Alpha Q. So idk what BOV I will run I just would like the ability to recirculate if I need.

What sells tomorrow?

My Talon is on ebay right now.

I have a spare 1g BOV laying around if you need it.

[Xboosted23X]

i will have a 1g also as soon as i put my tial on
PIMking do you not vent to the atmosphere for your bov

i need to clean up my engine bay but im keeping power steering

Unless you have a 3" gm mass air meter behind the BOV.

Our cars meters the air pre turbo so when you dont retun the air into the system your ecu dumps in fuel for the air the maf told it was getting.

So unless your maf is behind the BOV I would say no.

Your car should have a slight sluggish feeling right after you shift.

But really if your only in it for the sound then be my guest but the sound wont make you faster.

[Xboosted23X]

i do run a blow thru setup on my car.
i wasnt sure if you were running gm maft or not. i was pretty sure you were running link. correct?

I have dsmlink now yes.

V3 has the upgraded cables to run a 3" gm maf with out a maft

[Xboosted23X]

i have not upgraded to v3 yet. i am planning on it though at some point
i need to get my car running again so i can enjoy the summer some what.

[Drifte]

I have some old 1g's layin around. My FMIC and piping is actually for a 2g, just slightly modified to fit a 1g. And that pipe is made to work with either a Greddy or Blitz. I suppose I could re-flange it to run a 1g and recirc. I may just run a greddy rs again.

[TbTalon94]

man quit being gay and get a Tial...seriously.

[Drifte]

were getting in a Alpha Q to see how it looks. If its to bulky/gawdy...just plain huge I wont run it.

[Ricky]

were getting in a Alpha Q to see how it looks. If its to bulky/gawdy...just plain huge I wont run it.


awe men

[Drifte]

Drive shafts in. I still get noise when engine braking or some part throttle situations. Its driving me nuts. It almost sounds like the rear end is bad.
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs184.snc1/6129_562714598989_71802238_33015443_719503_n.jpg

[TbTalon94]

I get sounds too, it's usually the clutch/flywheel. Aluminum flywheels make a lot of noise. Just drive the thing and stop worrying lol.

[Ricky]

drive it hard too!

[Drifte]

had I not heard the tire screeching the Talon would be no more today. Narely missed being rear ended but a kid in a malibu this evening after work. Theirs really long black marks where he slammed on his brakes, I noticed and kept going and he still went around me on the shoulder.

stupid kids...

[Ricky]

yicks. Glad she is still around..... are you?

[Drifte]

I am here. Terrels Turbo car wash lets me down yet agian, this about the 5th time this summer. Either the soaps gone or the thing wont build pressure...always one or the other. SO today I "rinsed" my car off for 3 minutes. ...sweet.

at least its the cheapest car wash in ...well all of Iowa really.

[Ricky]

this is nuts....

411 replies


6422 views!

on a damn build thread.... this is epic for IAF

[Drifte]

yea hahaa, one more?
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs173.snc1/6489_564117747069_71802238_33068449_6293068_n.jpg

[Ricky]

i want to race you before it gone :( im sure you will beat me but it would be nice to know... im not back from utah till the 23rd though

[Drifte]

We could probably work out a pull here or their.

[Drifte]

have the car all cleaned up to take a bunch of pics for buyers...I like it when its all clean.

random pic.

[Jappbox]

selling it?

[Ricky]

yep

viewtopic.php?f=65&t=13410 (http://www.iowaautoforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=13410)

[Drifte]

It's for sale anyway. If any one will buy it; now thats a different story.

[Drifte]

New oem suspension is on the front, have the rear yet to do. Rides a lot better and has monster truck clearance. I dd it so function over fashion! I've finally found a set of splash guards and 6.5" speaker pods too.

[Drifte]

Boring update, splash guards in. Had a strange ignition problem. I went ahead and went over every wire. Now I have a misfire instead of just losing all ignition. Have to figure out now what thats about. I think I've narrowed it down to cylinder 1 mis and possible fuel issue. When I pulled the plugs a little smoke/steam came out of #1.

Could be your Power TR unit. or Coil. if 1 is the only one out than its probably your TR unit.

Now if 1 is out and 4 is out its your coil.

[Drifte]

none of them are completely out...My brother and I spent some time on it today. Spark is weak but exists. Seems to be getting fuel. Its running terrible and dies out, the intake is screaming too. Something strange going on, and Im losing patience. Actually I've lost patience, but who would buy the car not running now?!

[Drifte]

Logger doesnt show any errors. Physical timing is good. Injector wires are all good, spark plug wires are good and on correctly.

I feel Im over looking something obvious and simple.

[TbTalon94]

Open the ecu and make sure the Eprom chip didn't back-out a little bit.

[Drifte]

That was the first thing I checked. Not sure what Im going to do now.

[Jappbox]

what do your plugs look like? normal? if you had stem comoing out maybe you are geting a little coolent in there. Check the cylinders, if the pistions look brand new that could be a issue, would cause a miss for sure.

[krustindumm]

lol, the pistons SHOULD look brand new....how many miles are on that engine, like 200?

plugs look normal.

[TbTalon94]

How close did you look on the plugs, could have a crack in the porcelin. That'll make it mis-fire and you'll be chasing that forever lol.

Otherwise have you checked the regular, coil/cas/injector resistor/transistor/grounds

[krustindumm]

I never heard a missfire except when checking for spark. It just starts & dies. I'm thinking the MAF signal has to be messed up, it's the only thing that's not used at startup.

[TbTalon94]

So it starts, but just doesn't stay running?

Stumbles at all, or just starts then dies.

[krustindumm]

slows and dies, doesn't ever seem to miss. It gets rough, but only cause it's slowing down. Normally I'd start at the coolant temp sensor, but it's reading normal.

[Ricky]

I vote MAF i had mine tweaked a little after the Front Mount and the car ran like shit and died.

[Drifte]

Checked ECU, MAF, Ignition, Fuel. Im tempted to drop in the automatics ECU and see what happens....

At start up it is stumbling, but it revs up at start up to about 2,500 holds a bit then stumbles to a stop. ISC unhooked it runs a little longer, kind of like a choke.

Pistons all have some carbon build up. All readings are good at the logger, but its only a start up read to stall. So Im not looking at typical idle numbers to get a good reading.

I did watch timing closely starting at -5 to +25 and dieing back down with the stall. Plugs are clean, have about 3k on them. Each were tested and good. Resistance in the plug wires seemed high, but I still sustained even spark so I can keep those.

Have tried 2 coil packs, 2 Power TR's. May try TPS for the hell of it.

[Jappbox]

if you hold the gas a bit will it stay alive, or does it still stumble and die?

[Drifte]

yea it seems to keep it running with some gas.

[Xboosted23X]

mine was breaking up around 4500 switched out coil packs, tr box, plugs, wires, and the winner was a cas. and it was pig rich.
and then some other things came up that im not happy about

[Drifte]

Some landscaper friends of mine tell me you have been having a bit to much fun on your block anyway.

I can try another CAS, this one WAS fine but I have 2 more I can try.

[Xboosted23X]

o really. well i wont be having fun for a while my block is DONE

[Drifte]

ouch, need a 7bolt?

[Xboosted23X]

6 bolt. lmk if you have one or i might part it out not sure

[Drifte]

This car is for sale too...Has a nice 6 bolt in it.

[Xboosted23X]

yeah i just need the bottem end if i keep it. a evo sounds pretty tempting though

[Drifte]

Check Mitsubishi Graveyard and with SBR. I heard what happened. I'll get you a bottle of loctite for christmas...I know what you really need is a torque wrench, but I cant front that bill.

[Xboosted23X]

i have a nice tq wrench. i dont know how it came out. its not on my daily check list of things to check before i drive maybe it should be.
looks like a block and crank are coming my way. might be back out this year

[Drifte]

Little update. ECU is clean, all opinions of it are it is good but its untested. Wiring all appears good.

Prince is on the radio and I've lost all ability to function...crap drives me crazy!

what about your CAS?

[Drifte]

Was going to try another one tonight but didnt get to it. Went over the wiring again (just to be sure) and will keep tooling away. Put some new Viton o-rings on the injectors tonight too, shouldnt matter, but I was in their anyway.

[Clinical]

Keep it up man - don't give up on her - I know it's easy for me to say :P

Your car is one of the nicest around and always has been one of my favorites on here even though I've never seen it in person or anything.

[Xboosted23X]

i would try the cas. if you need any parts my part out will be in full effect.

[Drifte]

Well. You guys know as much as myself at this point, so when it started and ran fine today I didnt (and still dont) know what to think!

[TbTalon94]

Good ol DSMs!

[oVa-Boost]

thats weird must not want to go to a new owner......

[Drifte]

My girlfriend has always though the talon was a Attention whore of a bitch...I'd say shes pretty much correct.

she also says she (the talon) has me whipped. Every time I shift you hear the whip crack ;)

[Drifte]

The strange issue has been solved! Last time it died on me the last thing I did before it started running again was take the ecu apart and put it back in. Sent the ECU off to ECMlink for testing, and sure enough (as i had suspected) the chip socket had a lose connection. The Socket is being replaced with a new one and getting soldered in.

Its still for sale, Im looking at big slow vehicles to drive now. Also has new struts in the front, and new front wheel bearing. I have a rear wheel bearing to install yet, along with the larger 2 piston brakes up front.

[Krumm]

you dont even know what big and slow is like, you'll want to kill yourself everyday.

[Drifte]

Haha I drive a big 4x4 when the talons down for upgrades. So I get a taste of slow and it's boring but reliable.

[Clinical]

How about small and slow?
Have you ever seen the acceleration of the 1.8L DSM's?

[Drifte]

A fellow mechanic once had a 1.8l and he had 3" exhaust put on it (because I had it...). It was a sweet ride. I cant say I ever first hand experienced its acceleration.

[Ricky]

3 inch on a N/A 1.8? Did it get slower but sound faster?

[Clinical]

I would like to get a 2.5" exhaust on my laser but I'd feel like a ricer.

Honestly for some reason I LOVE the sound of the 1.8L - it's like the sound of a 2.0L but more even/smoother sounding. I drove one with an exhaust once and it sounded great.

But again I'd feel like a ricer. My timed 0-60 is 11 seconds :(

[Drifte]

My 25-60 is about 7seconds, using 3rd gear. Im probably the only person that would measure such a strange thing, but im usually in 3rd so i was curious.

and eric, to say it got faster or slower i have nooooooooooo idea. It simply seemed louder. lol

[TbTalon94]

Need a dump tube lol. Vband is king though

[Drifte]

It's kinda funny how my wastegate spring change, went to new wastegate, to v-band wastegate, to all new turbo gaskets which then led to helecoiling the turbo. And so yea, now I need a dump tube. I have some pics to upload. Whats the fastest way to get pics off an iphone?

[TbTalon94]

Plug it into the computer, go to MyComputer and it should be there. Open it up and all of them are right there. On a mac....idk,YET lol.

[Ricky]

It's kinda funny how my wastegate spring change, went to new wastegate, to v-band wastegate, to all new turbo gaskets which then led to helecoiling the turbo. And so yea, now I need a dump tube. I have some pics to upload. Whats the fastest way to get pics off an iphone?


could email it to yourself and then you can pull it off any comp

[Drifte]

some pics

[Drifte]

Work is going slowly on this staying busy with other things. Some progress pics though:

[TbTalon94]

Ah very nice. I would say please let me weld it, but the other welds on the o2 housing aren't that great anyway.

Quite a short tube!

[krustindumm]

yeah, you need to have that merge a little further away.

[Ricky]

it doesnt look like he can make it longer...

[TbTalon94]

We all know colton isn't exactly going for a HP record here.

[Drifte]

This is my minus 10 horsepower mod. However, we had some warpage issues. Thought we could fix it but the little sucker is leaking pre wastegate at the valve seat. Not good. But here it is assembled and on the car.

[Drifte]

yeah, you need to have that merge a little further away.

Merge any closer and it makes getting a wrench on the dp bolts more difficult. I like to have fun in my car, and every time I'd open up the wastegate before I'd have to make sure their weren't cops around for a couple miles. Ofcourse I am going to have to figure out a way to pull the gate in tighter before its any use. I think I'll bring the car to op temp and torque on that v-band... :banghead:

[Drifte]

found this old vid.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Usrsonic#p/u/3/vvlDrEgJ0-4

[Clinical]

man, I wish I had a place like that to work in. This winter's going to suck with our tiny garage 1 2/3 car garage trying to work on it with 2 cars in the garage. I say 1 2/3 because it is hardly a 2 car garage. Both cars have to be small-medium or one has to be really small if the other is large. My firebird really pushed it.

I'd make a video like that through the winter but nothing looks wise would change a whole lot haha, just the head / tranny coming out.

[AutoMods]

your suppose to have the track passes at the end of the video to show us the end result