IAF Firearms thread

[AutoMods]

Had a friend home from the Marines and shot some handguns in my parents back yard.
Little bit of everything, few XDs, some Glocks, a Walther and a couple Sigs. No Hi-Points, only quality firearms allowed.
The yard sparkled with brass. Its was beautiful.

i was going to let it die but you had to bring it up again. next time you want to do some real testing, I will send you my hi-point

[sparkles]

Don't bother. Send it to the trash can.

[85XR7Project]

Don't bother. Send it to the trash can.

X2 it'd be a waste of time.

[RandomHero]

Don't bother. Send it to the trash can.

Like

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Like

You guys are the worst. We're all about recycling these days. Wipe it down, put some duct tape on the handgrips, drop it off in the middle of the park on the SE side between the used needles and discarded pairs of pants.

[RandomHero]

You guys are the worst. We're all about recycling these days. Wipe it down, put some duct tape on the handgrips, drop it off in the middle of the park on the SE side between the used needles and discarded pairs of pants.
Like.....more

[AutoMods]

i'd at least give it to xr7 before throwing it away. make a great first handgun for him.

[RandomHero]

i'd at least give it to xr7 before throwing it away. make a great first handgun for him.
Why, so he can end up like Buster Bluth?
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/buster-im-a-monster.gif

[derek072887]

I have a Raven MP25 id put up against any of your shit.

[85XR7Project]

i'd at least give it to xr7 before throwing it away. make a great first handgun for him.

I may not have a handgun but that doesn't make me retarded when it comes to firearms. Keep it.


I have a Raven MP25 id put up against any of your shit.

You mean your step dad does?

[RandomHero]

I have a Raven MP25 id put up against any of your shit.
I will take that bet. The Raven looks like a semi auto version of a Derringer. So unless your target is a zepplin, you dont stand a chance.

Side note: Does you're step know your playing with his guns or did you just go out and purchase the cheapest piece you could find so you could fit in on the conversation?

[AutoMods]

I may not have a handgun but that doesn't make me retarded when it comes to firearms. Keep it.

some thug is going to be hiding in your house around a corner and he's going to grab that long rifle of yours and knock you out. I'll tell you what, for home protection you can borrow one of my hi-points for free until you save up for a nicer handgun .

[derek072887]

I will take that bet. The Raven looks like a semi auto version of a Derringer. So unless your target is a zepplin, you dont stand a chance.

Side note: Does you're step know your playing with his guns or did you just go out and purchase the cheapest piece you could find so you could fit in on the conversation?

Where is a dead horse when you need to beat one.... It was a joke, I do have a Raven MP25 somewhere, honestly don't even know where it is from when I moved into my current house... prolly in the garage in a box.

Side Note: If you were such a gun Guru like you are claiming you would know that the Raven is actually a direct ancestor to the Hi-Point ;)

[sparkles]

I may not have a handgun but that doesn't make me retarded when it comes to firearms. Keep it.


some thug is going to be hiding in your house around a corner and he's going to grab that long rifle of yours and knock you out. I'll tell you what, for home protection you can borrow one of my hi-points for free until you save up for a nicer handgun .

Why can't you admit you have a giant piece of poopy? You talk it up like your talking to people that don't know anything about firearms. It's junk man. Admit it. We're all guilty at one point in time. Even me and my Jennings .380 It's ok man. Let it out.

Say it with me:
"Yes, I have a gay gun, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'M gay".

There, doesn't that feel better?

[RandomHero]

Where is a dead horse when you need to beat one.... It was a joke, I do have a Raven MP25 somewhere, honestly don't even know where it is from when I moved into my current house... prolly in the garage in a box.

Side Note: If you were such a gun Guru like you are claiming you would know that the Raven is actually a direct ancestor to the Hi-Point ;)

I never claimed I was a guru, just an informed enthusiast.
Also you are not doing yourself any justice stating you "actually" own a firearm, but have misplaced it.
It doesnt matter what kind of quality the gun is, an XD, Glock, Desert Eagle, Hi-Point, etc, a firearm is still a firearm and should handled with responsibility, not neglect as you are protraying to us.

[derek072887]

I never claimed I was a guru, just an informed enthusiast.
Also you are not doing yourself any justice stating you "actually" own a firearm, but have misplaced it.
It doesnt matter what kind of quality the gun is, an XD, Glock, Desert Eagle, Hi-Point, etc, a firearm is still a firearm and should handled with responsibility, not neglect as you are protraying to us.

Its in a cute zip up padded holder thingy, is that better?

[JacobS]

im seriously laughing out loud and how many people dont get that ryan and derek are fucking around....

[85XR7Project]

some thug is going to be hiding in your house around a corner and he's going to grab that long rifle of yours and knock you out.

He will have a hard time getting into my gun safe.


the Raven is actually a direct ancestor to the Hi-Point ;)

How do you figure? Yes they look similar but I see no tie.

[derek072887]

He will have a hard time getting into my gun safe.



How do you figure? Yes they look similar but I see no tie.

Meaning they are both the cheap junk of their time.....
(Sarcasm is minimal with this group I see)

[sparkles]

im seriously laughing out loud and how many people dont get that ryan and derek are fucking around....
I'm betting that deep down, they're not.

[JacobS]

youre betting wrong.

[AutoMods]

He will have a hard time getting into my gun safe.

so your giving me a hard time for using a hi-point for self protection and you don't have a gun quickly accessible in your house ?

[85XR7Project]

Yes I do but I don't advertise where it is. That would be fucking retarded.

[Drifte]

14 PAGES AND NOT ONE PERSON? OK, I'll say it.

"anybody want tickets to the gun show?"

[SaNdMaNsSi]

I may not have a handgun but that doesn't make me retarded when it comes to firearms. Keep it.



You mean your step dad does?

This.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

I will take that bet. The Raven looks like a semi auto version of a Derringer. So unless your target is a zepplin, you dont stand a chance.

Side note: Does you're step know your playing with his guns or did you just go out and purchase the cheapest piece you could find so you could fit in on the conversation?


Haha. And...This.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

I never claimed I was a guru, just an informed enthusiast.
Also you are not doing yourself any justice stating you "actually" own a firearm, but have misplaced it.
It doesnt matter what kind of quality the gun is, an XD, Glock, Desert Eagle, Hi-Point, etc, a firearm is still a firearm and should handled with responsibility, not neglect as you are protraying to us.


I have a WWII Piat...I misplaced it somewhere when I moved out of my condo to my house...but it's okay, I welded a kickstand to it, so I know it's somewhere in the garage or basement, and not necessarily in a box.

[derek072887]

This.

You are my favorite hater, much love bro.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

You are my favorite hater, much love bro.

Tease.

[sparkles]

I think you 2 should just make out already. You need a new sig too man. Derek doesn't even pretend own that car anymore. Now he's moved onto cars of legendary supercar status.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

I think you 2 should just make out already. You need a new sig too man. Derek doesn't even pretend own that car anymore. Now he's moved onto cars of legendary supercar status.

Only if you're in on the 3some. I haven't checked my sig in years....but thanks for the reminder.

[RandomHero]

im seriously laughing out loud and how many people dont get that ryan and derek are fucking around....
Quiet boy. I have helped terd stir this thread 3 more pages. I'm good for business.

[SledgeWS6]

Just to stir the pot:

True or False: People who feel the need to open carry EVERYWHERE are trying to compensate for something. (Example: Going to a friend's house with no stops on the way and then proceeding to continue to carry while in said friend's house who is also armed to the brim)

[Drifte]

Just to stir the pot:

True or False: People who feel the need to open carry EVERYWHERE are trying to compensate for something. (Example: Going to a friend's house with no stops on the way and then proceeding to continue to carry while in said friend's house who is also armed to the brim)

true

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I don't OC unless I'm hunting generally...but ill.conceal just about everywhere but work and partying...I carry into friends houses all the time, not worth the inconvenience of pulling my holster and worrying about my firearm sitting in a car or something...generally I have found that the people who make compensation theories are indeed compensating themselves...

[SledgeWS6]

...generally I have found that the people who make compensation theories are indeed compensating themselves...

I usually don't, but a guy brought his to the gym last night and lets just say that his ability to bench press anything beyond the bar was purely questionable.

I think you know where my politics stand on this issue and where my allegiances are so baiting me into whether or not I'm compensating myself is intellectual dishonesty at its best.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

I don't really care if people open carry or not, it doesn't raise a bit of fear in me. I do, however, find the people that say people are "compensating for something" by owning guns to be the fearful ones. They are too scared to handle a firearm themselves, so they think they can dictate to others what they should or should not be able to do in an effort to minimize their own fear without being forced to admit it. When I see someone open carry, I don't get freaked out and cry like a little girl about it or start name calling to make myself feel better. I certainly notice those people and keep a closer eye on where that gun is moving around the room, but it stops at that. When I carry, it's always concealed. No reason to make a big scene. However, I carry a big firearm. I'm also a taller guy, so sometimes when I'm working on something, or reaching high, my shirt tends to come up and drop over the firearm and I find it sticking out into the open. I don't make a scene, I make sure to conceal it again and apologize to the liberal quickly dialing 911 and the National Guard. I never really base my decision on where to carry, I just put it on sometimes when I walk out of the house whether I'm going to the bank or the grocery store. Other times I leave it at home.
When I go to the gym, it's usually after other errands, or I still have my firearm on me. Since I go to the MAC, and all they have is cubbies, I always put the safety on, remove the round in the chamber, and take my magazine out. I then make sure my firearm is hidden under all of my clothing. To keep it strapped on you while you are working out is idiotic and just showing off. Not to mention, with the kind of movements you make while working out, rolling onto your hip or putting pressure on a trigger wouldn't be terribly hard to do. That person is a moron, and is just hoping someone is paying attention to them. I'm sorry, the gym is already full of tough guys. No one is impressed by showing off your firearm.
I could leave my weapon in my car, sure. Sometimes I do. It usually depends on what I'm driving. If I'm driving one of my Hondas, I sometimes leave it behind. If I'm driving my Wrangler, I don't think those doors have been locked or unlocked since 1988, so there's no way of securing it.
Long story short, people need to get over themselves. The more people that carry open or otherwise, the more people in general will get desensitized to seeing a firearm and will quit bellyaching so much about me. My theory in life is if you don't like something, don't do it; but don't think you have any ground to stand on telling someone else what they can and can't do. I'm not about to stick my tongue down a guy's throat, but I could really care less if anyone else finds the need to. Unless Sparkles switches teams, then I'm down.

[Sleepy]

I'm not about to stick my tongue down a guy's throat, but I could really care less if anyone else finds the need to. Unless Sparkles switches teams, then I'm down.

Win

On a serious note, that was a great post.


Fifty or Sandman do either of you have children?

I do not have a ccw, would like to get one however the wife is quite opposed due to our three kids.
Obviously you would teach them that it is not a toy and do not handle until they are old enough to do so.
Just curious to see if it makes or would make any difference in your handling.

[Sleepy]

Also, has anyone seen the Oil Filter Suppressor/Silencer?
Pretty funny
http://youtu.be/haiqFcIXTqs

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Win

On a serious note, that was a great post.


Fifty or Sandman do either of you have children?

I do not have a ccw, would like to get one however the wife is quite opposed due to our three kids.
Obviously you would teach them that it is not a toy and do not handle until they are old enough to do so.
Just curious to see if it makes or would make any difference in your handling.

No, I don't have kids....never really wanted any. It would definitely change how I handle firearms in the home, and probably where and when I'd carry. I'd probably get a smaller firearm for carry, or not carry at all. My house isn't exactly conducive to children anyways. Most of my decorating consists of things from the early 30's thru 50's, large, heavy awkward items that can be knocked over easily. Lots of fragile stuff. Also, I tend to leave my firearms all over the place. Since I have an alarm system, I'm not worried about them. I keep the ammo locked up, but the guns not always. My handguns and Tec-9 never see the light of day, but my long guns are either in unlocked gun cases in a closet, or laying on the kitchen table, behind a door, sitting on the coffee table, etc. So yes, if I had children around, my firearm care would be significantly different. As it sits now, whenever I get around to picking them up and putting them away after cleaning is when they are safely out of reach.

[AutoMods]

Win

Fifty or Sandman do either of you have children?

I do not have a ccw, would like to get one however the wife is quite opposed due to our three kids.
Obviously you would teach them that it is not a toy and do not handle until they are old enough to do so.
Just curious to see if it makes or would make any difference in your handling.


sandman is too much of a man to watch sandra bullock movies let alone dora the explorer

just get your ccw just in case , doesn't mean you have to carry. I only carry at the shootout because I know george and fifdy will be packing

[SaNdMaNsSi]

sandman is too much of a man to watch sandra bullock movies let alone dora the explorer

just get your ccw just in case , doesn't mean you have to carry. I only carry at the shootout because I know george and fifdy will be packing

I'm so much man that women grow penises walking by me.

[JacobS]

hahahahahaha classic....

[Sleepy]

That's awesome

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I don't have kids either, and I agree with much of what sandman said, although I would be given even more of a reason to carry in order to protect my family

[sparkles]

I carry pretty much anytime I'm not home, unless I'm going to be drinking or going to a drinking type establishment or casino, although, I have carried there before as well. Never openly carried, but I don't see the big problem. I probably would, if people weren't such Nancies about it. It would be nice if there was a day that it wasn't such a big deal, but we all know that won't happen.

So yeah, pretty much, if you see me, I'm armed. Including the shootout. I was afraid of EddyB as well.

[AutoMods]

lets say you guys get into a fist fight and you are losing the battle, do you pull the gun card ?

[sparkles]

Is my life in danger?

[AutoMods]

Is my life in danger?

lets say someone has you in a rear naked choke and your going to pass out soon. you don't know the guy very well so you have no idea if he will let go after you pass out. what do you do?

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Do you mean if a guy is at your rear, naked, and choking you? Ryan I think things are getting a little crazy out your way..

[Sleepy]

Do you mean if a guy is at your rear, naked, and choking you? Ryan I think things are getting a little crazy out your way..

:biglaugh:

Ryan I would think that would clasify as life threatening. I mean if you were alone and had no one to help, thats pretty much what you described.

Whats the saying, don't pull a gun unless you intend on using it?

[LT1Dan]

http://summitgunbroker.com/22c-pd-marked.html

Thought this was interesting. I didn't know CRPD marked their guns like this. Not a bad price either.

[AutoMods]

Do you mean if a guy is at your rear, naked, and choking you? Ryan I think things are getting a little crazy out your way..



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn8Jrx6XKzU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn8Jrx6XKzU

[sparkles]

:biglaugh:

Ryan I would think that would clasify as life threatening. I mean if you were alone and had no one to help, thats pretty much what you described.

Whats the saying, don't pull a gun unless you intend on using it?
^This

If it was some random thing, most definitely.
If you decide you want to let out your inner feelings, rip your cloths off, and get behind me...well, I'll probably just pistol whip you.

Maybe be a little more descriptive about what would lead up to my choking other than you wanting to hump my ass.

[AutoMods]

http://summitgunbroker.com/22c-pd-marked.html

Thought this was interesting. I didn't know CRPD marked their guns like this. Not a bad price either.

that's pretty cool, if a cop found you carrying that gun around here would they run some checks on that?

[85XR7Project]

http://summitgunbroker.com/22c-pd-marked.html

Thought this was interesting. I didn't know CRPD marked their guns like this. Not a bad price either.

Look at assorted handguns, looks like Ryan's paradise...

[SledgeWS6]

lets say someone has you in a rear naked choke and your going to pass out soon. you don't know the guy very well so you have no idea if he will let go after you pass out. what do you do?

I would classify that as reasonable force in that situation and if it was my courtroom, he would be protected under this doctrine:
http://search.legis.state.ia.us/NXT/gateway.dll/ic/1/13/25874/25875/26018/26019?f=templates$fn=default.htm$q=[field%20%20704.1]$x=Advanced#LPHit1

[AutoMods]

you guys finding ammo out of stock around here or not really a problem? i was able to get a couple boxes of American Eagle 9mm today at the little hardware store in town for $16.50 for 50 rounds so i haven't checked anywhere else. but I hear some people online complaining

[SaNdMaNsSi]

I have an inside source, so I haven't had any problem. Actually, I've been buying it and selling it from a local gun dealer friend. I even have .223 zombie ammo.... But I see plenty of gougers out there, so even though I'm paying retail, (pre Democrat scare) I wouldnt pay a penny of the gouger prices. And, my memory is quite long; any gun dealer/shop in the area gouging will never get my business again. (I'm looking at you, 16th ave gun shop).

[LT1Dan]

you guys finding ammo out of stock around here or not really a problem? i was able to get a couple boxes of American Eagle 9mm today at the little hardware store in town for $16.50 for 50 rounds so i haven't checked anywhere else. but I hear some people online complaining

I haven't been actively seeking it out but I bought some Winchester .40 cal from Walmart a couple weeks. Don't remember the exact price but it didn't seem out of line with what I remembered paying and they had several boxes.

[WhiteHemi345]

you guys finding ammo out of stock around here or not really a problem? i was able to get a couple boxes of American Eagle 9mm today at the little hardware store in town for $16.50 for 50 rounds so i haven't checked anywhere else. but I hear some people online complaining

been wanting to go out and burn some through my .22 but i havent been out to look for ammo since before deer season. I usually get mine at theisens in coralville and they usually are stocked up on everything from .22-12 gauge.

[AutoMods]

walmart in corallville. all 9mm brands out of stock as well as many others .


http://automods.com/temp/iaf/walmart_ammo.jpg

[85XR7Project]

Got this the other day and decided to share...

Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.


RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.


FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.


Remington-Maxed out!


Armalite: Maxed out.


DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.


COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.


LWRC:Making only black guns, running at full capacity... can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels.


Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.


AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nationwide shortage of allcalibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of


1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.


MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.


RELOADERS... ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammoFIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things


get caught up.

[SledgeWS6]

walmart in corallville. all 9mm brands out of stock as well as many others .


http://automods.com/temp/iaf/walmart_ammo.jpg

I thought Walmart was done selling Ammo and Guns to comply with those crazy libtards.

[AutoMods]

I thought Walmart was done selling Ammo and Guns to comply with those crazy libtards.

that was a made up rumor, walmart made a public statement denying it.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Liberals hate anyone with money. The only thing they hate more than people having guns is multibillion dollar corporations that they believe should redistribute the wealth to the less inclined to work hard.

[WhiteHemi345]

walmart in corallville. all 9mm brands out of stock as well as many others .


http://automods.com/temp/iaf/walmart_ammo.jpg

if you're really in a pinch...take the fam along to get yer shells.

[AutoMods]

i'm tired of getting made fun of for my hi-point. what a good cheap 9mm that is up to your guy's standards ?

[Drifte]

Mines way cheap Ryan, but even cheaper if you buy used. Glock and SA were cheap to get second hand at gun shows. IDK what prices are like these days. I picked up 2k rounds of Aguilla 9mm rounds before shit hit the fan. Paid a lot less than what you would for buying a box of 50 at a time. If anyone needed some let me know.

[sparkles]

Some of the Walther's. CZ75 if you can find one. Glock. SAXD.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Kimber Carry with lazer grips...

[sparkles]

That's not exactly cheap.

[RandomHero]

i'm tired of getting made fun of for my hi-point. what a good cheap 9mm that is up to your guy's standards ?
Colt and I both have original XD Sub Compact 9mm. We bought ours new for cheap. Probably not quite double what you paid for your Hi-Point.

[85XR7Project]

Some of the Walther's. CZ75 if you can find one. Glock. SAXD.

The Tangfolio EAA Witness is based on the CZ75 and is very reasonably priced. I'm looking at getting one myself.

[z28z34man]

I liked my old Taurus pt92 it's a bit big to carry but is very reliable and has high cap mags, but I have a thing for all metal sada hammer fired weapons..

[AutoMods]

probably not going to carry it, just have for home protection and the occasional goofing off at the shooting range . high capacity would be fun

[SaNdMaNsSi]

probably not going to carry it, just have for home protection and the occasional goofing off at the shooting range . high capacity would be fun

tec-9

[AutoMods]

tec-9

Looking for something that never jams.

[85XR7Project]

Looking for something that never jams.

You could get a Hi Point.








































Lol, couldn't resist.

[AutoMods]

how about the s&w sd9 ve, 16+1 $379 retail ? http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_811049_-1_757962_757752_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I always like the Smith and wesson m&p hanguns...heard great things about then and they aren't crazy expensive

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Looking for something that never jams.

All guns will probably jam at some point...That being said, my tec-9 has had 1 jam in it's entire life. It's all about gun care. Tec-9 unreliability is a ghetto myth, and is because "gangstas" don't clean their weapons. Also, when buying one used, more often than not, they were previously owned by a self proclaimed thug who didn't take care of it. I bought mine brand new a couple of years ago from a guy that bought it and never fired it....Like I said, 1 jam in the hundreds of rounds that have been through it. Not as accurate as some guns, but just as reliable as most. Also, you mentioned hi-cap. My Kimber is nice, but nothing replaces a 7 round mag like a 50 round.

[sparkles]

how about the s&w sd9 ve, 16+1 $379 retail ? http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_811049_-1_757962_757752_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
I don't want to be the "my buddy has one and he said" guy, but I do and he had mediocre thoughts on it when he first got it. He had to send it back for some feed problem it was having. They sent him a new one back, so whatever it was must have not been fixable. They took care of him good though. At that price, if it were me, I'd look into a used Glock myself, but I'm just not a big fan of S&W semi autos, although I do have a 22A.

You opposed to a revolver? I'm very happy with the SP101 I just bought except for the grips. Balanced. Well machined. Smooth. Great gun.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I've got a 22a as well

[sparkles]

I put a red dot on mine. Bought it brand new for $175. It's the most accurate shooting cheap pile of crap I have. I love it. I can knock a 9mm case off of a stick at 30yds.

[85XR7Project]

At that price, if it were me, I'd look into a used Glock myself, but I'm just not a big fan of S&W semi autos

The Sigma was the handgun Glock sued S&W over because internally it was pretty much identical to a Glock. I will say the trigger is stupid heavy but they are pretty accurate and shoot nicely. I liked shooting it but I wouldn't personally buy one as I dont like trigger safeties.

[sparkles]

Yeah, I remember him bitching about the trigger pull on it too. I personally never shot it, but I know he wasn't a fan.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I recent did a trigger job and spring kit on my xds and it made a decent difference in accuracy...I've also got a red dot on my 22a haha...cheapo but it shoots great

[sparkles]

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk276/ericksonb06/Guns/DSC_3302.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk276/ericksonb06/Guns/DSC_3321-1.jpg

[Sleepy]

I recent did a trigger job and spring kit on my xds and it made a decent difference in accuracy...I've also got a red dot on my 22a haha...cheapo but it shoots great

How "involved" was the trigger job? Not that I have any complaints about mine however smoother is always better.

Ben I wish the xd could have a reddot like that 22a.

[85XR7Project]

Yeah, I remember him bitching about the trigger pull on it too. I personally never shot it, but I know he wasn't a fan.

I know there is a double spring set in the trigger group and by removing one of those springs you can cut the pull weight about in half. Like I said, its not a terrible handgun by any means. It IS fairly accurate and handles fairly well. When I took my buddy out with it he asked if I'd like to shoot his Sigma, not being one to turn down a chance at a different firearm I took him up on it. At 25 yds I was making him look VERY bad and pissed him off quite a bit so I ended up working with him on shooting all darn day. Honestly though if price was an issue the Ruger line (P95, M&P, LC9) are all pretty good and the price is reasonable not to mention I hear their customer service is pretty good as well.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Sleepy, it was definitely trickier then I had anticipated, I pretty much had to take the gun apart entirely...whole different ballpark than the usual Ar trigger jobs I've been doing

[AutoMods]

thanks for all the suggestions, i'll have to digest all that. yes a revolver would probably do the job, i saw some of the nice speed loaders they have for them now

[JustaGT]

+1 for Smith and Wesson M&P's. I've had my M&P 40 pro series for a few years now and love it. very reliable, deadly accurate, and not to over the top on price.

[Sleepy]

Fifdy, yeah sounds like something I would rather not tackle then. I do like the laser guide that Ben has on his. Pretty slick.

[AutoMods]

Honestly though if price was an issue the Ruger line (P95, M&P, LC9) are all pretty good and the price is reasonable not to mention I hear their customer service is pretty good as well.

Thanks Cougar boy, I got myself a p95 yesterday. $320 at scheels . Scheels had a few new ones in stock. They were out of all 9mm target ammo. Came with 2 * 15 round magazines, case, speed loader, lock . Feels pretty solid and smooth. can't wait to try it out. hopefully the swisher shooting range is open despite that accident. stop calling me hi-point boy now

http://automods.com/temp/iaf/ruger_p95.jpg

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Congrats on your first real gun purchase, now you need a rifle and a shotgun!

[sparkles]

Good purchase

[85XR7Project]

I always liked those handguns, nice choice! Definitely a step up.

[Drifte]

Thanks Cougar boy, I got myself a p95 yesterday. $320 at scheels . Scheels had a few new ones in stock. They were out of all 9mm target ammo. Came with 2 * 15 round magazines, case, speed loader, lock . Feels pretty solid and smooth. can't wait to try it out. hopefully the swisher shooting range is open despite that accident. stop calling me hi-point boy now

http://automods.com/temp/iaf/ruger_p95.jpg

Let me know next time you go out there.

[AutoMods]

Let me know next time you go out there.

will do, you should sell me some of your ammo

[85XR7Project]

Well as it turns out I also just picked up a Ruger P95. Love it despite the lack of decent holsters.

[AutoMods]

Well as it turns out I also just picked up a Ruger P95. Love it despite the lack of decent holsters.

I've only had mine out once but i like it so far. The third round jammed and then I fired about 150 more without a hitch. maybe i limp wristed it . need to get it out again

[Sleepy]

Are you able to get any more ammo? Bone dry everywhere here.

[85XR7Project]

I lucked out and bought some 9mm off a friend. I have maybe 130 rds left. Its hard to find but you CAN find it online. I am very pleased with it and even more pleased knowing it was $300 OTD.

[skipdownstairs]

This is where I check on ammo until Obama is out of office...
Not sure if anyone posted this website up yet on this thread

http://www.gun-deals.com/ammo.php

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Anyone wanna buy/ trade some .40s&w ammo? I have over 120rds of freedom munitions JHP and no .40 to shoot it lol....ill trade for other ammo, parts, whatev

[SaNdMaNsSi]

I sold my Ruger 40 a few weeks back to a coworker along with a few hundred rounds of ammo. I'm surprised ammo is still so hard to find. I've got lots of 9, .223, .22, etc.

[Sleepy]

Bass Pro is about the biggest place around here to buy and the store shelves are bare.

Well unless you want 7mm, they have a ton of that.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Bass Pro is about the biggest place around here to buy and the store shelves are bare.

Well unless you want 7mm, they have a ton of that.

I was there a couple of weeks ago...they had plenty of 45 and 40 in 100 round boxes.....But everything else was empty. They all had call tags that said they would get re-stocked on the 8th of this month.

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Heckt Power Products is the machine shop that worked on my ls motor. They also opened a firearms section. They had 9mm ammo in stock as well as 22. They are in dysart http://www.redlinefirearmsllc.com/

[85XR7Project]

Its impossible to find 9mm around CF/W'loo. Kinda sucks but I have plenty of rifle ammo that i can shoot.

[Sleepy]

I was there a couple of weeks ago...they had plenty of 45 and 40 in 100 round boxes.....But everything else was empty. They all had call tags that said they would get re-stocked on the 8th of this month.

Damnit, I did not see that when I was there. A relative was up there last weekend and they were all out of 45 and 9.
The 8th was yesterday too. Had I known I would have run up there.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Freedom munitions is putting out 1,000,000 rounds of 9mm at noon today nonlinear...won't last long

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Online not nonlinear...

[skipdownstairs]

So their stock will update at noon or what? I want to get in on this!

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Not sure exactly how it works...check their Facebook page

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Does the shipping change based on your order? If not, and someone orders, I'd be happy to pay them cash for 500 rounds. I just don't want to pay 14 bucks in shipping if it doesn't cost any more to get multiple orders.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Cabelas has 1000 round boxes of .22 in stock on their website as of 1 minute ago. Limit 1 per customer...Unless you have more than 1 credit card, and know the addresses of family members.

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1254554&categoryId=0&parentCategoryId=0&subCategoryId=0&indexId=0&itemGUID=ad4e483eac101c5067a150e5cba89f00&destination=%2Fcheckout%2Fbasket.jsp

[sparkles]

I'd rather stop at Wally World and buy 2 packs of the federal stuff. 100 more rounds and 20 bucks less

[SaNdMaNsSi]

When is the last time Wal Mart had any? I don't mind the extra 20 bucks if I don't have to drive all over town looking for it. I can sit on my ass and let it come to me.

[85XR7Project]

Thats the stuff that is made for semi autos as well, less likely to stovepipe or FTE. Better load consistancy.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Just an FYI, the online boxes are sold out....But if you read the fine print in the email (for those of us that got their hands on some) The next online availability will be the morning of the 25th for ammo....