Mustang cobra jet coming back

[69gt4speed]

Back in 68.5 ford brought out some specially stripped 428cj mustangs to compete in stock and super stock. It destroyed the competition at winternationals fairly well. It was rated 335hp and was refactored by nhra. Worth a lot of $ these days.

Now ford has announced a similar program.
Ford will be resurrecting the Mustang Cobra Jet nameplate for a return this summer as a modern day factory drag racer. The new Cobra Jet will be powered by the Romeo 605 5.4L V8 crate motor from Ford Racing which is similar to the GT500 engine. The Romeo 605 is built at FoMoCo Romeo engine plant niche assembly line with the upgraded TVS supercharger producing 605 horsepower & 550 lb-ft of torque. The Romeo 605 is the most powerful modular engine ever built on a Ford production line. The new Cobra Jet will come factory detuned to just 400 horsepower to meet NHRA rules. Ford plans to build only 50 of these factory drag racer’s for a handful of dealers. The new Cobra Jet is expected to be priced at $69,900 with dealer markups through the roof.
Btw it is not street legal, the vin is not there, just has a serial number.

some specs..
400 est hp 5.4 dohc
6 speed w auto tbd
nhra legal to 10.0 et
nhra legal interior
3300 # approx.
special trim package
drag race wheels and tires
cobra jet graphics
1-800-367-3786
m-fr500-cj

[DustinsDuster]

sounds pretty similar to what Chrysler is doing with the new Challenger factory drag cars. i dont think they were to cost so much though- and they were going to be offered with a few different engines and setups depending on what class you wanted to race in.

[69gt4speed]

Well I looked up the engine in frp catalog, lists for 18.15k. Holy sh-t. That's the 605 hp version. Trying to remember what my 4.6 went for, I think crated +8k. If barret jackson is around though someday maybe be worth 300k for a cobra jet. Who knows. I've got the hood for a 5.4 4v maybe I ought to take out a gm credit loan.

[69gt4speed]

Update.. video of cobra jet being tested out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKe2VsJdUZk

[69gt4speed]

Couple more videos 1 testing, 1 just general info.
Testing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzNFiYy ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzNFiYy-Bg&feature=channel)
5.0 guy talking in the car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBwYibejlc
lil burnout bs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXwA0wXk ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXwA0wXkwyA&feature=related)

[stangvortech]

I love this car..... just like the old school cobra jet.....

[69gt4speed]

Yea it looks pretty uncontrolled on the in car video. I think looking at these test videos it puts down more than they claim. But its light. I'm sure doesn't have a shaker sound system and whatever else. I wonder about a 605 hp version. That's what a low power super snake claims w the tvs s/c.

[Domestic Disturbance]

TVS FTW!!!

[69gt4speed]

Yes, same as the zr1 s/c.

[69gt4speed]

Another recent race at track. Bob tasca jr vs john force. Now remember these are rated around 400hp. for a special stock class. They can't run a lil pulley. I'd like to see one w say 17# boost. Still 93 pump gas range.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmdXYxC6 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmdXYxC6jeU&feature=related)

[Domestic Disturbance]

I thought they were saying it was gonna be a 400hp base but could come with a modded version at over 500hp

[69gt4speed]

Its the same engine as a romeo 605 hp just pulley sizes. If the maf transfer curves were dialed in right then just swap a pulley. Or it had that new abaco maf which suppose to work with any car w a maf. check out test results.
http://www.abacoperformance.com/

[69gt4speed]

Some pics, I think it looks pretty bad azz. And not a stripper either, looks mostly stock w pw. Appears roush is involved also. Head of frrp Brian Wolfe made it happen.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/ford-mustang-cobra-jet-fr500cj_6.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/ford-mustang-cobra-jet-fr500cj_2.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/ford-mustang-cobra-jet-fr500cj_10.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/ford-mustang-cobra-jet-fr500cj_5.jpg

[69gt4speed]

They hid the front of engine to see pulley sizes.

[Domestic Disturbance]

I hope the class fits in the drag pack challenger, and any future production race camaro. It would seem kinda weak without competition. If not, I'm sure NMCA or someone will figure something out. Seem to be a little bit more with the times anymore. I'm sure eventually they will cross paths in competition.

[69gt4speed]

Another finished cobra jet at fontana, notice he doesn't know anything about drag strip, he waits till someone tells him to break 2nd beam, then horrible shifting, goes 11 @ 135 mph, 2nd run lil better 10.7 at 128 hits the rev limiter in 3rd gear to kill top speed. No I'm not driving...lol.. That maverick guy goes wtf gets confused. He does beat the old mopar replicar.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Cobra-Jet_210394.htm

[DustinsDuster]

looks like a '63 Dodge 330. awesome.

[69gt4speed]

Can you read the lettering on the 330 car Dustin?

[DustinsDuster]

i actually cant- its going too fast!

[69gt4speed]

Another view and info about the car... There you go Dustin... The dodge boys, pole co. dodge logo.. Calvert racing is basically caltracs.... Got 2 cars to play with. As of now a 425 rated crank mtr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5Q5ETQ ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5Q5ETQ_2o&feature=related)
Next week...More launch testing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX604vEP ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX604vEP5PI&feature=related)

[69gt4speed]

A week later they are back testing... looking better. Hiding their times also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CgJkKpU ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CgJkKpUmYE&feature=channel)

[Domestic Disturbance]

damn that fucker launches hard. What are those things weighing in at, and what tranny is in them?

[69gt4speed]

6 speed w auto tbd (the gt500 tremec 6 speed) dual disk clutch, some may switch to a jerico I hear not sure.
nhra legal to 10.0 et
nhra legal interior
3300 # approx.
9" ford differential

I put up a pic of engine and transmission ready to set in the cj car.
Both drivers well known in the day, used to race old cj mustangs.

Oh btw one ran....
"Here in Phx AZ 10.16 133. Also doing clutch testing"


68 pictures
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/troublemaker427/68dragteam06a.jpg
New pictures of 2 different cj cars
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/slobtlo/FR500CJ/IMG_2151.jpg
And look close.... a auto in a/sa w bars
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/slobtlo/FR500CJ/IMG_2148.jpg

[69gt4speed]

Found out a lil more ok... the auto's are c4's, chance converter w footbrake. It seems.... 425 crank ford hp :yawinkle: and 3.3k# weight. Insiders swear they are 3.3k# cars.
"Test cars when ford was developing the car put up numbers in the 9.80's at ~140 mph IIRC. That's all I could really say."
"The autos run 9's w footbrake."
"Everybody knows a hi stall built auto will outrun a man by a few tenths."

That's why the hoosiers on last 2, the goodyears didn't hookup enough w the auto so the guy from ks. said. Holzman shop.
Hi 9's from a nhra "stock" car? Back in 70 that was pro stock ranges. And for fact a 68.5 428 cj ran around 12.5's in nhra "stock" class. Guess 425 hp nhra was weak back then, those cars were lighter too.

[69gt4speed]

He did not say to not post this, so what he said....There you go guys, a first ever info. :supz:

"Whoops! I missed that trans question! Both of our cars will be running 4speed G-Force transmissions, along with McLeod clutches, flywheels, pressure plates, and bellhousings. The G-Force is very similar to the Jerico though, and has a V-gate shifter."

[JacobS]

sounds to me like ford really thought this one through...now they only have to work on the pricing :help:

[69gt4speed]

They already sold all 50, will make 50 more w new body style. Looks like maybe half will end up racing, some go to barrett jackson, some being stored away. I was surprised #1 was racing. Then there are the 3 prototypes. I wish they were 30k or so myself. The g force cars are the calvert ones. Face tooth transmissions, dog box some say.

[XR4LIFE]

Wow that’s a truly bad ass car, not sure if I like that huge hood scoop though....

[69gt4speed]

That's a boss 429 replica hood scoop, I've got a real boss 429 scoop on my 69 hood. I figure the new stang looks like a 69/70 front wise mo or less and figured ford racing thought a boss 429 scoop looked more badazz. The 68.5's 428's and reg mach's had a smaller scoop stock. This is all retro basically to commemorate the 68.5 428 cj. New ones suppose to have a like 15" dia hole cut out in hood like the old boss 429's idk. I wish I had that alum hood option cause it's like 18#.

Yea like it or not these cars are badazz just goes to show what a lighter weight car can do w/o all the etc. stuff. Figure a shelby weighs 4k u drop weight to 3.3k or less, it's a animal w/o tearing up stuff like a porker does w same parts. With cats it would pass most anywhere emissions. It's got ford gt cams.

[69gt4speed]

Well LOL there be much fighting by the chevy boys over the cj hp rating, they had to shut it down at 500 posts. Now seems to me since the ls1 was/is rated by nhra at 305hp fair is fair. On nhra.com there is a full spread about the cars and hp at 425 and 2 autos and 2 sticks, I can't post it here, copyright stuff. Oh chevy cancelled their racing program and dodge put it on hold so... cj's compete w other cars, why the cry of foul.

What one guy says...
"The thing that really bothers me about this is that it's obvious that Ford did this with hp numbers they knew were bogus and that's like stealing. The other thing is that NHRA let them get away with it without protecting their own members from unfair competition."

Well times are hard, more spectators = mo money. Frpp is giving out $1k for any cj that wins this yr. Better than 1 mil bathroom upgrades by wall street tycoons paid by us imo.

I might add looking on nhra website that pulley looks pretty big, larger than a stock gt 500 but it does have the tvs so idk. About a week we find out. Pomona is the debut. Feb 5th to 9th. It is not test and tune then.

Did I mention ford back into pro stock w that hot woman driver? Brian Wolfe is the man...head of frpp.

[69gt4speed]

John Calvert qualified #2 overall in a/s at winternationals.
2. John Calvert A/S 11.25 10.080 -1.170
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RatIUzWi_vA
Let's hope he wins, then other co. get on board.
On espn2 this weekend. Watch it. A 10.080 on a 11.25 index.
Schedule for espn2..
http://nhra.com/nhraontv/fullthrottle.aspx

Btw when I say overall that means just that overall in stock class... ran -1.170 under his index.

[Domestic Disturbance]

sweet hopefully ill get to watch that

[69gt4speed]

Running a 10.07 131 qualifying, one of the c4 auto cars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNpya0FmKuw

Espn2 9:00 pm tonight

Here's a old one running 10.8's probably c/stock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueRRetb7Q1k

[69gt4speed]

Damn nothing was on espn2 besides prostock, funny car and top fuel. Maybe tonight suppose to be showing eliminations idk....

[69gt4speed]

Ok Tuesday no rain finally, John Calvert is in semifinals down to 3 cars, Idk what happened to Stinnett, broke maybe, don't know it was the a/sa car. Calvert is a/s car w the 4 speed dogbox. If he wins be almost a miracle w a stick.

1 other d/sa auto, Tom Gaynor (96 firebird) and 1 other b/s, Jeff Huffman (69 mustang) stick left. Ran out of time, finish wed? This started btw w 87 cars in stock competition. Racing handicapped. Calvert's index is around 10.1. Yes, I'd like it to come down to new vs old stang.

[69gt4speed]

It's stacked against Calvert, he has to run the Huffman 69 stang first, Gaynor in the auto 96 firebird gets a freebie.

Huffman's 69 stang redlights against Calvert's 08 cj by -.030. Calvert runs a 10.13 on a 10.14 index dial in.... both run under their index dial in, Calvert's is less though.

Final.... it's Tom Gaynor in the auto 96 firebird vs John Calvert in the manual 08 Cobra jet, they stage, line up, tree goes down and Gaynor redlights by -.079..... holy sh-t... Calvert runs a 10.136 on a 10.14 index dial w a .085 r/t... I can't believe it, first time ever in a race the 2008 cobra jet Wins stock eliminator... History has been made AGAIN... :supz:

[69gt4speed]

Well here's the proof.... And get this the winner in 68 winternationals had same lettering and Al Joniec drove the 68. This 08 had 6 wks to get ready and test and win...
Calvert w 08 cj and the Wally

http://image.musclemustangfastfords.com/f/17732076/mmfp_090600_02_z+2010_ford_FR500CJ_Cobra_Jet+.jpg

The old 68 version....
http://www.mustangphotos.com/photopost/data/500/medium/703joniec.jpg

A 08 pic w winternationals banner
http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/ford-news/ford-racings-fr500cj-takes-aa-stock-eliminator-class/17735307+cr1+re0+ar1/fr500-cj-win-at-pomona.jpg

[69gt4speed]

Btw Gary Stinnett w his auto 08 cj ran a 9.78 in qualifying this past weekend. Double breakout he lost.

[69gt4speed]

Guess what I have some real dynojet numbers on the cobra jet as delivered. :bigthumb: Holy sh-t. I was off by approx 75 rwhp. That is a pump gas tune too. I have a boost number also. It is pretty much what I already said. Very pump gas friendly. I can't say the #... rwhp is north of zr1 stock #. Same boost.

[snickerlicker]

Whats so "top secret" about the #'s??? You buying one or something?

[69gt4speed]

No, not buying a cj, it has no vin. Mo like this imo. Vin, street legal. lol.. faster... cheaper also. Same size mtr thou.
http://photos.imageevent.com/69gt4speed/carforumpics/websize/sonic%20racer.jpg

[snickerlicker]

Looks like Busters car from up north...

[69gt4speed]

No this one is a 5.4 4v. mid 8's 166 mph in 1/4..

Btw sent a pm on the cj.

[Domestic Disturbance]

I don't get it. Why is it so secretive?

[69gt4speed]

Why is it secretive.. Well say you are a nascar team and spent a lot of time and money developing a package and getting it approved. And you did a few tricks and got by w it and had a competive advantage. You think they would want it known? It would be known soon enough granted but for a lil while they have the edge.

Nhra stock class is the same rules pretty much as nascar. Every mod has to be approved beforehand. The hp rating, the weight, the motor, the tranny, etc. etc. Just getting cj approved at 425 hp and 3275 #. While a gt500 is at 3860# w rated 500 hp. Ok the rwhp is between 375 and 625. 15# boost. 15 deg timing. But remember it is index/handicapped racing. You only get a wally if you beat every other stock class racer. 15 sec. or 11 sec. It's complicated to say the least and expensive. Bottom line nhra rated low hp and decent weight. Those cobalts are popular btw.

Stinnett ran a verified 9.78 w the auto. I'd probably go to streetfire or youtube look up a gt500 dyno w say a 2.3 whipple or 2.8 kb at 15 to 17# there is your answer approx. Maybe it has ford gt cams in it idk..

[Domestic Disturbance]

ah I see. I guess I am not fully indulged enough in the ideas and ethics behind how that class works, but sounds tricky. I like it

[snickerlicker]

Sounds like Modmotor FTW again.

[69gt4speed]

Ya wish someone around here buy one...... Or that blue car I posted up.... It's a animal..

[Mufflover]

That blue car is preety sweet does someone around here own it?

[69gt4speed]

New video of cobra jets at a qualifying session on a crappy track (kid). Still ran a 9.94 at 136. Vid from a couple I know in wichita w a gto.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Cobr ... 641604.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Cobra-Jets_641604.htm)

[69gt4speed]

Lil retro history video, seems the cj are laying low as ppl are bitching, I can't really blame them though. Remember that name Brett Hajek....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcjptEzo ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcjptEzog_0&feature=channel)

[69gt4speed]

Here is a tasca retro looking model w a stick doing a run... 08 model. Why it says 429 cj idk. 145 mph for a 425 hp rated 3250# car. It has run in 9.20's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcvYRs1S1-4