Last Fun Night

[Luminatorz34]

whose all going to the last fun night in cedar falls raceway tonite? i will be there for sure in the camaro...gonna see what it will do on the clock for real this time, a few guys from my work will be going, with a couple of gsx's and this p.o.s civic thing. but out of curiousity, can i expect to see anyone there tonite?

[Drifte]

tonights the last night its open? I could probably go actually. If I do end up going I may have to call you bout that trans, that would work out real well. Im actually free tonight to do that...what time you gonna show up?

later'

colton

[TbTalon94]

i'd go...but i've got a few things to get done tonight :biggrin:

[Luminatorz34]

ill be showing up at or around 6 or 6:30...then staying all night. switched out my wheels and tires, so i dont mess up my good shoes haha..im excited for this actually....will be my first time at the track..if i run anything better than a 17, ill be happy haha


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[Drifte]

daaaaaaaaaamnit i have a new phone and not your number!!!!!111 aim says you left 13minutes ago too. DAMNIT

[Luminatorz34]

well, i just got back....ran 4 times...2 14.1's and 2 14.00's thats gay imo....so its time for mods :) im hooked on it...the adrenaline rush i get from it is awesome....i surprised myself a few times actually....went up against some hardcore muscle, like a 69 camaro ss, that was obviously cammed, beat him.....a 87 monte ss, beat him, a early 70's challenger r/t beat him, then was going against a 98-04 era mustang gt, till the tree fucked up, and showed i red lighted before i was even staged which was gay, so i did a solo run :(

[DustinsDuster]

so youre not gonna tell us what times you ran? come on man, dont tease us. by the 60's, i would guess low 14's, maybe high 13's. sound right?

[ZEE]

I think that sticker in your window slowed you down.:)

[Luminatorz34]

lol wtf....the sticker adds power every ricer will tell you that....haha....i ran consistent times ...first run was a 14.12 which was my slowest for the night. the rest were a 14.02, 14.02, and 14.07 first run was 94.35mph and the last was 100.35mph best 60' was 2.12

[Stutz]

Is your camaro an auto?

[DustinsDuster]

yeah, his car is an auto. were you manually shifting it Steve? or did you just throw it in drive and go?

[Luminatorz34]

just in drive and go...although, i was only getting into the power band in 3rd gear by the end

[DustinsDuster]

yeah, what rear gears are you running? probably somewhere around 3.23, MAYBE 3.42. with a stock converter and a near stock motor, you wont be anywhere near peak power going through the traps. hell, even on nitrous with a high stall converter and 3.91 gears, i was fighting to get past 6000rpm, but then again, i had 27" tall tires too....

[ZEE]

Stickers only add power on an import. Everybody knows that. :roll:

[ZEE]

Rear gears for an auto would be 3.23's.

[Luminatorz34]

even if my car is a factory z rated car?

[ZEE]

All Auto's were 3.23's. All Manuals were 3.42's. Factory z-rated tires means the rev limiter is set to 160 versus the 120 limit on cars that did not have factory z-rated tires.

[logans dad]

I think with what you have thats a good time!! Throw some lower gear in it and I see 12's.

[ZEE]

Put a lid and cat back and you should knock it down. I've personally seen stock (except for lid) auto's run anywhere from 13.2's to 13.8's on stock radials.

[Domestic Disturbance]

i think some autos came with 2.73s too. i believe it relates to all autos v6/v8. door codes gu2 - 2.73's, and i think its gu5 for 3.23's? please correct me if i'm wrong

[Luminatorz34]

i already have a magnaflow cat back exhaust...but yeah ill throw a lid on it, and some other items and see what she does

[ZEE]

i think some autos came with 2.73s too. i believe it relates to all autos v6/v8. door codes gu2 - 2.73's, and i think its gu5 for 3.23's? please correct me if i'm wrong

Actually you are correct. :WORSHIP: I thought all autos were 3.23's. All SS/WS6/Firehawk autos were 3.23's. Z28 Auto were 2.73's unless ordered with the performance axle package. So look at your door.

[DustinsDuster]

i think some autos came with 2.73s too. i believe it relates to all autos v6/v8. door codes gu2 - 2.73's, and i think its gu5 for 3.23's? please correct me if i'm wrong

Actually you are correct. :WORSHIP: I thought all autos were 3.23's. All SS/WS6/Firehawk autos were 3.23's. Z28 Auto were 2.73's unless ordered with the performance axle package. So look at your door.


i believe his is a 6 speed car.

[Domestic Disturbance]

we were just trying to help luminatorz find out what gears he had in his auto. 6 speed ftw tho :rock:

[DustinsDuster]

6 speed ftw tho :rock:

half that seemed to work just fine for what i needed out of my car....

[ZEE]

But you know a six speed in that would be more fun to drive. :supz:

[DustinsDuster]

But you know a six speed in that would be more fun to drive. :supz:

yeah, it would be a lot of fun. it would also cost twice as much as my tranny all built up with a gear vendors though....

[Domestic Disturbance]

whatever gets the job done. zee and i just know how to have more fun :neener:

[DustinsDuster]

whatever gets the job done. zee and i just know how to have more fun :neener:

yeah, and i know how to go faster....

[ZEE]

whatever gets the job done. zee and i just know how to have more fun :neener:

yeah, and i know how to go faster....

Maybe. :rolleyes:

[DustinsDuster]

you go ahead and work on beating my current fast time for a bit while i work on bettering it.

[ZEE]

Why would I need to work at beating your time? You don't have any idea what my car runs. I'm constantly working to make mine quicker just like you. So how would you know how to go faster. You don't know how fast mine is for comparison. :BURNOUT:

[DustinsDuster]

man youre easy to get going Jay! ive never seen a catfish battle a pile of rust before, but i guess they're a first time for everything....

[Domestic Disturbance]

his catfish makes my catfish look like a lil baby. They are some sexy cat's though I'll say that for sure!

[ZEE]

man youre easy to get going Jay! ive never seen a catfish battle a pile of rust before, but i guess they're a first time for everything....

It was my evil twin.:) :rolleyes:

[fbodyguy]

Why would I need to work at beating your time? You don't have any idea what my car runs. I'm constantly working to make mine quicker just like you. So how would you know how to go faster. You don't know how fast mine is for comparison. :BURNOUT:

I know catfish lips :neener:
money lots of it, now, give me millions of dollars or else

[ZEE]

Why would I need to work at beating your time? You don't have any idea what my car runs. I'm constantly working to make mine quicker just like you. So how would you know how to go faster. You don't know how fast mine is for comparison. :BURNOUT:

I know catfish lips :neener:
money lots of it, now, give me millions of dollars or else

Don't tell or your shoes are history. You pay me millions or the left one gets it first. Later GEO Storm Guy.http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/dvv/bash.gif

[DustinsDuster]

Jay, the front of your car looks like Heath Ledger in "The Patriot" after he drank the tea with ink in it...

[Domestic Disturbance]

geo storms and catfish unite!

[ZEE]

He still got laid though. :hedbang:

[DustinsDuster]

yeah, and then he died...

[Luminatorz34]

ok, so a tiny ass update...i just bought a set of long tube headers...i will be getting a off road y pipe, and eliminating the cats altogether, then gonne redo the "cat back" and get rid of the flattened out piping...see if i gain anything at all with these headers..im trying to get ahold of a air lid now. then the maro should be feeling a lil better....also some guys on ls1.com reccommended a shift kit....what do you guys think? i dont want ot lose the driveability of the car at all. but would like to gain et's in the 1/4 just not looking to make a weekend warrior outta this thing just yet

[Domestic Disturbance]

a shift kit will make it much better. you wont have to worry about drivability at all. itll just have quicker response changing gears

whats LT's and Y pipe did you get?

[Luminatorz34]

i just bought the long tube headers....their pace setters..i dont have a ory yet...i want to get the headers here and then see how im gonna set it up...cuz now with headers and the ory i wont be running cats, so i might be throwing in an electric cutout..dont know where ill put it...but for now im in the market for a ory

[ZEE]

Headers aren't going to gain you a whole lot. The most gains from headers will be with the addition of a cam. Even better with heads also. Stock Ls1 manifolds are really pretty decent. Unlike LT1 manifolds which suck. Catback would be good. I'd skip the shift kit and just get tuning software. Then you can tune the tranny to do whatever you want and you won't need the shift kit. Do the headers have provisions for emissions AIR, EGR etc? If not, Your going to have to get the codes turned off. Another reason to buy tuning software. With the offroad pipe your going to need O2 sims or turn off codes for the rear O2's. More reasons for software again.

[Domestic Disturbance]

pacesetter headers are supposed to be the best bang for the buck headers, but don't get their off road y pipe. i think the popular choice is Texas Speed & Performances (TSP) adjustable ypipe. I dont know from personally experience but I know i've heard of that combo several times when it comes to using Pacesetters.

This is a comparison of KOOKS vs Pacesetter, but a lot of people mention their combo's with them

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea ... 519&page=2 (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=667519&page=2)

[Luminatorz34]

well i have a magnaflow cat back already, so this will just help me out...but, isaw a guy in town here that ive been trying to chase down for the last 6 months..he has a beautiful 00 camaro...and louder than hell. i was able to stop him and talk to him...asked him what hes running for exhaust..he told me he has long tube headers and then a true dual with borla stright thru type mufflers...i always thought he had a cutout but assured me it was just true dual...but he has a cam also, as it had a tiny bit of loping at idle.....but in all honesty, id like mine to sound like his, but dont want to be a copy cat. but im sure if i stick with my long tubes, a cutout after the headers then redo piping into my cat back i should be satisfied...i was thinking a cam also, but just want to throw on the headers and see what it wants to do...and i still need a lid to complete the package..to answer your question yes i got the headers with the egr provisions. as mine is a 99. and you need those. 00+ you didnt need them..so i thought id play it safe and do it this way..and i will need a ory still and o2 sims....so pretty much the headers might sit a few weeks before i can do anythin, and im trying to buy a truck right now too, so the camaro is my only vehicle right now, and cant afford to knock it out for a weekend and attempt headers and not have all the parts there....so yeah itll just be a few weeks, gimme time to accumulate the parts i need

[ZEE]

Most that have the 'true duals' Dump them right in front of the axle. You would be surprised the number of people that get them,love them, then hate them, then put a catback back on. They are so loud in the cabin and the drone at highway speeds is awful. They sound great outside though. You trading that small gain for awful cabin noise. You should look into an LS6 intake for that and get that extra 15 RWHP. Make sure get rid of that paper filter when you get a lid. :yawinkle: Most run the cutout before the axle after the Y.

[Luminatorz34]

i will look into a ls6 intake....this guy had the borla mufflers coming out the rear...didnt dump at all. but yeah i was gonna tack a cutout in right after the ory, then re fab the piping to the muffler again. and already ahead of ya on the paper filter...ive been running a k&n for the past 2 years

[Domestic Disturbance]

01+ didnt have AIR and EGR. i still had to deal with it on my 2000. its off, the pumps in the trunk, and the codes are trippin haha. i need to get them deleted.

[ZEE]

01+ didn't have EGR. They still had AIR though......Damn the SES light!

[Domestic Disturbance]

thats gay. AIR is bout the coolest invention next to a shotgun with a toothbrush on the end of it

[ZEE]

Got to fire up them cats fast so you don't kill the Earth with your gas guzzlin' pollution machine.........I can feel the Earth dyin' :cop: