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DustinsDuster
05-14-2007, 07:08 PM
this is the prime example of the dumb girls i meet in bars who aregue with me about polotics, but really dont know what the hell they are talking about:

http://www.yikers.com/video_liberal_bandwagon_girl_is_retarded.html

DragonUSMC
05-14-2007, 08:30 PM
This is why I hate college kids...
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ZacFields
05-15-2007, 01:56 AM
lol that girl had no clue what she was talking about. She's just like every other picket sign holder I've ever met. Just out there to hold a sign, drink some beer, and disrespect a couple guys who are brave enough to be in the military in a time of war.

This is exactly the kind of shit that gets me riled up. Some dumb bitch who knows nothing about politics other than "bush started it and I didn't vote for him."

That's one thing I hate about this country, is the fact that people have the right to protest like that. How they can literally stand there surrounding a couple soldiers who have either been in battle or will be going there soon who are just doing their fucking jobs and completely disrespect them like that.

My take on it is this: Leave it alone. We're at war, and unless you're a politician there ain't shit YOU can do about it. Your protests mean NOTHING and they never will. They do nothing but show that you're a bunch of disrespectful little punks.

I gotta stop there... cuz i'll write a book about this shit if I dont set limits.

Zac

SaNdMaNsSi
05-15-2007, 03:45 AM
When I was back in the US I used to eat out at Granite City every Sunday and there were always retards out there holding signs. I'd just drive by real slow and stare at them and then shake my head. You'd be surprised at how uncomfortable you can make someone when they realize you don't agree and you look like youre going to murder them.

69gt4speed
05-15-2007, 04:51 AM
My take on it is this: Leave it alone. We're at war, and unless you're a politician there ain't shit YOU can do about it. Your protests mean NOTHING and they never will. They do nothing but show that you're a bunch of disrespectful little punks.

Hmmm ya let's live in nazi germany. Ya realize what you just said? No freedom of speech nothin. This dumbass country was founded on dumbasses that didn't go with the flow, that protested and eventually took matters into their own hands. I really don't want to get into who knows what about stuff, most ppl don't know all the facts. Yet they have a right to say their lil piece about things. Even you or this college girl.

A case in point, previous generals over iraq are standing up right now and saying the lil Iraq war was a mistake for us cause of failed policy and bad strategy. Go argue with them and the voters.

Sh-t if I was all normal I would of ran a sbc and life would have been good I guess. I appreciate other ppls opinions cause I might form a different opinion. I realize you have not been bs enough yet, give it a few years.

My prediction, the lil surge won't do squat cause it does not address the issues at hand, historical issues, political issues, food and shelter issues, and the other things that keep ppl happy. That lil iraq gov of theirs wanted to take a 3 month vacation, tell me they want to do anything but butter their bread. We better get the draft going cause it's going to take at least another 300k to 500k guys over there to do it by military means. The place is huge. Otherwise better tell them we are going unless they do for themselves and start making agreements.

MustangSally
05-15-2007, 05:24 AM
Here's my 2 cents, these video vets say it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjlpWs2-5Fk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQiETf20 ... ed&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQiETf201Js&mode=related&search=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAAn4Njm ... ed&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAAn4NjmEnM&mode=related&search=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8INbFna ... ed&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8INbFnaK18&mode=related&search=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMITjDqe ... ed&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMITjDqeb-E&mode=related&search=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3yBKQZ ... ed&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3yBKQZ_HA&mode=related&search=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2lQuTj ... ed&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2lQuTjPkc&mode=related&search=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZCaP_e3 ... ed&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZCaP_e3bzE&mode=related&search=)

DragonUSMC
05-15-2007, 07:13 AM
^sorry sally but a lot of those "former people deployed to Iraq" have been proven liars.

Hell i've personally checked their SRB's and 90% of them were NEVER deployed to Iraq but rather were removed from the military for various reasons. Some of them were, but then again i can show you tons and tons of videos of other people who can and will say just the opposite of the people you posted... so what's the point?

The REAL point isnt pro-war or against war... Its about the fact that a majority of the people that protest anything are too stupid to actually know what they are protesting. They foolishly revel in the freedoms that they constantly take for granted. Hell most of em haven’t even been out of their own state let alone seen another country.

This girls response... well if you can call it that I guess is why i hate college kids. Most of them are too fuking stupid to actually understand ANYTHING going on around them, yet they will tell you EVERYTHING about it.

69gt4speed
05-15-2007, 10:32 AM
^^^ Above... Exactly, however I have to give some credence for several generals to retire to speak up on things he sees that was wrong or not implemented right. Who better than that?

Like saying a 03 cobra is slow ass sh-t cause of my driving and or preperation failed to consider the conditions and situation and lost.

So if it was failed policies, that does not mean I am against winning the war. No, it means after seeing and hearing what I can, being neutral best I can, I form the opinion Failed policies are to blame. Not our guys, not the idea, but those implementing them that close their brain to others that might try to tell them it isn't working. The only option then is to speak up and vote and hope for the best. Mission Accomplished.....

Ashley
05-15-2007, 12:56 PM
heres my take on protesters: theres a women's clinic on wiley, right down the street from my house. every so often there are lameasses out there with there picket signs saying how abortion is sooo bad and you're going to hell if you get one.

if a girl pulls into that parking lot ready to get an abortion, do you really think that she's gonna read one of those signs and say "oh gee, i didn't realize i would go to hell if i did this!" and get back in her car and drive away? uh no. because no one cares about stupid little signs. you're not going to change anyones minds about big issues by standing there with a lame little sign and yelling at people looking like a complete crazy person. more often than not, they're going to DISAGREE with your signs just because you're yelling at them and looking stupid.

i dont even care about abortion, but more often than not, i get all pumped up about being pro-choice every time i drive past those lunatics just because they look so damned stupid.

EDIT: sorry, i'm not trying to take away from the political thing and how stupid that girl is.. i just felt like talking about how protesting is useless, haha.

ZacFields
05-15-2007, 01:06 PM
To Rob, 'Nita, and anyone else who has responded:

Here is my final post in this topic. And I'm going to lay this out so everyone can understand. My take on protests is that they accomplish absolutely nothing when you're protesting something that only ONE person in America has the ability to stop and he doesn't care what you say. To them I say "Go to work, get a job...find something better to do with your time."

I'm not going to be rude to you guys like before, but I'm going to tell ya there is absolutely nothing you can say and nothing you can show me to change my mind even 1%. Yeah I've seen vets whining about the war... but then again there are a few guys out there in Iraq that joined the military because they were a bunch of hoodlums in high school smashing mailboxes and stuff.... and the only thing they want the entire time they're over there is to come home and bang their girlfriends.

Point is, not 100% of soldiers agree with the war, but the ones that don't agree with the war get about 5,000% more publicity than the ones that do, eh? Because what's so special about a soldier that loves his country and understands war? Nothin because it just means they joined the military for the right reasons. Personally, I know a lot of war vets including Jay, and I've personally never met a war vet that has a serious problem with the war other than they're sick of having to leave their families....yet I see all kinds of them on TV. hmm.

But as Jay said, this is not a pro-war/anti-war discussion anyways. This is about some dumb bitch who is very representative of anyone who protest anything in her overall knowlege of what she was protesting about. I'm not against REAL protests...but when I say REAL protests I mean something that actually works. Like if Oreo started putting some form of rat poison in their cookies, people could get together and spread the word and stop buying their cookies. Launch a massive "oreo boycott". Genious idea, and it would take money out of that business's pocket. But stuff like this is all hype. I bet 75% of those kids don't even really care, and I bet you half of them will vote for Guliani :)

But again, I won't post to this topic again because I am not going to get into a political discussion because i KNOW where that goes. Why doesn't everyone just quit wasting their time and (like me) admit that your opinions will not be changed by anything you read in this topic.

Zac

DragonUSMC
05-15-2007, 04:49 PM
^^^ Above... Exactly, however I have to give some credence for several generals to retire to speak up on things he sees that was wrong or not implemented right. Who better than that?

Like saying a 03 cobra is slow ass sh-t cause of my driving and or preperation failed to consider the conditions and situation and lost.

So if it was failed policies, that does not mean I am against winning the war. No, it means after seeing and hearing what I can, being neutral best I can, I form the opinion Failed policies are to blame. Not our guys, not the idea, but those implementing them that close their brain to others that might try to tell them it isn't working. The only option then is to speak up and vote and hope for the best. Mission Accomplished.....

Yes dude exactly!

69gt4speed
05-16-2007, 12:45 AM
Of course that is anyone's option to agree with someone or not about anything here right now. I hope I am wrong truly I do. Won't be first or last. We will see I guess and I hope it is still anyone's option to disagree hopefully based on facts, whatever it might be.

I know I make ya mad Zac, sorry bud but I have been told so much bs it is hard for me to accept someones story without some verified facts. Guy says my car makes xxx hp to the wheels and runs x.xx. I say well good, do you have some proof?

If I am wrong I'll come on here and say so. Don't take it personal, you guys are the future yet don't believe everything ya hear. If we did we would be popping massive quantities of pills just to feel good, get hard, live longer, be thin for starters. What is good one day is bad the next, to sell more products or to actually help? And everyone tries to sell products.

ZacFields
05-16-2007, 01:46 AM
You dont make me mad Rob. I just don't really like talking about the war to begin with...good or bad. Any vet will tell you its one of the most annoying things in the world to see civilians arguing over war.

Anita had the right idea posting those vet videos... let the vets do the talking. But as I said, I don't believe those vets represent 3% of the entire military, and as Jay said a lot of them have been proven liars.

I never said I agree with the way the war was carried out. Obviously if it was carried out correctly we wouldn't still be in it. But the problem with that is that I personally don't think I could have planned it better...so until I think of something i really don't have much to say about that either.

Zac