Warning: Kirkwood will fuck your life up

[krustindumm]

I'm pissed right now, so I'll be brief.

My advisor (#4 in 2.5 years) at kirkwood tells me I have every class I need to transfer to Iowa done. I move to Iowa City, start Kirkwood there because it was too late to register for Iowa. Try to see an advisor to help me pick out classes, and am told that I don't have nor can I get an advisor. Sweet. So I pick some classes where I wasn't happy with my grades, thinking I can do better and improve my GPA. I get one teacher who doesnt speak any english, and I complain until I am given an advisor, who does nothing to help me get a different teacher.

Fast foreward. I go visit Iowa, taking my tran.script with me. They point out that before I can even transfer, I need to take two classes. Woah, how about that. Fucked me over AGAIN. After that I decide, fuck kirkwood, I'll start at IA as if I had never gone to college, and do the whole thing over again, just so they can never fuck me again.

Then my student loan bill shows up. Theres the $3500 I expected, but below it, $3800. Well the $3500 I recieved a check for $2500 (check is sent to k-wood, they pay my tuition and then send me the remainder), 3 months after semester had started. Apperently the student loan place sent k-wood two checks though, and kirkwood never sent me any of the $3800. Where is it? Don't know.

All I can say is they better fucking figure it out in a hurry. And I want them to pay for the intrest its been acruing since then.

Boycott Kirkwood!

[Ashley]

if you dont like having teachers who dont speak english, you might want to reconsider going to iowa.

[JustinS]

Kirkwood fucked me over also, I'm glad I'm out of that shit hole.

[ZacFields]

i haven't had any problems out of kirkwood myself. Had a few issues with some advisers who were giving me some mis-information but it wasn't a big deal.

But then again the program i'm in is pretty clear-cut. Like you don't even really need an adviser because the transfer information is all written down.

Zac

[JustinS]

The problem is that the information they have written down was mostly wrong for what I transferred for. Oh well, I moved on and that's all that matters for me.

Hey Zac, did you get my PM?

[sLoWnStEaDy]

GREAT... I start in July. Oh well they couldnt possibly fuck me over any more than prairie did!!

[ZacFields]

Yes, sorry Justin.

I'll have Ashley change that for you ASAP. So next time you log in you'll have to use the new name.

Zac

[DustinsDuster]

guess it makes me feel a bit better about never going to Kirkwood...

[foxsgurl28]

I havent had any problems either. Did you start as a liberal arts major or what Krustendumm? Because if you were with any other major, even the liberal arts major, you should have gone to the dean and then there is also a web site, I cant remember it at the moment, but it tells you what teachers are good and which ones suck! You should have also asked around or the advisor which teacher is the best choice for the class. My advisor is the dean of the health sciences. I dont want fucked over so i went to the best! What are you gonna major in at Iowa?

[Drifte]

kirkwood messed up a lot for me. its a good thing i took care of shit on my own. my first advisor switched jobs, so everyone in my program lost their advisor, so before we all graduated they said our 2 main teachers would be our advisors. But they forgot to tell our teachers that. My gf's advisor is doug hall, hes been on so many drugs, he doesnt know whats goin on anyway. It's kinda rediculous how they screw some people over with dvisors. seems to be people in Nielson for art degrees, etc who get it the worst. same for auto folk.

[melhoneybee]

I had no problem with my classes... teachers.. or advisors in the AG department..

[JustinS]

Yes, sorry Justin.

I'll have Ashley change that for you ASAP. So next time you log in you'll have to use the new name.

Zac
Thanks guys, although I lost about 300 posts. :yawinkle:

I hated how Kirkwood made teachers the advisors, most didn't know what the heck they were talking about.

[Stutz]

Fuck kwood, im not going to college at all. Hello factory job for the rest of my life.

[amoander]

expect the same crap from Iowa,

[Ashley]

expect the same crap from Iowa,

yep.. my advisor was pretty dumb, he didnt know any of the school policies regarding 2nd grade option, dropping classes, etc.. plus none of my math or science teachers could speak english. even my adv. rhetoric professor (english writing/speaking) could hardly speak english, our TA's had to recap the whole lecture for us bc we usually couldn't understand the professor.

[Drifte]

thats rediculous. i have a tech proffessor right now whos a soft spoken indian. were in a damn auditorium idk what hes saying.

[JustinS]

You guys should come to Iowa State then, all of my professors can be understood. :yawinkle:

[amoander]

If we all went to Iowa State, then we would all have to admit we went to Iowa State. Thats bad enough j/k

[Drifte]

justin your getting lucky. my bro went their and had some he couldnt understand.

[JustinS]

Well I do have one who's a tad hard to understand but nothing like Mr. Asigbee that teaches econ at K-wood. He had such a thick accent I could barely understand a word he said.

I do have a Canadian teacher here, who like to say "eh" I giggle inside everytime she says it! LOL

[Rollin on Dubs]

I had no problems with Kirkwood. It’s all pretty cut and dry on what is required to transfer and what wont. Everything that an advisor would tell you is also in print somewhere and can be accessed by anyone. Reading it myself, works better than listening to someone who has to deal with 400 other students all around the same time frame.

I didn’t have much student loan issues either. After 2 years at k wood I only $1400 in loans and just paid the rest out of my pocket with the Kirkwood loan program. (Split up in 3 payments once a month).

[ZacFields]

^ Agreed.

Ultimately as an adult you should be able to handle it. I was taken a little off-guard when I first got to kirkwood when I realized that they weren't going to hold my hand and make sure I took the necessary classes like my high school did. Once I realized that they were just expecting me to be an adult and take care of my own business I have been doing just fine.

In fact, it never hurts to keep in contact with the college that you plan to transfer to. This semester I have had multiple email conversations with advisers from the U of Iowa and advisers from Kirkwood in preparation for my transfer (and also to make sure i've taken the MAXIMUM amount of classes at kirkwood that will make my time at Iowa as short as possible)

To me it was really simple. If I'm hearing the same things from Iowa as I'm hearing from kirkwood, then we're good. When there's conflicting comments being made to me by each party, I was able to investigate it further and find out which one had their facts straight... and I'd hate to say it but 9 times out of 10 it was the kirkwood advisers that had everything under control and the Iowa advisers that were leading me in the wrong direction.

Zac

[Ashley]

plus they have degree audits... a list of every single class you need to transfer/graduate, and its right on eaglenet. all you do is read your degree audit... and register for classes. not real difficult, i havent met with my advisor once, i'm not even sure who she is? dont really need her.

[krustindumm]

I got k-wood to give me that $3800 back, it was easier than I thought it would be, but there is still no excuse for a Financial Aid office to misplace that amount of money.

As for the teacher not speaking english, it wasn't just that he couldn't. It was that he would substitute terms for each other and not even notice (ex. say addition, mean subtraction) and he wrote everything in his own shortand completely out of order on the board, so it was basically impossable to take notes. The only way I got through was to read the book and ignore him during class.

[ZacFields]

Sounds like my intermediate algebra class, Krustin.

It's amazing how I can float through Business Calculus and be getting near 100% in Fundamentals of Statistics, yet I could barely manage a C in Intermediate Algebra. I had a teacher (who was very nice, and tried hard) who had a little bit of trouble speaking clear English.

Sometimes she would be talking and she would say a word, or sometimes even a sentence that I didn't understand and I had to sit there and try and figure out what she'd just said. It was very hard to take notes in that class at all and it was a very difficult class for me.

Then again, it's also strange how I got a D in statistical ideas (the easy as pie stats class) and I'm getting an A in Fundamentals of Statistics (the specific prerequisite course for Iowa's business college). But I took the first stats class in my first semester... lots of stuff has changed in me since then.

Zac

[Rollin on Dubs]

I did pretty well in all of my classes. I had a Photo class that the instructor and I did not see eye to eye on everthing. He was this Libral artsie type who wanted pictures of this abstract art, and well i just wanted to take pictures of cars and cars doing burnouts and wheelies and such. In the end i still got a decent grade, I just didint plan on taking so many pictures of trees, creeks and rocks.

[AutoMods]

My wife's advisor at Allen College screwed up on her scheduling and she had to go another semester. She had to pay for another semester and lose 6 months of a better income she would've got if she graduated earlier.

We were pissed, I wonder if you could ever file a lawsuit on the colloge or advisor for stuff like that.

Always double check scheduling and graduation/transfer requirements yourself !!

[Drifte]

i check and double check what i need to graduate. I am actually planning to meet with my adviser again at UNI, because he really doesn't have a clue what im supposed to be in. No one untill this semester had even checked to see if i met prerequisites to transfer as a junior.

right now my intro to business class (which im taking after several other business classes..wtf) i completely ignore the teacher, and just read in class. soft spoken indian...

[Nicolaskl]

I did about a year at Kirkwood (and then went back for Calc II because I knew it'd be easier there than IA) and every single class I took, even the bullshit ones I took for fun (like photography and intro to HTML) transferred and satisfied a requirement for my degree (didn't get counted as electives).