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Stro

01-14-2007, 10:13 AM

I've been building up the parts for a swap, i'm almost done. All I need is an oil pan and a non vtec head. Heres what shes getting.

Its an A6 block thats been honed and hot tanked
Eagle connecting rods
Vitara pistons
AEM Tru Time cam gear
AEM Tru Power Pulleys
APEXi SAFC
Autometer Led guages
SPEC Kevlar Clutch
The Turbo kit was put together by Krustindumm

http://photos-259.facebook.com/ip002/v61/1/110/71806228/n71806228_30731259_2495.jpg
^Current setup

http://photos-275.facebook.com/ip002/v61/1/110/71806228/n71806228_30731275_8444.jpg
^The Block

http://photos-279.facebook.com/ip002/v61/1/110/71806228/n71806228_30731279_9476.jpg
^Rods

http://photos-723.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v61/1/110/71806228/n71806228_30755723_6464.jpg
^Yeah, blue.

http://photos-724.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v61/1/110/71806228/n71806228_30755724_6711.jpg
^Yeah, it matches.

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http://photos-726.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v61/1/110/71806228/n71806228_30755726_7253.jpg

http://photos-730.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v61/1/110/71806228/n71806228_30755730_8315.jpg
^One side is black the other is polished, Stealth or show?

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OneSlowCRX

01-14-2007, 01:20 PM

Looks Like We should Race this spring for some $$$$$$

Stro

01-14-2007, 06:39 PM

For right now, i'd just like to get the project done, and i haven't really started.

RandomHero

01-14-2007, 08:51 PM

when do you want everything done? is this going to be a weekend project, in a friday night and out a monday morning?

lil krumm

01-14-2007, 09:30 PM

when do you want everything done? is this going to be a weekend project, in a friday night and out a monday morning?

HA shit never works that way.

never.

Ricky

01-14-2007, 09:58 PM

that would be nice if it did but yeah there is always something

Stro

01-15-2007, 07:21 AM

With my luck and this car, it would be nice to do in a weekend, or even try, but its not going to happen.

OneSlowCRX

01-15-2007, 07:22 AM

If your Gonna Run over 15psi I suggest making your block a solid Deck cause after 15psi your cylnder's walls start moving around in there water jacket. Just some helpful advice

~Brent

StreetSweeper

01-15-2007, 10:39 AM

Thats a prety neat little turbo manifold setup.. I would tape that off, and spray it with HIGH temp black ceramic paint like i did on my cars.. It will deffinentaly look tits.. Then find a chrome heat sheild and BLING BLING!

Deffinentaly show that front mount.. Not to many hondas have them. so i would be strutten that stuff.

Drifte

01-15-2007, 11:04 AM

as for boost he intends a mild 9psi. maybe 12. We had a deck guard or whatever you wanna call it, but they sent a guard for a b16. So it probably wont get a guard...

george where'd you get ceramic paint at?

TbTalon94

01-15-2007, 12:44 PM

Stro...if we gather a few of us together, it can be done in a weekend. I turboed my Talon by myself in like a week..including swapping the pistons, head, and all kinds of shit.

If me, you, eric, tyler, the krumms...got together we could do it in no-time.

Drifte

01-15-2007, 12:49 PM

lets do it spring break if you have all the parts, and wiring together. safc 2 could be wired in anytime now.

Stro

01-15-2007, 01:21 PM

Awsome, then Drifte, you should go over all my stuff and make sure I've got everything I need.

OneSlowCRX

01-15-2007, 04:55 PM

My Buddy wants to know what you are doin with the Y8 is said he would throw some cash at ya if you wanna get rid of it.

OneSlowCRX

01-15-2007, 04:57 PM

Oh and we got a d16a6 just lying around collecting dust if you are lookin for a back up has 82k on it doesnt smoke or anything good clean motor

StreetSweeper

01-15-2007, 08:54 PM

You can buy that paint at Autozone. It comes in like a brass colored can, and it's high heat ceramic paint.. Realy makes manifolds look good. Pluss ive had mine glowing and it still didnt eat the paint away.

TbTalon94

01-16-2007, 07:37 AM

Lol that's because you drive your car like once a week.

If you drive the car everyday, that paint will peel off. It's repeated heat cycles that makes it flake, not a few hot runs.

Drifte

01-16-2007, 12:03 PM

yeah that stuff doesnt last, not even on heat shields. atleast not for turbo applications. i thought you had found some rattle can form of ceramic paint.

boxmakingman

01-17-2007, 02:30 PM

Stro, if you guys are putting that together and need a part or something, give me a call I have a lot of little junk laying around you might need.

I want to see this car done, I think it will be the first turbo honda done right in the group.

drex's and krustins just blow up.

TbTalon94

01-17-2007, 02:43 PM

true that ^^

Drifte

01-17-2007, 04:27 PM

right now definatly taking suggestions on wideband and other tuning needs.

TbTalon94

01-18-2007, 07:42 AM

plx wideband is grand. Simple connections, very accurate, pretty cheap and the box/gauge is easy to read. I had 2 different ones my white gsx and they worked awesome...and i'm sure it's still working awesome.

You can get one with a box that reads out a digital display, or one with a gauge that has a LED sweep as well as a digital display.

Are you guys just going AFC...no ecu mods?

Ricky

01-18-2007, 09:19 AM

i think dustin was going to make a chip for him

JustinS

01-18-2007, 09:33 AM

What size downpipe are you going to run? Looks like it will be a pretty nice setup when you are done!

Drifte

01-18-2007, 10:05 AM

probablt 2.5". hes got some awesome exhaust on it right now that id hate to see wasted for something a little bigger. i'll probably come up with a DP and ditch the cat.

Ricky

01-18-2007, 10:34 AM

its barely a cat as it is anyhow

lil krumm

01-18-2007, 01:46 PM

its barely a cat as it is anyhow

yea i remeber getting blamed for that problem

Drifte

01-18-2007, 03:10 PM

Ricky

01-18-2007, 09:26 PM

me too.

TbTalon94

01-19-2007, 09:04 AM

yet to do.

management, block guard..mayba', mount ex waste gate, fab DP, recirc waste gate 18"+ from turbo, mount fmic, headstuds, figure out wtf doin with vtec, finish charge pipe,wire safc, wire gauges, gap new rings for one last piston...

i hope thats it

management, block guard definatly, ex wastegate, dp, why 18" from the turbo?, fmic, headstuds, non-vtec head (keep it simple), charge piping, wire afc/gauges, gap new rings...install clutch?

JustinS

01-21-2007, 10:28 AM

Sounds like it is going to be a nice little setup for you Stro, what are your hp goals?

Stutz

01-22-2007, 04:15 PM

Good luck with it, seems like a nice project.

Drifte

01-23-2007, 12:23 PM

i'll jump in again and say its a DD built to handle big power, with plans of running little. something around 250hp.

his block guard is on the way!

TbTalon94

01-23-2007, 02:00 PM

go for 300hp. It sounds better.

Stro

01-23-2007, 03:19 PM

I would love to get 300 on a daily driver, but i'm just hoping to have it running reliable.

Drifte

01-24-2007, 12:22 PM

dsm 300hp is expected. a sohc all aluminum honda hears 200hp and poops a hammer.

TbTalon94

01-25-2007, 08:48 AM

LoL poops a hammers. That made me giggle.

It can be done. With proper tuning it shall run around with 300hp.

Stro

01-25-2007, 02:28 PM

No pooping hammers allowed.

Drifte

01-25-2007, 02:54 PM

fart cans pooping hammers. maybe even hatchets.

Ricky

01-30-2007, 10:47 PM

a hatchet would cause permanent damage. i think.

Drifte

02-14-2007, 11:23 AM

stro whats the word you stil collecting parts? dont give up!

lil krumm

02-14-2007, 02:37 PM

dammit stro lets get this shit done already

JustinS

02-14-2007, 03:28 PM

Yea, damnit Stro get this ish done lol.

Ricky

02-14-2007, 10:25 PM

needs to be warmer and some people need to be free then im guess we will be all over it :)

Drifte

02-21-2007, 08:17 PM

since stro has gone invisible i'll have to talk to him (or YOU) through here.

need a fuel pump and regulator. need to wire injector resistor pack, and put injectors in. wire in safc at the same time and run it like that for a while.

hmm get that front mount mounted. need a grinder, cutting wheels, some metal, and a welder. should be cake.

need to get together to figure out what parts you need. i havnt figured out whats best for managemnt.

Ricky

02-21-2007, 09:10 PM

when you coming back colton? we could get a lot done if it stays this warm

krustindumm

02-21-2007, 10:23 PM

you do not need a fuel pump or regulator, and the only management you NEED is that VAFC and some 450's. You can retard your base timing a few degrees and you should be safe.

Drifte

02-22-2007, 10:13 AM

cept hes got an safc. when we swappin heads dustin?

krustindumm

02-23-2007, 06:32 AM

safc will work too, what about swapping heads?

Drifte

02-26-2007, 10:12 AM

i heard you were giving stro a non vtec head. None of us want to mess around with vtec.

whats the stock fuel pump rated for? I figure with this setup hes going to be in the 13psi range at times. We have yet to wire in the injector resistor box if you want to show me the best way to do that.

krustindumm

02-26-2007, 04:03 PM

keep using the stock pump till it starts going lean. I think they are good for 200-250 whp.

Yeah, i'll give him that head, but it's not really going to change anything for you. Since his car is already VTEC the only difference will be that there will be two unused plugs if you use the non-vtec head.

here's pics of how to do the resistor box.
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=517274

Drifte

02-26-2007, 04:43 PM

so your saying his vtec head just needs unplugged, and it wont cause any trouble..

krustindumm

02-26-2007, 09:59 PM

it won't cause any trouble plugged in either, but the compression will be higher.

Drifte

02-26-2007, 10:48 PM

but we have to tune around the vtec engagement. word on the street vtec + boost = bad

TbTalon94

02-27-2007, 08:50 AM

Like i said before. Set a day aside where we all can meet up and crack this bitch out of the park. Get some drinks and we'll be golden. It can be had in one day...with a few knowledgeable people doing things.

RandomHero

02-27-2007, 03:15 PM

ill buy drinks!! and sit and drink them and make fun of you all.

Drifte

02-27-2007, 04:07 PM

as long as you share...point and laugh all you want!

krustindumm

02-27-2007, 05:12 PM

but we have to tune around the vtec engagement. word on the street vtec + boost = bad

VTEC is just switching to a different cam lobe. With a V-AFC there are seperate maps for in & out of VTEC, on the S-AFC there are not, but it should be no big deal since VTEC pretty much always engages at the same RPM.

Ricky

02-27-2007, 10:46 PM

so at the point that v-tec engages we just have to compensate for the higher cam lob? so at the rpm we need to have it dump more fuel? correct me if im wrong but i think thats what your saying.

TbTalon94

02-28-2007, 07:49 AM

Yea your on the right track Eric. Tuning around V-tec shouldn't be to hard. Many of people do it with great results.

The vtec is going to engage at the same rpm just like dustin said, so tuning would be pretty easy. It's a constant variable just like rpms. We'd tune for spool (not like it's going to take long), boost/torque hit, then the transition to vtec, and so on. The tune may look kind of goofy on the AFC but it'll work.

krustindumm

02-28-2007, 11:16 AM

The ECM already compensates for the most part too, and since the AFC is making % corrections on the stock fuel map, I doubt there will be much difference between out of vs in VTEC.

Drifte

02-28-2007, 11:42 AM

obviously its up to stro. but i kinda like the idea of a nice clean NO vtecin motor. wonder what the difference in cost for bigger cams is.

Ricky

02-28-2007, 12:59 PM

i say if it will work then why not keep it?

krustindumm

02-28-2007, 04:55 PM

bout $80 for a delta regrind for anything.

Drifte

02-28-2007, 07:14 PM

cant have any down time. any other way to do it.

Stro

03-03-2007, 09:24 AM

As of now the ENTIRE project is on hold. I'll keep everyone informed.

lil krumm

03-03-2007, 10:50 AM

did i miss something?

TbTalon94

03-04-2007, 10:01 AM

What happened?

Ricky

03-04-2007, 10:01 AM

lil krumm

03-04-2007, 01:05 PM

im with eric on this one :(

Stro

03-04-2007, 05:01 PM

So in the last most recent snow/ice/slush/shittyassweather storm we had. I was headed out of Ely and I hit a snow drift in the middle of the road. I slid off the right hand side of the road into the ditch, into the back of another ditched car. I've got an insurance adjuster coming to look at it hopefully early this week, but I am pretty sure the car is totaled. I haven't even talked to my insurance agent yet and i'm already looking into a new car.

Ashley

03-04-2007, 05:03 PM

you and zac should get together and share stories about hitting snowdrifts in the middle of the road :)

but honestly, that sucks pretty bad. hopefully you can find something you like better though?

Ricky

03-04-2007, 07:09 PM

its messed up pretty bad :( but hes got some cars hes looking at :)

Drifte

03-04-2007, 09:49 PM

civic gettin stripped of all awesome parts :)

im guessing a lot of stuff goin up for sale honda lovers.

JustinS

03-04-2007, 09:59 PM

That sucks that you wrecked it, I had similar situation awhile back but I was on perfectly clear roads. Woops!

So what car is next for you?

TbTalon94

03-05-2007, 08:08 AM

you want a 97 talon? with some mods?

Ricky

03-05-2007, 09:56 AM

post some pics of the aftermath stro!

Stro

03-05-2007, 09:27 PM

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Drifte

03-05-2007, 09:33 PM

just say no to braking

its a terrible loss. it will be morned for ..untill a new one.

lil krumm

03-05-2007, 09:34 PM

those headlights actually still look good?? theres still alot of good parts there, make some money off that shit stro.

Ricky

03-05-2007, 09:40 PM

it will be missed :( many good times in that car

Stutz

03-05-2007, 09:44 PM

Thats pretty shitty luck to go into the ditch AND hit a car already there

Stro

03-06-2007, 04:20 PM

What pisses me off is that her car isn't even that bad. She needs a new muffler, muffler hanger, and bumper cover. All that shit can be picked up off of ebay or advance for between $200 and $250 dollars. GAY! and my car may be totaled. If it was a truck instead of a car, i may not be here now.