HELP! New to the turbo world!

[83s10v8]

Hey Guys, I'm in the process of selling the ole school 421. I bought a LQ4 w/317 heads on it the otherday for a steal... I'm thinking about going with the S480 Turbo. I'm going to mainly keep a stock bottom end. I was going to get a set of forged pistons, an ls6 cam, and work the heads... Im really trying to decide,,, should i used fuel injection or get a blow thru carb, I'm looking at most cost effective right now. as im going to see if i can run faster with an LS turbo, than i could with the 421 for half the money.

Please help. im totally new to all of this stuff.

[AutoMods]

how much horsepower are you trying to make? let me know if you want a quote. I can get the BW, turbonetics, pte and garrett . the bw is cheap, but it is a heavy bastard at 48 pounds. I took this picutre a couple days ago. the one on the left is a 7875 bb turbonetics @ 18 pounds. the smaller one will hit almost 1000whp while the s480 will do 1200whp. those #'s are with a manual. you can make the same power as the BW with a smaller pte turbo and spool faster but it won't be as cheap.

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[AutoMods]

the turbo on the left is not a small turbo. but just looks small next to the BW

[derek072887]

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another picture for size reference

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Go with a borg warner. The turbine size is great for power production. There are guys running the billet s400 76mms in the 5 teens at 140 with only 347ci. I am personally running a 76billet and have a e3 billet 6 blade s400 80mm on its way.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

The borgwarners spool fast even with 347ci and a 1.39 ar and 96mm turbine wheel.

[AutoMods]

sam, fyi the s480 and s475 are really nicknames but they are both variations of what BW calls the s400 series. BW does not use the s480, s475 terminology. also garrett and BW always size turbine wheel by inducer while pte and turbonetics size by the exducer side.


I am personally running a 76billet and have a e3 billet 6 blade s400 80mm on its way.

The borgwarners spool fast even with 347ci and a 1.39 ar and 96mm turbine wheel.

I thought your car wasn't done yet?

Some of the BW turbos like the std cast s480 have turbine wheels that are abnormally large compared to their compressor wheels. I'm not sure but perhaps because they were originally designed for diesels? While this is ultimately good at making peak power, it seems as though your giving up a lot of response to gain a little more power. not as big of a deal on a drag auto car but important on a street car, especially a manual. the s480 also has a monster 5.5 comp inlet and a 5" vband turbine outlet and only makes 1200whp peak. All you need is a 4" comp inlet and 4" vband turbine out.

If you look at a lot of PTE and turbonetics line up, their turbine wheels are close in size to their comp wheels and often times the comp wheel will be larger then the turbine wheel (first 2 digits are comp mm, 2nd two are turbine mm) 7668, 7675, 8284, 8884, 8891 etc.

now a lot of vendors offer all sorts of new BW combinations, custom wheels, custom housings. but some of the original off the shelf (aka cheapest) BW turbos have some odd wheel sizes for a gas vehicle and are physically over-sized for the power they make .... but people love them because they are really cheap for a t6 turbo.

[AutoMods]

I sold the above BW turbo for $1100, you cant beat the price but damn I'd pay a few hundred more to get better spool and not have to fit that monster into my rx7.

[snickerlicker]

Put an XB105 on it, much better set-up.

[RedRocketZ28]

A properly spec'd Borg Warner will put out quite a bit more power than the Precision 7675 or Turbonetics 76 or 7875 on a 6.0L. I have a S480 1.10 ar 92mm on the way for my car. The Turbonetics 7875 on my LQ4 hated life at anything above 16-17 lbs. The backpressure had to be up there really high. Through a 4L80e unlocked it made 677/626 on 16-17 lbs and power nosed off hard after 5700 rpm. It got to the point where throwing more boost at it was doing very little. A 7675 is just too small for 6.0L. The BW will take me well beyond that and spool will be quick with a 2.25" divided hotside.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

The e3 6 blade billet 80 I'm getting is rated for 1400plus whp.

[83s10v8]

how much horsepower are you trying to make? let me know if you want a quote. I can get the BW, turbonetics, pte and garrett . the bw is cheap, but it is a heavy bastard at 48 pounds. I took this picutre a couple days ago. the one on the left is a 7875 bb turbonetics @ 18 pounds. the smaller one will hit almost 1000whp while the s480 will do 1200whp. those #'s are with a manual. you can make the same power as the BW with a smaller pte turbo and spool faster but it won't be as cheap.

1505


700-1000? more if possible? Im going to try to get the LQ4 to about550-600 range N/A.. Hell ill take a quote on all of them if you want. Im totally new to this stuff.

[83s10v8]

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another picture for size reference


ill take em both! hahaha

[AutoMods]

A properly spec'd Borg Warner will put out quite a bit more power than the Precision 7675 or Turbonetics 76 or 7875 on a 6.0L. I have a S480 1.10 ar 92mm on the way for my car. The Turbonetics 7875 on my LQ4 hated life at anything above 16-17 lbs. The backpressure had to be up there really high. Through a 4L80e unlocked it made 677/626 on 16-17 lbs and power nosed off hard after 5700 rpm. It got to the point where throwing more boost at it was doing very little. A 7675 is just too small for 6.0L. The BW will take me well beyond that and spool will be quick with a 2.25" divided hotside.

Yea the s480 will make more power for sure, its a good amount larger. I wouldn't say the 7675 is too small for the 6.0 as we both have ran 9's with it and its probably the quickest spooling turbo for 9's on our motors. I plan to play with it longer. With a good 60' I should be mid 9 with the same 150mph trap. and we'll see what happens when i turn the boost up more. but if your looking to run 8's with a heavier car you will need more. and I'm sure the OP sam will shoot for 8's.

I know this rx7 guy, zbrown, has a 6.0 ls and 7675 and ran a 9.2 http://s784.photobucket.com/user/SS-Jon/media/VIDEO0008.mp4.html probably weighs what a fox body does

[83s10v8]

A properly spec'd Borg Warner will put out quite a bit more power than the Precision 7675 or Turbonetics 76 or 7875 on a 6.0L. I have a S480 1.10 ar 92mm on the way for my car. The Turbonetics 7875 on my LQ4 hated life at anything above 16-17 lbs. The backpressure had to be up there really high. Through a 4L80e unlocked it made 677/626 on 16-17 lbs and power nosed off hard after 5700 rpm. It got to the point where throwing more boost at it was doing very little. A 7675 is just too small for 6.0L. The BW will take me well beyond that and spool will be quick with a 2.25" divided hotside.

I rreally appreciate all the replies! ive asked around on who to talk to about this, and it led me back to this forum, and automods, and redrocketz28. but i hear automods is doing it with a blow thru, like i would like to do....

[83s10v8]

Yea the s480 will make more power for sure, its a good amount larger. I wouldn't say the 7675 is too small for the 6.0 as we both have ran 9's with it and its probably the quickest spooling turbo for 9's on our motors. I plan to play with it longer. With a good 60' I should be mid 9 with the same 150mph trap. and we'll see what happens when i turn the boost up more. but if your looking to run 8's with a heavier car you will need more. and I'm sure the OP sam will shoot for 8's.


I know this rx7 guy, zbrown, has a 6.0 ls and 7675 and ran a 9.2 http://s784.photobucket.com/user/SS-Jon/media/VIDEO0008.mp4.html probably weighs what a fox body does


I'm at 2900 raceweight

[AutoMods]

but i hear automods is doing it with a blow thru, like i would like to do....

no, i'm efi, stock ls6 intake manifold, stock throttle body

[83s10v8]

no, i'm efi, stock ls6 intake manifold, stock throttle body

oh ok! haha.. what do you use for ignition?

I jus hear doing a turbo with efi is pretty costly and using a blow thru is quite a bit cheaper..

[derek072887]

oh ok! haha.. what do you use for ignition?

I jus hear doing a turbo with efi is pretty costly and using a blow thru is quite a bit cheaper..

Use stock ignition, stock computer, buy some injectors. I'd assume your S10 has enough room to even run a truck manifold which will save you a couple hundred right there.

If you go blow through you will need an intake mani, carb, and possibly a different ignition system.

[RedRocketZ28]

If only my car weighed 2900 lbs...

I just don't think my 7875 would have taken me much further. I am tickled pink to be in the 9's but we always want more. I am doing the swap for not much money out of my pocket and I wanted to clean up the engine bay a bit anyway. Win win in my book! I won't be able to push the stock bottom end and stock trans too far, but I will have the turbo to do so once I have everything squared away.

In your case, I would seriously look into a properly spec'd BW turbo. Seeing as your truck is track only, you will greatly appreciate the power. I would browse LS1tech and Yellow Bullet to see what guys are doing with the Borg Warner stuff.

[Deimos]

oh ok! haha.. what do you use for ignition?

I jus hear doing a turbo with efi is pretty costly and using a blow thru is quite a bit cheaper..

I said automods can point you in the right direction to run a carbed ls I never said ryan was running a carb. Btw ray is selling his efi setup iirc. He also has a hell of a deal on the ams 1000.

[StreetSweeper]

Don't waste your time doing a blow threw set up. If your going turbo go EFI. If you want to spray run a carb. Blow threw set ups are fucking JUNK!

[83s10v8]

Don't waste your time doing a blow threw set up. If your going turbo go EFI. If you want to spray run a carb. Blow threw set ups are fucking JUNK!


good to know.. what ignition/tuning shit would i have to get/run?

[83s10v8]

I said automods can point you in the right direction to run a carbed ls I never said ryan was running a carb. Btw ray is selling his efi setup iirc. He also has a hell of a deal on the ams 1000.

sorry deimos! haha misunderstood ya

[RedRocketZ28]

I'd rock a Holley EFI setup.

[derek072887]

good to know.. what ignition/tuning shit would i have to get/run?

If you are buying an LS based engine get the entire engine with wiring harness and ecu, get Hptuners, or EFI live for tuning of the stock ECU.

[83s10v8]

If you are buying an LS based engine get the entire engine with wiring harness and ecu, get Hptuners, or EFI live for tuning of the stock ECU.

yup i got all that... ill have to look into the holley, hp, and efi live stuff.. see which one is "retard" friendly. lol

[83s10v8]

would i get shot in the face if i used this turbo.... ive read some guys are makin some pretty good power with them..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-GT45-TURBO-TURBOCHARGER-COMPRESSOR-V-BAND-1000-HP-CAPABLE-UPGRADE-T4-BIG-/110896613896?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d1f40a08&vxp=mtr

[83s10v8]

?eh? http://www.ebay.com/itm/T88-T4-Twin-Scroll-Turbocharger-Turbo-Charger-Supra-Mustang-RB-2JZ-LS-1JZ-/141022421083?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20d597605b&vxp=mtr

[AutoMods]

would i get shot in the face if i used this turbo....

for sure. thinking about banning you just because you asked

[skipdownstairs]

What rods does it have are they the light rods with floater pins or the heavy dimple rods with floater pins?? I know the year brake is 05 on up for the 5.3 (dimple rods after 05) and I think the same for the 6 liter stuff. SBE parts with the dimple rods will let you yield as much as 1200 bhp. As far as blow through carb or fuel injection it depends on what you are going to do with it and how much power you are looking for.
Carb is ok but if you want full out laptop tuneability where you can put and take away fuel for individual cylinders go efi with data logging capabilities.
Im sure Ryan can get you close on a tune up and supply you with an awesom price on efi live which uses the stock 6.0 computer or you can go all out with a BS3 system or Holley EFI

[AutoMods]

first china turbo says its a gt45. It is nowhere near the size of a true garrett gt45 in which it stole its name.

that 2nd china turbo says its a t88 . A t88 has an 88mm compressor wheel, at the bottom of the auction it says it has a 63mm comp wheel. it makes no sense

[Deimos]

I think you should spend a few nights talking to jerry before buying much

[83s10v8]

Hey be nice guys! Haha ive learned alot in the past few days... looks like i really need to get my last years stuff sols and save for a good turbo

[83s10v8]

I will check.. it didnt a throttle body.. so i dont know if it was drive by wire or electronic.. i think they stopped the drive by wire in 02.. im assuming its an earlier one, but I will check... is there any dead giveaways? or do you jus gotta run the numbers?


What rods does it have are they the light rods with floater pins or the heavy dimple rods with floater pins?? I know the year brake is 05 on up for the 5.3 (dimple rods after 05) and I think the same for the 6 liter stuff. SBE parts with the dimple rods will let you yield as much as 1200 bhp. As far as blow through carb or fuel injection it depends on what you are going to do with it and how much power you are looking for.
Carb is ok but if you want full out laptop tuneability where you can put and take away fuel for individual cylinders go efi with data logging capabilities.
Im sure Ryan can get you close on a tune up and supply you with an awesom price on efi live which uses the stock 6.0 computer or you can go all out with a BS3 system or Holley EFI

[83s10v8]

whats the prices for efi live?!


first china turbo says its a gt45. It is nowhere near the size of a true garrett gt45 in which it stole its name.

that 2nd china turbo says its a t88 . A t88 has an 88mm compressor wheel, at the bottom of the auction it says it has a 63mm comp wheel. it makes no sense

[AutoMods]

whats the prices for efi live?!

I can do $800 for efilive v2

[83s10v8]

sounds good man.. trying to sell my short block stuff.. then ill let ya know

[AutoMods]

The Turbonetics 7875 on my LQ4 hated life at anything above 16-17 lbs. The backpressure had to be up there really high. Through a 4L80e unlocked it made 677/626 on 16-17 lbs and power nosed off hard after 5700 rpm. It got to the point where throwing more boost at it was doing very little. A 7675 is just too small for 6.0L. The BW will take me well beyond that and spool will be quick with a 2.25" divided hotside.

can you post up your dyno of the 7875?

[skipdownstairs]

I think ryan knows what to look for on the outside head numbers for example. I know what to look for on the 5.3 stuff but not the 6.o stuff if you have doubts zip off the pan and windage tray and look for a dimple on one side of the rod.

[RedRocketZ28]

can you post up your dyno of the 7875?

I will try to get that done. I never posted it because that's the same night the transmission "slipped" into reverse. The 677 pull was after it was thrown into reverse as well, so I am guessing the trans wasn't in the best of moods.

[83s10v8]

that i did! found out some really good news... turns out its a 6.0 HO LQ9. bought the motor for $300. needless to say i was super happy. yes it does have the dimple on one side of the rod. I guess the pistons are the same as the LS2?... found the low compression problem.. a couple of the rings where stuck in the piston... pistons themselves look great.. I think ill throw a set of forged pistons in it, and have the block bored .030..


I think ryan knows what to look for on the outside head numbers for example. I know what to look for on the 5.3 stuff but not the 6.o stuff if you have doubts zip off the pan and windage tray and look for a dimple on one side of the rod.

[83s10v8]

wow. did you stomach fall through your ass when that happened? damn. i would a been shittin.


I will try to get that done. I never posted it because that's the same night the transmission "slipped" into reverse. The 677 pull was after it was thrown into reverse as well, so I am guessing the trans wasn't in the best of moods.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Junk yard dog pistons are available now.

[skipdownstairs]

Awesome! Yeah Weisco will have the junkyard dog forged pistons for that. Looks like your on your way to having a nice piece


that i did! found out some really good news... turns out its a 6.0 HO LQ9. bought the motor for $300. needless to say i was super happy. yes it does have the dimple on one side of the rod. I guess the pistons are the same as the LS2?... found the low compression problem.. a couple of the rings where stuck in the piston... pistons themselves look great.. I think ill throw a set of forged pistons in it, and have the block bored .030..

[AutoMods]

if you do stock rods you will spend $100 on arp rod bolts.

or you can just buy forged eagle rods for only $475 and it will come with an even stronger arp rod bolt. i think the aftermarket rods allow for a larger diameter rod bolt. either that or something else in the design makes the bolts stronger with the aftermarket rod. slow ride mentioned it before.

imo, if you going to tear into it, do it once, do it right

[RedRocketZ28]

How do the cylinder walls look with the damaged rings? If you can rock the stock pistons and rods for now and are looking to save money, that's what I would do. From my research, and talking with my tuner, it's the rods that let go, not the pistons. More likely to bend a rod than trash a piston. If the tuneup is good, you can run the stock bottom end for quite some time. My LQ4 has the older style rods and pistons in it and it has taken everything I have thrown at it so far.

Like Ryan said though, if you are going to do anything now, do it all at once. Let me know if you do, I'd be interested in the pistons and rods :).

[skipdownstairs]

I call bullshit on the rods failing

[skipdownstairs]

hell throw a crank in there while your at it

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Lol

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Andy lets break out the old stock rodded girl for some tuning runs on the dyno with the turbo shit. Lol

[RedRocketZ28]

Call all the bullshit you want, it happens. I know of several people who have bent Gen IV rods. Like I said though, if the tuneup is good then the bottom end should last a long time on the Gen IV stuff. The guys I know of who did bend them were pushing them hard. Stock bottom end 5.3 with 28 lbs. and 24* of timing wont last long. Obviously not the norm for most peoples tuneup's.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Lol 28 psi of boost ain't shit. Those rods handled 40plus psi with over 50 plus passes

[RedRocketZ28]

Mike that isn't the norm and you know that. Some people get lucky, others do not.

[slow ride]

Some people run 1/8th mile and some do long pulls on the street, it's all different. I can't think of anyone else running alcohol on a stock bottom end either and it's not like you are seeing any detonation on that fuel. Rattle a stock bottom end on gas and it could come apart much quicker and lower power levels. It is sweet how far Andy has gone on that stocker though :)

[AutoMods]

i've talked to this guy couple times online, lq9 rod failure on a mixture of pump and race gas around 700whp, claims he is a good tuner, http://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-results/1167099-lq9-stock-long-block-pt88-turbo-6-32-109-55-a.html

there is all sorts of ls failures out there, lots of pistons ring land failures as well as rod failures, lots of success stories too http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1056169-stock-bottom-boost-reliability-list.html

I know the lq9 rods are a bit stroger than the lq4 and older 5.3 rods. Andy, were the rods in your newer 5.3 suppose to be better than the lq9 and ls2 rods or equal to them?

[OldSkoolRCR]

I got a nice set of the LQ9 dimpel rods for sale if anyone needs them.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

The floating pin rods are all the same.

[slow ride]

I've seen slight differences in the beam or the larger size rods, but pretty much the same weight/size etc.

[skipdownstairs]

Oh jeez I guess we will have to dig it out from under the bench again what do you say in 3 weeks we can make it a go bring your turbos fuel and ignition system and let her hump

Andy lets break out the old stock rodded girl for some tuning runs on the dyno with the turbo shit. Lol

[skipdownstairs]

Your very right tune up is everything and fuel as well SBE stuff wont take detonation for long with these not in order

Call all the bullshit you want, it happens. I know of several people who have bent Gen IV rods. Like I said though, if the tuneup is good then the bottom end should last a long time on the Gen IV stuff. The guys I know of who did bend them were pushing them hard. Stock bottom end 5.3 with 28 lbs. and 24* of timing wont last long. Obviously not the norm for most peoples tuneup's.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Oh jeez I guess we will have to dig it out from under the bench again what do you say in 3 weeks we can make it a go bring your turbos fuel and ignition system and let her hump

Lol

[AutoMods]

http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iv-internal-engine/1198850-stock-ls2-connecting-rod-strength.html

[83s10v8]

Junk yard dog pistons are available now.

I'M selling my stock pistons! haha

[83s10v8]

would some good rod bolts help the situation? or would that be a waste of money?

[AutoMods]

would some good rod bolts help the situation? or would that be a waste of money?

for stock rods, you will need arp rod bolts $100 + $100 in machine work to resize them properly after the arp's distort the big end + $70 extra because the wiseco junkyard pistons cost more than the std ls1 pistons designed for aftermarket rods = $270 total

or you could take that $270 and add another $200 and have paid for a stronger set of forged eagle rods with arp 2000 bolts

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Just put the bolts in and go. Make sure you get a bolt stretch gauge.

[RedRocketZ28]

No need for aftermarket rod bolts unless you are spinning it insanely high, which you won't need to. I made the mistake of taking my bottom end apart when I first got my engine to inspect it and for piece of mind. I replaced the bearings and put new stock rod bolts back in it. Should have saved the money and left it alone.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

They say the katech rod bolts can be installed without resizing and are comparable in strength to ar2000s...not sure how much truth there is to that

[slow ride]

Things like that should always be measured in my book, but many people do get away with it so YMMV. I'd just run the stockers if you are not turning over 7000 rpm.

[83s10v8]

a turbo has been bought! also, getting the 6.0 punched out .30 over, throwing some forged pistons in it, and calling the short block good.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

what turbo did you end up going with? If you went cheap, at least hope you went with On3P or got yourself a junkyard Garrett/Holset/BW etc...

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Its top secret

[Deimos]

Top secret huh. Do I know it?

[83s10v8]

Yes... top secret haha... not a cheapo

[AutoMods]

Yes... top secret haha... not a cheapo

let me guess, you bought this one

http://iowaautoforums.com/customavatars/avatar907_1.gif

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Nope

[83s10v8]

What would be the ideal compression ratio for this set up??? also.. would the stock timing chain keep it together, or would a double timing chain be a must?

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

If its on gas run 8.5-9.1. A new ls2 chain would work great as long as your not running a lot of spring pressure.

[83s10v8]

ok, i think im going to throw in an order for some pistons.. and i am prolly gunna end up running my buddies LS6 cam.. i think his springs are good for .575 or .600.. ill confirm that



If its on gas run 8.5-9.1. A new ls2 chain would work great as long as your not running a lot of spring pressure.

[83s10v8]

im looking at either

SRP 287996
or
Wiseco K444X3

[83s10v8]

or should i just roll with the good ole stock style pistons like andy, and put good rings on them?

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

i would.

[Deimos]

Turbo the stocker and build up one of these in the winter.. http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-blocks/chevy-small-blocks/ls-next-block.html

[LS1NOVA]

Didnt read through the whole thing but Id go with:

Wiseco pistons
Eagle, Scat, or Compstar rods (budget friendly)
Ebay head studs
LS9 gaskets
Brian Tooley Racing dual springs and pushrods
Lil Johns Motorsports Solutions custom cam
stock truck intake
stock tb
2.25 hotside
BW S476R billet wheel
Holley EFI (saves you from buying hi imp injectors, boost controller, wideband)

[sLoWnStEaDy]

You should start a new thread called "IAF builds me a motor". Research amd build what you think best suites your needs. Or get on one of the dozens of LS forums and copy one of the hundreds of proven builds on them. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, they're all a little different and the majority of them are shitty.... ;-)

[LS1NOVA]

You should start a new thread called "IAF builds me a motor". Research amd build what you think best suites your needs. Or get on one of the dozens of LS forums and copy one of the hundreds of proven builds on them. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, they're all a little different and the majority of them are shitty.... ;-)

Part of the research is exactly this. You start a thread, everyone chimes in, you determine what makes sense to you and go with it.

BTW, that will be one fast S-10!!

[sLoWnStEaDy]

You're right... there are hardly any turbo LS threads/builds on the net, always best to just make one asking the same questions that have been answered a million times.

[Sleepy]

If people didn't care to give a hand with their first hand experiance they wouldn't reply. wtf does it matter if he is asking questions?

[LS1NOVA]

You're right... there are hardly any turbo LS threads/builds on the net, always best to just make one asking the same questions that have been answered a million times.


Well that settles it. No more turbo LS questions ever again. Its old news, lol.

OP dont come back with any more questions unless its how to get more fuel pressure out of your direct injected LTjuan.

[83s10v8]

Nathan do u remember the truck last year at cfr at midnight mania? We were in the final run off.



Part of the research is exactly this. You start a thread, everyone chimes in, you determine what makes sense to you and go with it.

BTW, that will be one fast S-10!!

[83s10v8]

Yeah.. i kinda thought thats what a forum was for.....



If people didn't care to give a hand with their first hand experiance they wouldn't reply. wtf does it matter if he is asking questions?

[derek072887]

Didnt read through the whole thing but Id go with:

Wiseco pistons
Eagle, Scat, or Compstar rods (budget friendly)
Ebay head studs
LS9 gaskets
Brian Tooley Racing dual springs and pushrods
Lil Johns Motorsports Solutions custom cam
stock truck intake
stock tb
2.25 hotside
BW S476R billet wheel
Holley EFI (saves you from buying hi imp injectors, boost controller, wideband)

What injectors do you like to run that are low imp and big enough to use on your setup? Do you find them hard to control at idle?

Also wouldn't running the stock ECU, EFIlive, hi imp injectors, boost controller, and a wideband be cheaper than Holley EFI? I understand the simplicity of having it all in one unit but my understanding is he is looking for the most cost efficient way to blow up, I mean get the truck to run faster than before.

[derek072887]

I think what slowandsteady is trying to say is it would be more beneficial for Sam (83s10v8) to go look at some other builds, come back here with some specific questions such as: "I saw a couple guys running 8.5:1 compression and some prefer 10:1 what do you guys think?" (just an example) In the long run it will help Sam be more familiar with his own setup and help him figure out issues if they were to arise in the future.

If you want someone to build a motor for you just hire someone to do it, or just go to someone specific and say "hey, tell me what to put in my motor so I can order it tomorrow."

slowandsteady has problems with wording things so they don't come off as him being an asshole... or he really is just an asshole... Most likely the latter.... lol

[LS1NOVA]

Yep, remember the truck. Badass little ride. Should go easy 8's with more power. We'll have to run em again at CF.



Right now Im using Trick Flow 120's which are good for 1000 or so. Idles good, no issues. Ive heard the Siemems 220's are good low imp big boy injectors. Ive used the hi imp 2000's without issues too just cost too much.

The benefit of the Holley system is when he is starting from scratch its about the same price to get into the HP version vs buying everything, HPT, Efilive, all the stuff, etc. and its all in one ecu.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

Oh, we all know I'm an asshole... but yeah, mostly the way I word things I guess. I don't try to be a dick, espescially to new guys!

[83s10v8]

sounds good man! haha when i used to run midnight mania, my only competiton would be like a 12sec camaro in the finals.... then you came down and thru out a 10 second pass... I started sweatin a little bit! haha deff the toughest competition ive ever had at midnight mania!



Yep, remember the truck. Badass little ride. Should go easy 8's with more power. We'll have to run em again at CF.



Right now Im using Trick Flow 120's which are good for 1000 or so. Idles good, no issues. Ive heard the Siemems 220's are good low imp big boy injectors. Ive used the hi imp 2000's without issues too just cost too much.

The benefit of the Holley system is when he is starting from scratch its about the same price to get into the HP version vs buying everything, HPT, Efilive, all the stuff, etc. and its all in one ecu.

[83s10v8]

hahah its fine man. i shouldnt really have a whole lot more questions until i get to the computer/fuel management stuff.


Oh, we all know I'm an asshole... but yeah, mostly the way I word things I guess. I don't try to be a dick, espescially to new guys!

[sparkles]

I think what slowandsteady is trying to say is it would be more beneficial for Sam (83s10v8) to go look at some other builds, come back here with some specific questions such as: "I saw a couple guys running 8.5:1 compression and some prefer 10:1 what do you guys think?" (just an example) In the long run it will help Sam be more familiar with his own setup and help him figure out issues if they were to arise in the future.

If you want someone to build a motor for you just hire someone to do it, or just go to someone specific and say "hey, tell me what to put in my motor so I can order it tomorrow."

slowandsteady has problems with wording things so they don't come off as him being an asshole... or he really is just an asshole... Most likely the latter.... lol

Holy fuck! Did you actually post something that made sense? This is your first and only warning. Don't let it happen again.

[derek072887]

Holy fuck! Did you actually post something that made sense? This is your first and only warning. Don't let it happen again.

Your turn…..

[LS1NOVA]

sounds good man! haha when i used to run midnight mania, my only competiton would be like a 12sec camaro in the finals.... then you came down and thru out a 10 second pass... I started sweatin a little bit! haha deff the toughest competition ive ever had at midnight mania!

It was fun. Better make that thing run 8's now.

[83s10v8]

making some good headway on the LQ9 build! Cant really find anything on fuel injectors... just wanting some suggestions on what injectors to run?!?!

[LS1NOVA]

making some good headway on the LQ9 build! Cant really find anything on fuel injectors... just wanting some suggestions on what injectors to run?!?!

Ive been looking around to make a decision on this as well. Going to go with the new low imp 160's from Racetronix. Under $600 for a matched set of 8.