FS Tommy Gun 1928A1

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Yes, you read that right. No, it's not vehicle related, but I do see people post from time to time about firearms on here. I have too big of a collection, so some of my stuff must go. I have a 1928a1 with 8 extra mags. It is in near perfect condition. It's had about 250 rounds thru it, 125 of those from this weekend out at Swisher. I'd like to get 1500 obo on it. Just seeing if anyone out there wants one. I'll pull this if there's no interest.

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[skipdownstairs]

Sweet man !!!

[85XR7Project]

Very cool! Is this orig WWII Era receiver or newer production?

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Newer. I keep all of my WW2 stuff.

[Scott]

Dammit Id really like to have that :( just too much $$ whats some details on it? ITs not an actual Thompson Arms is it?

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Dammit Id really like to have that :( just too much $$ whats some details on it? ITs not an actual Thompson Arms is it?

It's an auto ordnance. It was 1500+ tax when I got it, plus each mag was 50 bucks. I'm negotiable, but not crazy :) I just always wanted one to shoot a few times, then sell off. I'm trying to raise money for an NFA version, so my collection is going to thin quickly.

[85XR7Project]

It's an auto ordnance. It was 1500+ tax when I got it, plus each mag was 50 bucks. I'm negotiable, but not crazy :) I just always wanted one to shoot a few times, then sell off. I'm trying to raise money for an NFA version, so my collection is going to thin quickly.

Class 3 license is pretty expensive. I'll talk to some guys I know and see if they'd be interested.

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Class 3 license is pretty expensive. I'll talk to some guys I know and see if they'd be interested.

You don't have to have a class 3 for NFA...as long as it's in the super secret big registration book in Washington, any old Joe can own a Class 3 as long as you carry the paperwork with you. Amnesty guns are the best chance of getting a legal WW2 full auto. Mine, obviously is semi-auto and can be owned by anyone. If you go the NFA site, it outlines common Q&A stuff when it comes to full auto.

[skipdownstairs]

Amnesty guns are the best chance of getting a legal WW2 full auto lol yeah right they are all about having people turning in their guns and smashing them from what I saw not selling them back to the public. And you cannot legally own any Class 3 weapon in the state of Iowa unless you have a class 3 FFL which you can only obtain a license if you are becoming a business in selling class 3 firearms. Also if the government doesn't see your selling enough such as you or me just buying a few to have them the ATF will pull your license and you will have 30 days to disperse your class 3 weapons, or you can live in a state such as Nebraska and pay the one time class 3 tax to own as many as you like. I myself have tried to get my hands on a class 3 FFL so I can legally own full auto shit trust me you cant do it unless its a business people have tried.

this is one of the amnesty guns
http://www.nj.gov/guns/

[SaNdMaNsSi]

Amnesty guns are the best chance of getting a legal WW2 full auto lol yeah right they are all about having people turning in their guns and smashing them from what I saw not selling them back to the public. And you cannot legally own any Class 3 weapon in the state of Iowa unless you have a class 3 FFL which you can only obtain a license if you are becoming a business in selling class 3 firearms. Also if the government doesn't see your selling enough such as you or me just buying a few to have them the ATF will pull your license and you will have 30 days to disperse your class 3 weapons, or you can live in a state such as Nebraska and pay the one time class 3 tax to own as many as you like. I myself have tried to get my hands on a class 3 FFL so I can legally own full auto shit trust me you cant do it unless its a business people have tried.

this is one of the amnesty guns
http://www.nj.gov/guns/

The amnesty guns shortly after WW2 were never crushed...they were given paperwork. As for NFA stuff, I guess I didn't realize that in Iowa. Someone I know has his paperwork in for class 3, so we'll see what happens. He runs his own gun shop out of his house, but is moving to a B&M as soon as the paperwork clears. I'm going to be buying some land for a cabin in MO, I'll have to check their laws. As long as the NFA is registered to a legal address in a legal state, I believe I'm still clear to transport it back and forth from Iowa...But it's been awhile since I've read the law.


Also, I think you're getting "amnesty" and "buyback" mixed up. "Amnesty" was back in the early 60's, when anyone that had an unregisterd NFA gun could get it registered with the government, and it was then legal to own. I have no idea why everyone didn't take part in it; I've heard of so many ww2 guns floating around without paperwork over the years.

[JustinS]

As long as the NFA is registered to a legal address in a legal state, I believe I'm still clear to transport it back and forth from Iowa...But it's been awhile since I've read the law.

Nope. Not unless you are a re-enactor and its been rendered unable to fire live ammunition and you don't possess and ammo.

Join Iowa Firearms Coalition, we are trying to change this. :)

724.1 OFFENSIVE WEAPONS.
An offensive weapon is any device or instrumentality of the
following types:
1. A machine gun. A machine gun is a firearm which shoots or is
designed to shoot more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a
single function of the trigger.
2. A short-barreled rifle or short-barreled shotgun. A
short-barreled rifle or short-barreled shotgun is a rifle with a
barrel or barrels less than sixteen inches in length or a shotgun
with a barrel or barrels less than eighteen inches in length, as
measured from the face of the closed bolt or standing breech to the
muzzle, or any rifle or shotgun with an overall length less than
twenty-six inches.
3. Any weapon other than a shotgun or muzzle loading rifle,
cannon, pistol, revolver or musket, which fires or can be made to
fire a projectile by the explosion of a propellant charge, which has
a barrel or tube with the bore of more than six-tenths of an inch in
diameter, or the ammunition or projectile therefor, but not including
antique weapons kept for display or lawful shooting.
4. A bomb, grenade, or mine, whether explosive, incendiary, or
poison gas; any rocket having a propellant charge of more than four
ounces; any missile having an explosive charge of more than
one-quarter ounce; or any device similar to any of these.
5. A ballistic knife. A ballistic knife is a knife with a
detachable blade which is propelled by a spring-operated mechanism,
elastic material, or compressed gas.
6. Any part or combination of parts either designed or intended
to be used to convert any device into an offensive weapon as
described in subsections 1 to 5 of this section, or to assemble into
such an offensive weapon, except magazines or other parts,
ammunition, or ammunition components used in common with lawful
sporting firearms or parts including but not limited to barrels
suitable for refitting to sporting firearms.
7. Any bullet or projectile containing any explosive mixture or
chemical compound capable of exploding or detonating prior to or upon
impact, or any shotshell or cartridge containing exothermic
pyrophoric misch metal as a projectile which is designed to throw or
project a flame or fireball to simulate a flamethrower.
Notwithstanding section 724.2, no person is authorized to possess
in this state a shotshell or cartridge intended to project a flame or
fireball of the type described in this section.
8. Any mechanical device specifically constructed and designed so
that when attached to a firearm silences, muffles, or suppresses the
sound when fired. However, this subsection does not apply to a
mechanical device possessed and used by a person solely for the
purpose of shooting a deer pursuant to an approved city special deer
population control plan if the person has a valid federal permit to
possess and use the mechanical device.
9. An offensive weapon or part or combination of parts therefor
shall not include the following:
a. An antique firearm. An antique firearm is any firearm
(including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap,
or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898 or
any firearm which is a replica of such a firearm if such replica is
not designed or redesigned for using conventional rimfire or
centerfire ammunition or which uses only rimfire or centerfire fixed
ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and
which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial
trade.
b. A collector's item. A collector's item is any firearm
other than a machine gun that by reason of its date of manufacture,
value, design, and other characteristics is not likely to be used as
a weapon. The commissioner of public safety shall designate by rule
firearms which the commissioner determines to be collector's items
and shall revise or update the list of firearms at least annually.
c. Any device which is not designed or redesigned for use as
a weapon; any device which is designed solely for use as a signaling,
pyrotechnic, line-throwing, safety, or similar device; or any firearm
which is unserviceable by reason of being unable to discharge a shot
by means of an explosive and is incapable of being readily restored
to a firing condition.
Section History: Early Form

[C27, 31, 35, § 12960-b1; C39, § 12960.01; C46, 50, 54, 58,
62, 66, § 696.1; C71, 73, 75, 77, § 696.1, 697.10, 697.11; C79, 81, §
724.1]
Section History: Recent Form

83 Acts, ch 7, § 1; 88 Acts, ch 1164, § 2, 3; 92 Acts, ch 1004, §
1, 2; 2000 Acts, ch 1116, §7
Referred to in § 124.401, 809.21, 809A.17
724.2 AUTHORITY TO POSSESS OFFENSIVE WEAPONS.
Any of the following is authorized to possess an offensive weapon
when the person's duties or lawful activities require or permit such
possession:
1. Any peace officer.
2. Any member of the armed forces of the United States or of the
national guard.
3. Any person in the service of the United States.
4. A correctional officer, serving in an institution under the
authority of the Iowa department of corrections.
5. Any person who under the laws of this state and the United
States, is lawfully engaged in the business of supplying those
authorized to possess such devices.
6. Any person, firm or corporation who under the laws of this
state and the United States is lawfully engaged in the improvement,
invention or manufacture of firearms.
7. Any museum or similar place which possesses, solely as relics,
offensive weapons which are rendered permanently unfit for use.
8. A resident of this state who possesses an offensive weapon
which is a curio or relic firearm under the federal Firearms Act, 18
U.S.C. ch. 44, solely for use in the official functions of a
historical reenactment organization of which the person is a member,
if the offensive weapon has been permanently rendered unfit for the
firing of live ammunition. The offensive weapon may, however, be
adapted for the firing of blank ammunition.
9. A nonresident who possesses an offensive weapon which is a
curio or relic firearm under the federal Firearms Act, 18 U.S.C. ch.
44, solely for use in official functions in this state of a
historical reenactment organization of which the person is a member,
if the offensive weapon is legally possessed by the person in the
person's state of residence and the offensive weapon is at all times
while in this state rendered incapable of firing live ammunition. A
nonresident who possesses an offensive weapon under this subsection
while in this state shall not have in the person's possession live
ammunition. The offensive weapon may, however, be adapted for the
firing of blank ammunition.
Section History: Early Form

[C27, 31, 35, § 12960-b4, 12960-b5, 12960-b7; C39, § 12960.04,
12960.05, 12960.07; C46, 50, 54, 58, 62, 66, 71, 73, 75, 77, §
696.4--696.7; C79, 81, § 724.2]
Section History: Recent Form

83 Acts, ch 96, § 122, 159; 97 Acts, ch 166, §3
Referred to in § 724.1