Looks like they're bringing back the G8

[sparkles]

Sort of....

http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/02/four-door-muscle-the-2014-chevy-ss/

Interesting to see if it will sell better than the Pontiac counterpart. I'd imagine it's going to start out in the upper 30s lower 40s as far as price.

[85XR7Project]

Looks like there should be a Buick badge on it. Yet another exciting design from GM...talk about a snorefest

[Domestic Disturbance]

Its sweet they are bringing that platform back, although I don't understand why they didn't just make it the next generation impala.

[sparkles]

Its sweet they are bringing that platform back, although I don't understand why they didn't just make it the next generation impala.

That's exactly what I thought. I don't see it selling very good. Especially with such a generic name. "SS". I really wish GM would get their stuff together.

[BGjohnson]

Look, it's a spruced up 98 chevy malibu...With no manual option.

It has potential, but they didn't take the idea all the way through.

Will it be cool in a few years? Hell yes, because you won't expect it. But for a new car, nobody will want it.

[AutoMods]

perfect grocery getter for an ls fan boy like myself that needs a couple car seats in the back . more ls3's in the junkyard eventually for v8 swaps. maybe the price of g8's will come down

[snickerlicker]

Back in the day SS always stood for Super Slow. LS equipped? Yep still true. :)

[slow ride]

Bla, bla at least they can move a two ton pig without a charger :) G8s seem to have a few to many issues for me to want to pick one up. Got to get rid of that DOD and lots of control arm and wheel shake issues. I'm not so sure about the 6l80 either as RPM won't even build them due to more agressive trans tunes taking out the clutches fast.

[8204Cobra]

Its a caprice cop car with brembos and leather :lame:

[AutoMods]

Its a caprice cop car with brembos and leather :lame:

well tell your mustang buddies to stop taking those golden ls3's out of the junkyards. they are taking down the supply and driving up the cost. tell them to use that new ford hyena motor or whatever its called

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/GM_LS3_Engine.jpg

[BGjohnson]

I wish the coyote engine was as abundant and cheap as an LS.

[86svo9L]

I wish the coyote engine was as abundant and cheap as an LS.

And as compact.

[AutoMods]

don't forget about low end torque

[JacobS]

I wish the coyote engine was as abundant and cheap as an LS.

so you like whores? lol

[90blkbrd]

I want one. To bad within 18 months I'll have 2 in college.

Price and availability will drive the price up where a normal person won't be able to get one for a few years.

[snickerlicker]

The SS with a Coyote motor might be worth buying, with the LS not so much..

[93stang5oh]

The SS with a Coyote motor might be worth buying, with the LS not so much..

I always thought that would be fun to do. Put a Ford power plant in Chevy and see what the bowtie people have to say. :)

[RedRocketZ28]

The SS with a Coyote motor might be worth buying, with the LS not so much..

Lulz.

[90blkbrd]

The SS with a Coyote motor might be worth buying, with the LS not so much..

Trust me I think the Coyote motor is a fantastic motor and I'm not a big fan of the LS3. (I am of the lS6) I've almost pulled the trigger on a 2011 mustang GT twice, but have you driven a 2011+ mustang by yourself and then again with 3 people in it? The car goes from Wow to OK. Now consider that the SS is sort of built off of the Camaro platform and it will weigh at least 400 lbs more than the Mustang and it just won't perform as well as the LS3 6.2.

[snickerlicker]

I always thought that would be fun to do. Put a Ford power plant in Chevy and see what the bowtie people have to say. :)

Already been done, enjoy the meltdown!

http://iowaautoforums.com/showthread.php?15011-Ford-powered-C5-Z06

[snickerlicker]

Trust me I think the Coyote motor is a fantastic motor and I'm not a big fan of the LS3. (I am of the lS6) I've almost pulled the trigger on a 2011 mustang GT twice, but have you driven a 2011+ mustang by yourself and then again with 3 people in it? The car goes from Wow to OK. Now consider that the SS is sort of built off of the Camaro platform and it will weigh at least 400 lbs more than the Mustang and it just won't perform as well as the LS3 6.2.


I'm not surprised a car feels slower with 3 people in it, then without. Should I be? LOL

[90blkbrd]

I'm not surprised a car feels slower with 3 people in it, then without. Should I be? LOL

No you shouldn't be, I'm just saying that's how slow a SS or Camaro would be if it had a 5.0 Coyote in it, unimpressive. The Camaro and more than likely the SS are overweight pigs.

[snickerlicker]

No you shouldn't be, I'm just saying that's how slow a SS or Camaro would be if it had a 5.0 Coyote in it, unimpressive. The Camaro and more than likely the SS are overweight pigs.

Yes I agree, GM is the king of making overweight unimpressive cars(the Vette being the only exception).

[RedRocketZ28]

Yes I agree, GM is the king of making overweight unimpressive cars(the Vette being the only exception).

What do you call every N/A Mustang from 1993-2010?

[slow ride]

Well your not going to get a 4 door that size and not have it 4000 lbs anymore. Now why the Camaros have to weigh so much is beyond me. With the automatic and stock stall the displacement will help it out a lot off idle and around town. They can keep that DOD crap though.

[snickerlicker]

What do you call every N/A Mustang from 1993-2010?

A thing of beauty...LOL

[sLoWnStEaDy]

Posted about this quite a few months back... From what I heard (from reputable sources) they never really planned to release it to the public. They were only suppose to be a PPV but sales were HORRIBLE (duh, this cant compete with the Ford Interceptors) after a while it was decided they needed a small redesign and then they'd be released as the "SS Sedan". I personally love these cars!! They make horrible police pursuit vehicles but they are pretty damn fun cars!!

It was funny seeing "G8" all over the back side of the interior panels the first time I tore one of them apart. The suspension on these things is STIIIIIFF, I was pulling one in the shop a while back and hit a rock that couldn't have been any larger than a marble and you'da thought it was a damn speed bump or something! I also love the paint, nothing super special, just a metallic black but... we got to see one before they got wrapped with the white and they were gorgeous. So, in summation, I finally found a Chevy that I like.

[BGjohnson]

What do you call every N/A Mustang from 1993-2010?

you mean 94-2010.

We try to forget :)

[85XR7Project]

The 5.0 OHV was easy to mod so that wasn't so bad, non PI years were the worst (215hp? come on), PI years were okay, 3v years were an improvement but not a good engine for such a good chassis.

[90blkbrd]

The 5.0 OHV was easy to mod so that wasn't so bad, non PI years were the worst (215hp? come on), PI years were okay, 3v years were an improvement but not a good engine for such a good chassis.

It took how many years to make a 300 hp 4.6?

Lexus was making 4.0 300 hp DOHC V8's back in 1998.

[85XR7Project]

They made a 300hp 4.6 in the mid 90's in the MKVIII...

[snickerlicker]

It took how many years to make a 300 hp 4.6?

Lexus was making 4.0 300 hp DOHC V8's back in 1998.

The 1996 Mustang Cobra was 305 HP...... Which BTW was the first year of the 4.6.

[90blkbrd]

1996 Mustang Cobra was 305 HP...... Which BTW was the first year of the 4.6.

Custom hand built and in extremely limited quantities, can you really count that? Lets not forget the infamous 320 hp recall. :banghead:

[snickerlicker]

Custom hand built and in extremely limited quantities, can you really count that? Lets not forget the infamous 320 hp recall. :banghead:

Please tell me you're kidding about custom hand built? I needed a good laugh this morning. They made 10,000 of them in 96...As for the infamous 320hp recall, at least Ford made it right. The Zl1 rated at 580hp and can barely outrun an NA SS Camaro?! Better recall those too, cause that's pathetic! I guess your 2002 Z06 was custom hand built and extremely limited quantity, because they made less of those than 96 Cobra's....?

[slow ride]

The only thing those old cobras feared was the mighty lt1 ;) I think the opti put it out front (till it broke ha).

[snickerlicker]

The only thing those old cobras feared was the mighty lt1 ;) I think the opti put it out front (till it broke ha).

Opti FTW!

[RedRocketZ28]

you mean 94-2010.

We try to forget :)

Yeah that's what I meant :). Thanks for the correction.

Never had a problem with the OPTI in my 95 Z28. It put the hurt on many 2v Mustangs, as well as an 01 Cobra ;).

[snickerlicker]

^ yeah right!

[RedRocketZ28]

^ yeah right!

No, unfortunately it is the truth.

[snickerlicker]

No, unfortunately it is the truth.

There is only one person who could have done that, and it's LT1DAN..

[garyLT1]

there is only one person who could have done that, and it's lt1dan..

lt1 power!!!!!ftw

[SledgeWS6]

Never had a problem with the OPTI in my 95 Z28. It put the hurt on many 2v Mustangs, as well as an 01 Cobra ;).

As this thread is already off topic.
'95 was the first year of the 'Vented' Opti so the moisture could actually escape. The '93/'94 cars had the worst problems with it. I never had an issue with my '97 for the 4 years I had it.
The SN95 4.6L V8s made what...200 horsepower on a cold day? I would hope the 275/285 horsepower F-bodies could out run 'em!

[RedRocketZ28]

As this thread is already off topic.
'95 was the first year of the 'Vented' Opti so the moisture could actually escape. The '93/'94 cars had the worst problems with it. I never had an issue with my '97 for the 4 years I had it.
The SN95 4.6L V8s made what...200 horsepower on a cold day? I would hope the 275/285 horsepower F-bodies could out run 'em!

I am aware. I have owned several F-bodies and have been around them for quite some time.

I was referring to any 2v 4.6L Mustang, not just the extreme turd SN95 ones.

[sparkles]

I'm not surprised a car feels slower with 3 people in it, then without. Should I be? LOL
If it's a Ford, it probably feels slow all the time....

[LT1Dan]

LT1 FTMFW!

Haven't had a single issue with my Opti in the ten years I've owned the car.

Also, this new SS looks like crap. Way to ruin good potential GM...

[snickerlicker]

If it's a Ford, it probably feels slow all the time....

I'm sure you are well versed on what slow feels like while driving your 3rd gen F-body...

[sparkles]

I'm sure you are well versed on what slow feels like while driving your 3rd gen F-body...
I know. That car really needs driver mod.

[snickerlicker]

I know. That car really needs driver mod.

Better mpg too.

[sparkles]

Don't even get me started. Terrible mpgs. E85

[DustinsDuster]

if you're gonna have a 4 door, the Chargers look a lot better IMHO.

[bizzle]

What do you call every N/A Mustang from 1993-2010?

far lighter than their f-body counterparts

[AutoMods]

if you're gonna have a 4 door, the Chargers look a lot better IMHO.

are you 2.2shelby ??? mopar fan boi

[sparkles]

far lighter than their f-body counterparts
And slower.

[85XR7Project]

And slower.

and cheaper and sold better. Lower price means more cash for mods. Still existed after 2002 as well.

[90blkbrd]

GM has put in a lot of time on the handling. The Charger won't come close on a road course.

[RedRocketZ28]

and cheaper and sold better. Lower price means more cash for mods. Still existed after 2002 as well.

So you have more money to put into modifying it to still be slower? I see what you mean.

Sold better? You can have that one. I would hate to see teenage girls at every stoplight driving the same car as me. Although the Camaro did outsell the Mustang in 2012...

[snickerlicker]

So you have more money to put into modifying it to still be slower? I see what you mean.

Sold better? You can have that one. I would hate to see teenage girls at every stoplight driving the same car as me. Although the Camaro did outsell the Mustang in 2012...

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/10sec5oh/0cf3c6e4.jpg

[RedRocketZ28]

^ Not at all. I must be missing the part of my previous post that portrays me being "mad".

[snickerlicker]

^ no reason to talk about the past, lets talk about the present..

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/10sec5oh/f136719e.jpg

[90blkbrd]

mod motor = "new"? That's funny!


^ no reason to talk about the past, lets talk about the present..

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/10sec5oh/f136719e.jpg

[RedRocketZ28]

Didn't know every new Mustang came with a blower...

1111

[snickerlicker]

The 5.0 doesn't need a blower, it makes plenty of power the way it is. But remember it took a blower to push an LS engine to 638hp, which is still less HP than a mod motor with a blower makes.... LOL! Sad days at GM as usual...

[snickerlicker]

mod motor = "new"? That's funny!

Are you still talking about those 10,000 "hand built, extremely rare 1996 Cobra Mustangs?" LMAO.

[RedRocketZ28]

The 5.0 doesn't need a blower, it makes plenty of power the way it is. But remember it took a blower to push an LS engine to 638hp, which is still less HP than a mod motor with a blower makes.... LOL! Sad days at GM as usual...

I will see your HP numbers and raise you PSI numbers...10.5 psi vs 15 psi.

[90blkbrd]

Are you still talking about those 10,000 "hand built, extremely rare 1996 Cobra Mustangs?" LMAO.

When you figure they were less than 2% of all 4.6's built that year, then yes, they are rare. Do you think they could have built 20,000 of them? No, they couldn't, the Italian foundry that build the blocks could barely keep up, the German company that made the valve springs actually held up production. Back then the Engine was cutting edge for Ford.

Thank goodness Ford finally threw in the towel and build a real motor and gave it a real name. The coyote. :)

[BGjohnson]

Gotta admit though, the new 5.0 is kickin some ass for the cubes.

[snickerlicker]

I will see your HP numbers and raise you PSI numbers...10.5 psi vs 15 psi.

Don't forget the C.I. difference favoring the GM side... Also it isn't Fords fault GM can't build a factory engine that can hold more PSI, those LS Juan's have a tendency to blow their guts I guess with anything more.

[snickerlicker]

When you figure they were less than 2% of all 4.6's built that year, then yes, they are rare. Do you think they could have built 20,000 of them? No, they couldn't, the Italian foundry that build the blocks could barely keep up, the German company that made the valve springs actually held up production. Back then the Engine was cutting edge for Ford.

Thank goodness Ford finally threw in the towel and build a real motor and gave it a real name. The coyote. :)

Ask Allgo how well his junk mod motor ran in his Cobra...

[allgo]

When you figure they were less than 2% of all 4.6's built that year, then yes, they are rare. Do you think they could have built 20,000 of them? No, they couldn't, the Italian foundry that build the blocks could barely keep up, the German company that made the valve springs actually held up production. Back then the Engine was cutting edge for Ford.

Thank goodness Ford finally threw in the towel and build a real motor and gave it a real name. The coyote. :)

Wow my stock crank stock headed mod motor went 179mph in the 1/4...you are so full of knowledge arent you? My good friend from West Virgina went 8.50 with his BONE STOCK never opened up motor with a 3.4 whipple on it..mod motors are bad ass motors so take all that knowledge you have and keep net racing..do you even race dude?

There is a reason you can go to any dragstrip in america and see tons of mustangs there running..its cause they are a awsome car..watched ducks race this weekend in georgia and can proable count on 2 hands how many ls based cars there where racing let alone winning a round..lol stangs clean house deal with it..

[90blkbrd]

Wow my stock crank stock headed mod motor went 179mph in the 1/4...you are so full of knowledge arent you? My good friend from West Virgina went 8.50 with his BONE STOCK never opened up motor with a 3.4 whipple on it..mod motors are bad ass motors so take all that knowledge you have and keep net racing..do you even race dude?

Hmm, I must have hit a sore spot. Sorry.

Yes, I've raced before. I'll freely admit certainly not at your level...or anywhere close.

[StreetSweeper]

watched ducks race this weekend in georgia and can proable count on 2 hands how many ls based cars there where racing let alone winning a round..lol stangs clean house deal with it..

Shut it.. You can't even count let alone try to count on your 2 hands! LOL

[allgo]

No sore spot just the facts from me..here is the deal I owend a 2003 cobra and a 2001 Z06 at the sametime and we went out and I drove my cobra and stevo drove my vette and we roll raced twice and the cobra walked the the vette both times.

P.S. I turn my cobra 9700rpms wonder if you twist that ls that high with out it spilling its guts...lol

[allgo]

Shut it.. You can't even count let alone try to count on your 2 hands! LOL

my kids count for me now...lol

[90blkbrd]

I will admit Ford did find something special in the 4.6 when they threw boost at it.


here is the deal I owend a 2003 cobra and a 2001 Z06 at the sametime and we went out and I drove my cobra and stevo drove my vette and we roll raced twice and the cobra walked the the vette both times.

I'm just curious, were both cars stock?

Interesting Internet racing statistic. LOL Motor Trend had a stock 2003 corvette faster than a stock 2003 Cobra.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0305_sport_convertibles_comparison/viewall.html


P.S. I turn my cobra 9700rpms wonder if you twist that ls that high with out it spilling its guts...lol

Impressive and I'd bet against any stock LS motor at 9700 rpms.

[RedRocketZ28]

Don't forget the C.I. difference favoring the GM side... Also it isn't Fords fault GM can't build a factory engine that can hold more PSI, those LS Juan's have a tendency to blow their guts I guess with anything more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xycy_WgvN9Q

I'm done now. I could really care less anyway. I am just bored at work, ha. I have nothing against Mustangs. I would love to have a 03-04 Cobra, 2011+ 5.0, or a GT500.

[snickerlicker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xycy_WgvN9Q

I'm done now. I could really care less anyway. I am just bored at work, ha. I have nothing against Mustangs. I would love to have a 03-04 Cobra, 2011+ 5.0, or a GT500.

Impressive! I'm not much of a dyno racer though..

[snickerlicker]

I will admit Ford did find something special in the 4.6 when they threw boost at it.



I'm just curious, were both cars stock?

Interesting Internet racing statistic. LOL Motor Trend had a stock 2003 corvette faster than a stock 2003 Cobra.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0305_sport_convertibles_comparison/viewall.html



Impressive and I'd bet against any stock LS motor at 9700 rpms.

Allgo's Z06 had cat back exhaust, CAI, and tune. His Cobra had an upper pulley and tune at the time of the beat down race. I witnessed it first hand from the passenger seat of the Cobra.

[AutoMods]

http://cache1.bigcartel.com/product_images/66040725/BM_OnMYLevel_2012_black.jpg

[RedRocketZ28]

Impressive! I'm not much of a dyno racer though..

Me either. Especially when the numbers were through a LOCKED 4L80e. Unlocked I would guess would show 100 rwhp or so less at that power level. Either way though, that motor has been through hell and keeps on going.

Here's a nice Fox for you :).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7DfMWXqx0&feature=youtu.be

stock 6.0 with unported L92 heads
holley hi-ram intake
garret budget gt91mm turbo
ebay head studs
ls9 head gaskets
17psi

[snickerlicker]

Is this the guy from the video?

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/10sec5oh/67db77cf58ef9ee3cbba9099e86fd2e2.jpg

[RedRocketZ28]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/28202005.jpg

[snickerlicker]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/10sec5oh/7259f96951ae93bb46281feafece6e23.jpg

[85XR7Project]

Lol GM guys talking about the Mod motor like they know anything. hilarious.

[sparkles]

Ford guys thinking other Ford guys are actually GM guys, lol.

[sparkles]

1112

[RedRocketZ28]

Lol GM guys talking about the Mod motor like they know anything. hilarious.

Hehe, Ford guys talking about LS motors like they know anything. Comical.

[sparkles]

They usually know what the tailights of a LS powered cars look like.

[allgo]

They usually know what the tailights of a LS powered cars look like.

Never here

[85XR7Project]

Hehe, Ford guys talking about LS motors like they know anything. Comical.

I don't think I said one word about the LSx but whatever.


Ford guys thinking other Ford guys are actually GM guys, lol.

Haha, I'm well aware of whom likes which make here by now. I was stirring the pot.

[AutoMods]

you guys might shit when you find out how much power Andy "skipdownstairs" has already dyno'd on his non-forged 5.3 ls mustang. but i'm not sure if he wants his numbers posted yet

[Domestic Disturbance]

DURAMAX > POWERSTROKE

am I doing this right?

[85XR7Project]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXMEM48Ohkw

not a good comparison but it keeps the hate flowing so...

[SledgeWS6]

CUMMINS > DURAMAX > POWERSTROKE < CUMMINS

am I doing this right?

Fixed it for ya! :D

[snickerlicker]

you guys might shit when you find out how much power Andy "skipdownstairs" has already dyno'd on his non-forged 5.3 ls mustang. but i'm not sure if he wants his numbers posted yet

Will the shit look similar to this?

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/10sec5oh/f68985f9838ddf0b5fbb2e779e81c7a9.jpg

[BGjohnson]

This is a fun thread.

Gross poo man, gross.

[AutoMods]

Will the shit look similar to this?

how much horsepower will it take to get you to shit like that ?

[SledgeWS6]

how much horsepower will it take to get you to shit like that ?

Too many variable Ryan...does he pitch or catch? That's the biggest. :D

[snickerlicker]

how much horsepower will it take to get you to shit like that ?

Way more than that LS can make.. :)

[Domestic Disturbance]

Looks like a ford guy poop. All their buttholes are reemed out from the local gay errr mustang bar

[DustinsDuster]

are you 2.2shelby ??? mopar fan boi


i used to REALLY want an Omni GLH for a daily driver. i guess i grew out of that.

[BGjohnson]

I still want one!

[sparkles]

^You want everything though, lol.

[BGjohnson]

I am car hungry. Feed me.

[90blkbrd]

I am car hungry. Feed me.

Me too!

I'm thinking 335xi