2013 IAF Street Car Shootout ?

[JacobS]

so uh...is it too early to start discussions on the shootout for 2013.

I bet ryan gets beat by a honda this year.

throw out some ideas!

[bonesaw53]

I bet you get beat by a mustang. Theres quite a few out there I have been told.

[Batwood]

I bet a Mustang wins the Manual class... I'll be glad to make a clean pass this time and not put on a smoke show.

[JacobS]

me to!

[OldSkoolRCR]

EddyB=Auto class for 1

[bonesaw53]

Ed, does that mean you have a car now?

[sparkles]

http://www.perivision.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/spit-take-meme.jpg

[Domestic Disturbance]

Was this gonna be earlier in the year this year? I think we lucked out big time on the weather last year

[OldSkoolRCR]

Ed, does that mean you have a car now?

Nope!!! But pencil me in for the Auto class.

[AutoMods]

yea it was a bit cold out october 20th. mid/late august or anytime September would be great i think. seems like a lot of people's car's aren't ready early in the year

[JacobS]

speak for youself^ hehe

[SledgeWS6]

I think late August would be good. The guys that are still in school will be able to make it right before college fires back up. Its also a time-frame where most will have the kinks worked out of their cars and haven't had a whole season yet to break them too badly. :D

My only constraints are my new job I'm starting in March and what funds are going to be like then getting something done with my car. Also, I’m taking the Cobalt up to Road America one of those weekends so it’ll depend on when Corvette Weekend is this year.

[Sunny Z]

We should do another event in the spring. Also, my vote would be august / september.

[bonesaw53]

I think it would be cool to do two events as well but thats me. I also agree the late August early September would be a good time to have it.

[fox_stang]

i think we should have a spring grudge day and then have the shootout whenever in the summer..hopefully not on a 100* day

[JacobS]

i personally think we should have the Automatic class guys make the automatic rules, and then leave the manual rules the way they are. That way, ed or fifdy could take charge or something. just a suggestion....

[bonesaw53]

^
I second this motion.

[BGjohnson]

I like beginning of September, late August.

[garyLT1]

Late August would be nice. Plus my car hopefully will be done by then. I already have someone I want to run.

[AutoMods]

i personally think we should have the Automatic class guys make the automatic rules, and then leave the manual rules the way they are. That way, ed or fifdy could take charge or something. just a suggestion....


i'd be up for this. it would relieve some stress if i didn't have to deal with the auto class complaints. any volunteers?

[Newgen]

i think we should have a spring grudge day and then have the shootout whenever in the summer..hopefully not on a 100* day

Really like the idea of a grudge day in the spring and the shootout in the fall.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Guys this is more than just a drag racing/grudge racing site....you'd be better off organize a car show/cruise/coffee talk day....I tried helping set up last year...look how well that turned out.

[bonesaw53]

Iowa auto forums. Where the meets never happen and the shit talk turns guys into girls.

[JacobS]

well, here we go again.

[LT1Dan]

Guys this is more than just a drag racing/grudge racing site....you'd be better off organize a car show/cruise/coffee talk day....I tried helping set up last year...look how well that turned out.

Yeah, you rigged it so you would win!
:fing26:

[garyLT1]

Meets and shit would be nice on this site.. I never here of any of you guys getting together except the people that meet at sonic on weekends.

[Newgen]

Guys this is more than just a drag racing/grudge racing site....you'd be better off organize a car show/cruise/coffee talk day....I tried helping set up last year...look how well that turned out.

I'm usually down for traveling and attending cruises shows whatever. Had some issues with my car last year (I know ricer talk). I'm hoping to make it to cr at least once this year.

[Sunny Z]

Guys this is more than just a drag racing/grudge racing site....you'd be better off organize a car show/cruise/coffee talk day....I tried helping set up last year...look how well that turned out.

Hard ass ITT

Fact: Cars are more likely to race when they're congregated.

[garyLT1]

Fact: Cars are more likely to race when they're congregated.

True

[Domestic Disturbance]

A get together has been discussed but never followed through with. when the weather starts warning up i think we should try to Hewett something going as there is definitely interest. A little off topic for the shootout though

[mark87supra]

Agreed, might be a little off topic, but true. I think a Aug/Sept date would be better. A date in spring would be nice or a meet in the spring might work too.

[Clinical]

Aug/Sept would be great. More preferably August for the warmer weather and like mentioned during a break for us tards in school would be nice. Also it'd be nice having good enough weather for some of us to bring our bikes - even though theres nothing for bikes in the shootout it'd be nice to have a reason to come to the track and maybe make a few passes in the test&tune portion.

[Drifte]

Speaking of get togethers. Every weekend Im out with a few guys from this site. I guess I should just start posting somewhere what we're doing, and if even a couple guys can make it, we would have the biggest meet we've had for a while. Aside from the actual shoot out, the biggest group of guys we had together 2012 was probably advance auto car show when somehow a bunch of us met up there without even talking about it. myself, kitch, jesse, eric, a couple other bike guys and I think Kitch's future car was there that night too (the turbo one). Thats only 5..I guess the Tama/Toledo car show had more of us there, and even some racing!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxgQZTPmGdU

[AutoMods]

I'm curious, do you guys want

1. a simple shootout this year with no entry fee but also with no payouts and just a couple trophies
2. like last year with $25-$35 entry fee and payouts and lots of trophies

[BGjohnson]

I think the trophies were the must fun. Cash pay out isn't enough to actually pay for anything.

[JacobS]

option 1 and ill buy my own trophy so i feel good about myself.

[Newgen]

I think the trophies were the must fun. Cash pay out isn't enough to actually pay for anything.

I agree, even though i've never entered the event lol.

[Scott]

Guys this is more than just a drag racing/grudge racing site....you'd be better off organize a car show/cruise/coffee talk day....I tried helping set up last year...look how well that turned out.

hahaa, thats what I like about Tyler he speaks the truth!!

Just not the right crowd here for real competitive racing or shit talking grudge racers... Not gonna happen unless there is some skin in the game and thats only because out of town guys will come in

[Stutz]

I'm down for a spring meet. Who wants to get a lane against a stock internal ta?

[Sunny Z]

I'm down for the set homies. I did like the trophies though. Made me feel better about making A pass. lol

Fun time, regardless. I just enjoy getting together for a day of racing!

[LT1Dan]

Option 2.

[Larsons Fox]

Speaking of get togethers. Every weekend Im out with a few guys from this site. I guess I should just start posting somewhere what we're doing, and if even a couple guys can make it, we would have the biggest meet we've had for a while. Aside from the actual shoot out, the biggest group of guys we had together 2012 was probably advance auto car show when somehow a bunch of us met up there without even talking about it. myself, kitch, jesse, eric, a couple other bike guys and I think Kitch's future car was there that night too (the turbo one). Thats only 5..I guess the Tama/Toledo car show had more of us there, and even some racing!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxgQZTPmGdU

That was a fun day. Too bad Brent didn't race a real bike that day...

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I'm down for a spring meet. Who wants to get a lane against a stock internal ta?

I've got a stock internal Ta...name your price tricky.Ricky

[lenny]

Anyone want to have a shootout on a track with corners?
-Dan

[DustinsDuster]

im down with whatever; if i can be free i'll be there for a shoot out or a cruise/get together. i'll bring a rag to spit shine the old work truck while the 'vette guys stare in disgust.

[Xboosted23X]

Anyone want to have a shootout on a track with corners?
-Dan

I would be down for this. I don't think there is much following on this board for that type of racing though.

[Stutz]

I've got a stock internal Ta...name your price tricky.Ricky
Idk from what I've seen on the internet you have a legit 12 second car. With some negative da and a 1.4 60' I might be able to break into the 13s.
I was thinking lt1dan so we could see who really woulda been runner up if I actually wouldve went to the shootout

[Batwood]

Idk from what I've seen on the internet you have a legit 12 second car.

Lol. Is that why you run with the clocks off, Fiddy?

[Deimos]

I'm down for a spring meet. Who wants to get a lane against a stock internal ta?

Pump gas street truck race?

[LT1Dan]

I'll run ya. I'd say mine is a 12 second car and fifdy had me covered by a mile.

[Clinical]

Lol. Is that why you run with the clocks off, Fiddy?

those 10.8's at the shootout displayed on the boards were inflated to make him feel good, his best pass of the day was actually 12.6@145mph. So it's basically a supra.

[Stutz]

Pump gas street truck race?

Woah now lets be realistic. Your gxp vs my gtp.
Of course fiddy runs 12s memes don't lie

[OldSkoolRCR]

Lol. Is that why you run with the clocks off, Fiddy?

WTF!!!! You all scared of a 150K worn out stock internal LS1? You got that BAD Cobra all tuned up dont ya?...lol I bet Fiddy wins again this year, any takers on a small bet?

[BGjohnson]

If I get my junk at the track and don't get kicked out after the first run, I think I'll have a chance.

[AutoMods]

If I get my junk at the track and don't get kicked out after the first run, I think I'll have a chance.

should be interesting with batwood and logan's new setups. and if casey gets his figured out. maybe even slowride if he can get his vette to hook

[Batwood]

WTF!!!! You all scared of a 150K worn out stock internal LS1? You got that BAD Cobra all tuned up dont ya?...lol I bet Fiddy wins again this year, any takers on a small bet?

I think we still have $100 bet standing...
My BAD Cobra has a bone stock junkyard motor in it. As if the IRS and stick didn't slow it down enough already.
He knows I'm down to race as long as my car cooperates.

[OldSkoolRCR]

should be interesting with batwood and logan's new setups. and if casey gets his figured out. maybe even slowride if he can get his vette to hook

Should have been interesting last year with Fiddy....BUT we all seen how that turned out....lol.....This year there will be 1 more unknown LS powered car in this race also, you will all see the car on that day...so Casey,Logan and Batwwod better get them Cobras ready....lol

[derek072887]

Should have been interesting last year with Fiddy....BUT we all seen how that turned out....lol.....This year there will be 1 more unknown LS powered car in this race also, you will all see the car on that day...so Casey,Logan and Batwwod better get them Cobras ready....lol

Did I miss something about auto's and manual's running together this year?

[OldSkoolRCR]

I think we still have $100 bet standing...
He knows I'm down to race as long as my car cooperates.


I say 1 shake down pass for each car then let um hang!!!!!

Can I get a side bet of $100.00 on Fiddy?

[Deimos]

Do I smella class for thebauto guys?

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I was kinda thinking about spraying the car this year..it'll go home in pieces

[Sunny Z]

IRS and stick handicap checking in. Should be able to have the car hold together this year.

[OldSkoolRCR]

Do I smella class for thebauto guys?

I dont see that happening...that would cause to much interest in this event and actually pak the event!!!! Lets just keep catering to the stick cars. QCAAF will have the BIG auto/Grudge event in June.

[OldSkoolRCR]

I was kinda thinking about spraying the car this year..it'll go home in pieces

What for? It had plenty left N/A last year!

[c_mart_28]

should be interesting with batwood and logan's new setups. and if casey gets his figured out. maybe even slowride if he can get his vette to hook

Kurgan tunes my car April 5th.

Should be good to go. I've got some making up to do. My trophy shelf in the garage is missing some hardware. That needs addressed.

[OldSkoolRCR]

Kurgan tunes my car April 5th.

Should be good to go. I've got some making up to do. My trophy shelf in the garage is missing some hardware. That needs addressed.

SO MUCH for wishfull thinking... you got 1 BADD AZZ LSX car to get past...thats proven/and been out already this year....good luck to that!

[bonesaw53]

everything will be good to go by the first week of April. As long as I beat Brian and make Scherman cry it will be a successful day.

[Deimos]

everything will be good to go by the first week of April. As long as I beat Brian and make Scherman cry it will be a successful day.

You sure iys gonn be done snowing?

[JacobS]

everything will be good to go by the first week of April. As long as I beat Brian and make Scherman cry it will be a successful day.

my car makes me cry. not you. get it right.

[Sunny Z]

So basically, someone is gon get the gas hossed on em.

[Newgen]

I really hope my car actually makes it this year lol.

[BGjohnson]

If mine doesn't, somebody really hates me...

[Sleepy]

If mine doesn't i'm going to set it on fire.

[93stang5oh]

Kurgan tunes my car April 5th.

Should be good to go. I've got some making up to do. My trophy shelf in the garage is missing some hardware. That needs addressed.

Didn't Kurgan pick up and move down to Georgia?

[Clinical]

I'm sure the SE Iowa group will be there again with a few cars this year. I know I will be since I live here now haha, though I'll probably just be running the bike for shits and giggles.

[skipdownstairs]

Didn't Kurgan pick up and move down to Georgia?

He isn't around here anymore your right hes in Georgia.

[skipdownstairs]

How about a drag radial 275 class for the shootout perhaps?

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

I'm game for a 275 class. Just make sure its later in the year so we have a nice groove.

[OldSkoolRCR]

Why does there always have to be stipulations "Drag Radial" how about a run what ya brung class? Heads up!!! clocks off first one to the stripe! Slick/Drag Radial/Snow tires who gives a shit...lol

[Scott]

I think 275 would be awesome, I would be curious what would be done for payout to get a car count and I dont care what the track conditions are, we all race on the same track

[Scott]

Why does there always have to be stipulations "Drag Radial" how about a run what ya brung class? Heads up!!! clocks off first one to the stripe! Slick/Drag Radial/Snow tires who gives a shit...lol

Eddy just calling it a 275 class gets attention from people outta town "then theres the payout thing" aint nobody around here show up to race at 10.5 class anyway and you cant get much more run what ya brung than that!

[OldSkoolRCR]

Well it would be nice to see something other than tire spinnig,parts breaking stick cars at this event...Sad us CR guys gotta go to the QCAAF race event just to get some Heads up money grudge raceing, Or a Heads up class that will pay out something, But your right 10.5 is going to be real sad this year...fo sure. Ryan dig into that cheap lil pocket of yours and get a pay out togather for the 275/10.5 guys and draw a big crowd...It a tax right of anyway...WTF DIg BOY DIG into them pockets, I say a 800-1000 payout would get some attention?

[bonesaw53]

Well it would be nice to see something other than tire spinnig,parts breaking stick cars at this event...Sad us CR guys gotta go to the QCAAF race event just to get some Heads up money grudge raceing, Or a Heads up class that will pay out something, But your right 10.5 is going to be real sad this year...fo sure. Ryan dig into that cheap lil pocket of yours and get a pay out togather for the 275/10.5 guys and draw a big crowd...It a tax right of anyway...WTF DIg BOY DIG into them pockets, I say a 800-1000 payout would get some attention?


The only problem is that most of the people coming out will be manual from last years turn out. I wasn't there for the first one but it seems there's a huge line in the sand against auto to manual cars. I'll admit it that with the manuals it really limits the times unless you have a fully caged out drag car. That being said I would love to see more people come out this year and even have a possible auto class or 10.5 to race along side the manuals hell I might even jump into that pool ( know I'd loose but meh), hey there's even a chance I could win again on someone redlighting like last time *cough* ed *cough* lol.

[skipdownstairs]

I agree with that you guys it takes decent payout to get cars I say minimum 100.00 entry fee winner takes all. Hell bracket cars racing super pro pay that.

[slow ride]

Any way to figure out getting a rental :) I know there was talk about it last year, but it's just money right. It would suck for the fast cars (ie 10.5 guys) to have to run with street tire cars at a paid rental since they degrade the track so much.

[JacobS]

it will also scare people away those that dont want to race against 10.5 cars. im not complaining, i probably wont be able to make it anyway to do my proposed work schedule. but high entry fees and 8 sec cars will just weed out the slower cars, therefore leaving us with the same amount of cars and an event that isnt growing. just my .02, take it for what its worth

[OldSkoolRCR]

The only problem is that most of the people coming out will be manual from last years turn out. I wasn't there for the first one but it seems there's a huge line in the sand against auto to manual cars. I'll admit it that with the manuals it really limits the times unless you have a fully caged out drag car. That being said I would love to see more people come out this year and even have a possible auto class or 10.5 to race along side the manuals hell I might even jump into that pool ( know I'd loose but meh), hey there's even a chance I could win again on someone redlighting like last time *cough* ed *cough* lol.

Tell ya what...we recently had a Fbody come to light....It is a 100% full weight camaro, factory interior,power seats, heat. A/C full exhaust, wipers, radio, CD, AOD tranny, etc all the bells and whistles, sit exactly as your car if not heavier. I (EddyB) will drive it to the track, set you out 1 car and we race for $500.00 off a arm drop. This offer goes out to you, Batwood, Casey M, Slow Ride,Ryan any of you stick guys signed up for the race, and to show were equall opp. Last year Auto winner (Fiddy) can get in line also. Run what ya brung, slick or Drag Radial. Oh its a stock bore LS motor on N20, no direct port just a Lil shark nozzel kit....Take my MONEY!!!!!!!!!
Or any of you guys can come to the QCAAF race in June I offer the same race there!

[skipdownstairs]

100.00 entry fee for 275 10.5 guys only is what I ment just something to add to Ryans shootout I am even willing to sponser it if I see enough interest. JacobS clarify scare away people to have to run against 10.5 cars

[JacobS]

are we talking about running the actual 10.5 class, or have the 10.5 cars run in the auto class? if you run an actual 10.5 class i dont see a problem with it, but if you want them to run in the auto class i could forsee it causing problems with the slower guys not wanting to run against 8 second cars. it would just be kind of stupid to run a 12 second car vs an 8 second car.

[skipdownstairs]

are we talking about running the actual 10.5 class, or have the 10.5 cars run in the auto class? if you run an actual 10.5 class i dont see a problem with it, but if you want them to run in the auto class i could forsee it causing problems with the slower guys not wanting to run against 8 second cars. it would just be kind of stupid to run a 12 second car vs an 8 second car.

Having an actual 10.5 or 275 drag radial class with its own entry fee.

[slow ride]

Yea, the 10.5/radial guys, auto class and manual class. Only problem i see is that will there be enough time to run everything and have the normal test and tune go on? That and the track prep might not be good enough on that type of day for the 10.5/radial guys. Nothing worse than them dragging the cars out to slip slide away down the track.

[Scott]

Yea, the 10.5/radial guys, auto class and manual class. Only problem i see is that will there be enough time to run everything and have the normal test and tune go on? That and the track prep might not be good enough on that type of day for the 10.5/radial guys. Nothing worse than them dragging the cars out to slip slide away down the track.

Thats the challenge of racing a small tire car in the first place, we all race on the same track so its all fair anyway right?? Depending on when the rental is and payout we all know there is plenty of cars within driving distance to enter a headsup race without perfect track prep. KOTS and Total Meltdown events bring tons of cars and spectators. All depends on how serious you are about this small tire heads up street car stuff, because we can all just be honest here and admit the fact IF there is a event like this and you want to make it work the majority of the cars WILL NOT come from this area. I could see Allgo, Torrey, skipstairs, Seelman maybe, myself, and then guys from else where.

Dont know what you guys are thinking but Im envisioning more of a street race style here as opposed to a 10.5 event. No qualifying, maybe a hour for test hits, then allow callouts for 1st round if they get accepted and draw names from there on out. It will take some time and likely run into the night. If you put $$ down they will come, I know QCAA at cordova had a good amount of guys planning on racing that werent from the area.

[derek072887]

Tell ya what...we recently had a Fbody come to light....It is a 100% full weight camaro, factory interior,power seats, heat. A/C full exhaust, wipers, radio, CD, AOD tranny, etc all the bells and whistles, sit exactly as your car if not heavier. I (EddyB) will drive it to the track, set you out 1 car and we race for $500.00 off a arm drop. This offer goes out to you, Batwood, Casey M, Slow Ride,Ryan any of you stick guys signed up for the race, and to show were equall opp. Last year Auto winner (Fiddy) can get in line also. Run what ya brung, slick or Drag Radial. Oh its a stock bore LS motor on N20, no direct port just a Lil shark nozzel kit....Take my MONEY!!!!!!!!!
Or any of you guys can come to the QCAAF race in June I offer the same race there!

having an auto automatically drops about a half second off your time and you are only willing to set these guys out 1 length?

[FiFdYnUtZ]

You guys do realize we tried ALL of these ideas last year and it all fell through?

[Scott]

You guys do realize we tried ALL of these ideas last year and it all fell through?

not the money part

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Rental, classes, and payouts were all proposed, I even had a few sponsors ready to pull the trigger...something like that would have to be done on our own...Ryan and the brat pack are only going to want a test and tune stick bracket again

[AutoMods]

Im down for trying whatever. I can handle the manual class. I would like someone to step up and handle all aspects of the auto class(es) , rules, entry fees, payouts/awards and gathering participants. I can help promote it and throw in a couple hundred into the pot.

I just emailed Dan for the cost for private track rental this year so we will see. QCAAF's quote for private rental at cordova was much cheaper than the cfr's quote. Tyler, are you going to prepay for the private track rental ?? That way I don't have to worry if only 12 people show up to race.

[derek072887]

Im down for trying whatever. I can handle the manual class. I would like someone to step up and handle all aspects of the auto class(es) , rules, entry fees, payouts/awards and gathering participants. I can help promote it and throw in a couple hundred into the pot.

I just emailed Dan for the cost for private track rental this year so we will see. QCAAF's quote for private rental at cordova was much cheaper than the cfr's quote. Tyler, are you going to prepay for the private track rental ?? That way I don't have to worry if only 12 people show up to race.

Prepay? LMAO he didn't even want to pay the $25 up front last year and then bitched when I told him $35 the day of....

[AutoMods]

derek, your going to get kicked in the face

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2159/ufcdoublekick.gif

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I'm not even capable of being a mod anymore, not sure how I would be capable of helping you with the event

[skipdownstairs]

I think you guys have a pretty good thing going for the manual and auto cars for the forum and should stick with it. I propose a list of participants like you did last year and see what what we have. For instance $100.00 entry fee or discount prepay Looks like we have 5 guys that are interested if someone puts up 500.00 and we have people prepay well boys that's a 1000.00 race. When you start guaranteeing money people will come.

[skipdownstairs]

Dont know what you guys are thinking but Im envisioning more of a street race style here as opposed to a 10.5 event. No qualifying, maybe a hour for test hits, then allow callouts for 1st round if they get accepted and draw names from there on out. It will take some time and likely run into the night. If you put $$ down they will come, I know QCAA at cordova had a good amount of guys planning on racing that werent from the area.

I like this idea as well run what you brung any limitations like you said before??? Tires?

[Scott]

I like this idea as well run what you brung any limitations like you said before??? Tires?

Tires is the big limiter, its basically universal rules for small tire stuff out there keeping out the tube chassis 4-linked door cars and dragsters. Id just saw Iowa 10.5 rules, and before anyone bitches take a look at the rules and notice they're basically non-existant. no weight limit. no bars. any power adder or number of them. any trans. any engine.

The question that usually raises debate is whether 1/8th or 1/4, I personally prefer the 1/8th just because it keeps speed down on marginal tracks.

[Scott]

oh yeah I'd say 275 radial or 28x10.5 those tires are proven in testing to be more or less equal to each other

[Newgen]

I'll be running in the auto class this year. I'm not an extremely picky person. I like the idea of a 10.5 radial class something dot approved. If that was the case it wouldn't matter to me how fast the cars went. I wont win either way but at least there on some level an equalizer.

[OldSkoolRCR]

having an auto automatically drops about a half second off your time and you are only willing to set these guys out 1 length?

Exactly...lets see Logans Cobra made over 800 whp, Batwoods made over 700whp, CMarts makes well over 700 whp, Slow ride has twin turbos, Ryans got turbos and his car is a light weight patato chip...this is a full weight 3800lbs+ with driver stock bore LS motor with a tiny lil shark nozzel and a AOD no transbrake....do the math dumbass. how much power can a stock bore LS motor with a single nozzel of N20 make and at 3800+lbs..tell ya what up it to $1000 and they can have 2 lenghts, better yet put up $500 of your money and they can have 2 lenghts. Glad you know so much about Autos LS motors ect....show up at the race and we will discuess it.

Oh and its PUMP GAS!!!!!!!! not no E85 or Race gas shit.....Ill poor the fuel in the tank right there or we can go to the station down the road and dump 10gals of the cheap shit in there. Step up or shut up!!!!

[Scott]

Exactly...lets see Logans Cobra made over 800 whp, Batwoods made over 700whp, CMarts makes well over 700 whp, Slow ride has twin turbos, Ryans got turbos and his car is a light weight patato chip...this is a full weight 3800lbs+ with driver stock bore LS motor with a tiny lil shark nozzel and a AOD no transbrake....do the math dumbass. how much power can a stock bore LS motor with a single nozzel of N20 make and at 3800+lbs..tell ya what up it to $1000 and they can have 2 lenghts, better yet put up $500 of your money and they can have 2 lenghts. Glad you know so much about Autos LS motors ect....show up at the race and we will discuess it.

Oh and its PUMP GAS!!!!!!!! not no E85 or Race gas shit.....Ill poor the fuel in the tank right there or we can go to the station down the road and dump 10gals of the cheap shit in there. Step up or shut up!!!!


dam Im tempted to take that race with my slow car!! LOL

[OldSkoolRCR]

Scotty your Silver Cobra VS this car Im speaking of...we can race for dinner Red Lobster will be fine for me! You dont want any of this with the Cobra trust me.

[OldSkoolRCR]

[QUOTE=FiFdYnUtZ;195474...Ryan and the brat pack are only going to want a test and tune stick bracket again[/QUOTE]


AMEN...perfectly said....first off Ryan maybee you should talk to Doug from QCAAF Cordova Fucked him good on rental for June over $3000K for the day, but if thats cheaper than CFR its a no brainer!!!! go to Cordova. Its about the site and getting exposer, that the reason everybody looking forward to the QCAAF race....Grudge, 10.5 class, call outs, could have a stick class also... and payouts...not $5 tropheys, where you think the money comes from, Doug puts money out of his own pocket...you cheap ass put some money up for your site, get some sponsers to toss in money, set it up like Andy and Scotty say...a $$$$ buy in and winner take all, or pay a few spots....WTF this your first race event?

Maybee some of these dedicated forum followers you have should all toss in a $50 or $100 and help you out, instead of sitting on here yaking the gums about it...tell ya what get some of your boys to toss in...I put up the first $50.00...Im sure 500 or 1000 would come quick if everyone helped out, Or stick with the Dollar General trophys, that get tossed away. Your site your choice!

[skipdownstairs]

Hell yeah Ed! Where do I mail the checks and who do they get made out to? Ryan would you like me to mail them to you and make them out to you or something

[OldSkoolRCR]

I dont see it happening Andy...That may draw to much attention and fun to this race, and the tire spinning stick cars would get overlooked, you need to check out the QCAAF race in June, should be some GOOOOD! action there.

[bonesaw53]

Scotty your Silver Cobra VS this car Im speaking of...we can race for dinner Red Lobster will be fine for me! You dont want any of this with the Cobra trust me.

I wanna race for buttery cheese biscuits :(

[AutoMods]

mail all payments to EddyB. I'm just the web guy. this site is not for profit

[Batwood]

Exactly...lets see Logans Cobra made over 800 whp, Batwoods made over 700whp, CMarts makes well over 700 whp, Slow ride has twin turbos, Ryans got turbos and his car is a light weight patato chip...this is a full weight 3800lbs+ with driver stock bore LS motor with a tiny lil shark nozzel and a AOD no transbrake....do the math dumbass. how much power can a stock bore LS motor with a single nozzel of N20 make and at 3800+lbs..tell ya what up it to $1000 and they can have 2 lenghts, better yet put up $500 of your money and they can have 2 lenghts. Glad you know so much about Autos LS motors ect....show up at the race and we will discuess it.

Oh and its PUMP GAS!!!!!!!! not no E85 or Race gas shit.....Ill poor the fuel in the tank right there or we can go to the station down the road and dump 10gals of the cheap shit in there. Step up or shut up!!!!
I barely made 600. Blah blah blah. I always race if i can, but I'm poor and slow. If I had a chance I'd throw money down but that's situational.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

I would be willing to add sponsor money also. Let me know what you need.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

When is the qcaaf race ed?

[OldSkoolRCR]

Mike it is in June...I will get you the exact date. Ryan the last person you want in charge of this IAF race would be me, because it will turn out to be a AWSOME bad ass day full of fast ass cars grudge racing...etc,etc....and you would not know what to do with yourself.....Good luck

Tell ya what...if there are people serious about tossing in some $$$$...I will help you and orginize a 10.5 Heads up No Clocks, winner take all race, I think we need atleast a $750.00min pot, I would really like to see $1000.00. I promise if we can get this $$$ You all will see some BAD AZZ head up raceing...so if your all serious PM me and lets get it togather. We will put a gate fee + $50.00 buy in per car, then add all the buy in money to the pot....Lets hear your thoughts....
Would be nice to see atleast a 10 car field, which should be NO PROBLEM if the pay-out is there...

EddyB

[OldSkoolRCR]

When is the qcaaf race ed?

June 9th Mike @ Cordova....Doug is going to post up about it.

[Deimos]

Whats wrong with e85? That stuff rocks.

[OldSkoolRCR]

Nothing wrong with it, but I will out run ya with PUMP....let me know when your ready to see it happen!

[Deimos]

My junk is in pieces but once they come back to me I might be down. The trick is to get it done before my 24 weeks is up and I will have even less freetime and lots less money.

[BGjohnson]

The money seems so easy. Can I race you with a pedal bike??

[AutoMods]

Good news, CFR quoted us a lot better price this year. All on sundays for private track 4 hour rental if we volunteer a few of our guys to help with staging and the waterbox and moping. June and july only but perhaps a later date may open up.

What do you say Eddyb, you pay $850 and collect from your auto guys??? I front the other $850 and gather entry fees from manual tranny contestants . not sure how charging for spectators works on private rental days

[Deimos]

The money seems so easy. Can I race you with a pedal bike??

Done and done thats a boost controller right there.

As for thebtrack rental I had a blast at last years shootout even though I wasnt racing.

[OldSkoolRCR]

WOW! Ryan...he wants how much for the 4hrs rental? plus he wants us to run the track for him, and hes having hard time giving you an exact date? maybee 1 of the 24 days he has closed listed on his site would work....Rumor has it he can not find employess this year....Tell ya what you grab a mop and have at it, I go to the track to race not work....lol

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I don't think it would be hard to find some people to work the staging area, there are plenty of mouths on here with nothing.to.race...but for the money I think we're would need some more time..

[Sunny Z]

Wait, so 1700/ 4hrs? Or does that include payouts.

I'm confused.

[AutoMods]

Sundays, June 16&29, and July 28. Works out to be about $50 per car if 35 cars . Last year we had 23 cars I believe. Probably 2-3x the amount of spectators, have them throw in some money.

We could ask for more time. No that does not include money for any payouts, $1700 is strictly the rental fee.

[OldSkoolRCR]

Exactly where you going with 4 hrs....We couldnt even run a good 10 car feild of 10.5 in 4 hrs! and you wanna add stick car shoot out, a auto class, ya right!, 1 incident 1 oil down, and its game over, $1700.00 what a crook, he should be thankfull to have cars there and gate fees comming in, he getting free labor, WTF....Thats why that track will be closed in a few years! I wish I could get some investors togather and buy that track, and run it like it should be ran!

[Batwood]

So when does Eddy B's track day 2013 start? I'll pay for a professionally set up event. LS/Shitstaing Shootout 2013!!!

[OldSkoolRCR]

Batwood....wouldnt be much of a LS/Shitstang shooutout, I got 1 LS fbody that would clean up all you guys and after Im done Fiddy can have the leftovers, June 9th QCAAF bring them killers on down...youll get all the action you need...lol

[Batwood]

Haha we'll see. I'll drive wherever and get my ass kicked... then drive home! Did it last year with 7.5 pistons even! I totally should have gotten the biggest break award.
1166

[AutoMods]

Exactly where you going with 4 hrs....We couldnt even run a good 10 car feild of 10.5 in 4 hrs! and you wanna add stick car shoot out, a auto class, ya right!, 1 incident 1 oil down, and its game over, $1700.00 what a crook, he should be thankfull to have cars there and gate fees comming in, he getting free labor, WTF....Thats why that track will be closed in a few years! I wish I could get some investors togather and buy that track, and run it like it should be ran!

I thought you and Dan @ cfr got along, what happened ?

[skipdownstairs]

So that is from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm and the racing starting at noon? what are the qcaaf paying to rent the track? Nice Dan wants to fill some dead race weekends in the middle of the hottest damn days of summer. Racing into the night would be alright on a Saturday would be ideal

Thanks for checking that out Ryan

[allgo]

Batwood....wouldnt be much of a LS/Shitstang shooutout, I got 1 LS fbody that would clean up all you guys and after Im done Fiddy can have the leftovers, June 9th QCAAF bring them killers on down...youll get all the action you need...lol

I might have something to say about the ls clean up...lol

[OldSkoolRCR]

I thought you and Dan @ cfr got along, what happened ?

I dont have a prob with Dan, but shit hes got 24 days on his schedule closed...why not give you one of those days at a decent price?

[OldSkoolRCR]

I might have something to say about the ls clean up...lol

Well get to saying it then...lol

[slow ride]

I'll check with a friend that knows Dan and see whats up. It does seem a little steep for what they are offering. If we helped with the track stuff one would think they could come down some on price and give up a few more hours. I mean the track is just collecting dust on those closed days so why not make some cash. Anybody ever ask triskate?

[Deimos]

Some cas iis better than no cash

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

I asked cassil a year ago and told me $1000 for track fee for a ten5 deal. He would fit it in a race day.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

I like tristate, very nice people run the place. I'm sure we could have one of Andy's guys prep the track like fly paper.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Not sure what the cost would be now due to more inflation.

[OldSkoolRCR]

I asked cassil a year ago and told me $1000 for track fee for a ten5 deal. He would fit it in a race day.

Good deal!

[skipdownstairs]

Just talked to Cassil he said we come over for a 10.5 race he will just charge us 25.00 a car and we handle all the payouts for the class. He said it would be ran on a normal race day so we would have a race track.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Bad ass Andy!

[Sunny Z]

So what track is this? Actual location?

[slow ride]

Tirstate is located in Earville IA on highway 20. It's about 45 minutes further east on 20 for you than CF.

[fox_stang]

WTF!!!! You all scared of a 150K worn out stock internal LS1? You got that BAD Cobra all tuned up dont ya?...lol I bet Fiddy wins again this year, any takers on a small bet?

ill take that bet! ;)

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Bring cash, don't accept checks

[fox_stang]

got some kinks worked out of the car from last year...and i bought a new battery..lol.....lookin forward to actualy gettin to run fiddy this year...had a great time last year even though my battery took a shit right before i raced fiddy...( i faked it i was scared...lol)...you guys are all awesome..we need to all get together once a month or something

[fox_stang]

Bring cash, don't accept checks

damnit....already had a check made out..lol

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Smart man, preparing for the inevitable lol

[fox_stang]

Smart man, preparing for the inevitable lol

haha..win or lose its all fun....until you break something

[FiFdYnUtZ]

True

[Sunny Z]

Bump

So is there a date for this then?

[AutoMods]

I just talked to Dan@cfr again today, they have a busy schedule and also lots of days they are closed at CFR to help with other big events at Cordova or other Special Events. They are not even open the entire 2nd half of August. And nothing works in September. He said Saturday July 27th , October 5th and October 19th are good days to guarantee we'll get all our passes in.

I have something going on the weekend of July 27th but could possibly skip. I'm voting for October 5th. I know last year's Oct 20th event was chilly but that was a below average day and we'd be a couple weeks earlier this year. Average high is 67 degrees in CF on Oct 5.

What do you guys think?

[Sunny Z]

I'm good whenever. I have a wedding one weekend in October, not sure which.

[Newgen]

Oct would be good with me. Give me a chance to get saved back up after the big move.

[sparkles]

I'll be in Osh Kosh in July. October 5th is my vote

[BGjohnson]

October should work decent, it will be cooler. Better for breaking shit!

[RedRocketZ28]

October should work decent, it will be cooler. Better for breaking shit!

Shit could be broken long before that though. Haha.

[Newgen]

Shit could be broken long before that though. Haha.

Story of my life the last two years lol.

[AutoMods]

I heard back from Dan@CFR today. Oct 5th is the official date for the Iowa street car shootout.

I think I am going to officially bow out of any efforts with an Auto class and focus on promoting a bigger manual class. If someone wants to take charge of promoting an Auto class, payouts, trophies, promoting etc, please step up.

[Phish]

Would you do the same if your car was an auto? . . . .

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Should just change the name to "Ryan daos whatever my car is shoot-out"...this is retarded, ill be staying home this year

[Phish]

I will do the same... I know that this year Matt switched to an auto, Andy is runnign an auto, Brandi will now have an auto , I have an auto... thats four of us that are out that were looking forward to the shootout...

[Newgen]

I will probably be done with the forum is this is the case. Its hard to have any motiviation to be active when people continue to limit the participation you can have with the forum. Ya know besides being a key board hero....

[derek072887]

Why don't all the auto guys come up with some rules on your own, that always seems to be the issue with having an auto class.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I'm not even qualified to run the portion of the forum I created anymore...why don't you.make the rules Derek, you seem to know it all

[Newgen]

Why don't all the auto guys come up with some rules on your own, that always seems to be the issue with having an auto class.

Thats the thing about me. I don't bitch about the rules. Someone make up some damn rules and i'll show up. I don't care if I get beat on all day. I'm there to run some passes and hangout with other car enthusiast. Let the damn 10.5 guys show up let the grudge racers show up I don't give a shit. The 1st year I went to the shootout where the auto's and stick class still ran together. That was the best year imo. That was 2011.

[derek072887]

I'm not even qualified to run the portion of the forum I created anymore...why don't you.make the rules Derek, you seem to know it all
Why do you feel the need to attack me... you know as well as every single person on this forum that agreeing on the rules last year took MONTHS AND MONTHS of bitching and complaining (mostly by you and ed). Just STFU list out some rules you think will work and let the other auto guys agree or disagree...

[Phish]

I dont even see what the big rule deal is... Run what you brung. Only catch, registered with the state. No plate no run. Only rule.

[Newgen]

I dont even see what the big rule deal is... Run what you brung. Only catch, registered with the state. No plate no run. Only rule.

:la::hitit::hump:

[skipdownstairs]

Looks like you guys just want to have a good time. I see it looks like the stick class has it figured out. Whats their main limiting factor, does it have to be no faster than a 10 sec car and must be a stick? Why cant you guys go along the guidelines that you must have a auto and never ran quicker than 10?? otherwise you have a laundry list of rules that sucks for everyone Just keep it simple and fun thats what its about.

[AutoMods]

I dont even see what the big rule deal is... Run what you brung. Only catch, registered with the state. No plate no run. Only rule.

any car can be plated. if you want no rules, there is the Iowa Outlaw 10.5 class on the same day at CFR. If you don't want to run with low 8 second cars, I would suggest rules similar to the ones I made up last year. But all I hear is people complaining. complain how the rules are dumb or complain if they would have to run with too fast of cars, complain that I tailored the rules. how can i tailor the rules for a class i don't even race in?

Fifdy wouldn't even commit to the event until the day off. wins the trophy and $100 and then for the next year complains how dumb the race is. there was only 5 auto participants last year and I had to work hard to gather those people. i didn't seem to have anyone help gather participants. caleb auto won't be racing this year, logan's audi was just ran for the hell of it last year and he won't be running it again. i'm sure fifdy won't commit to it until last minute again.

[AutoMods]

Why cant you guys go along the guidelines that you must have a auto and never ran quicker than 10?? otherwise you have a laundry list of rules that sucks for everyone Just keep it simple and fun thats what its about.

reminds me about the complaints i had about the 10 second rule too. people saying it was just an index race or bracket race :) can't win

but i like to see everyone show up. hate to exclude anyone. and it is an open test and tune day so if someone won't step up and organize an auto race you can always run test and tune.

[sparkles]

2 classes; 1 stick and 1 for auto. Same rules

1. Must be a member of this forum or DS and not sign up just to run this event. That ought to be pretty easy to figure out
2. Must be plated
3. Any tire (I know this caused a lot of issues last year. We're drag racing, not street racing. Let em run them if they own them.)
4. Stock style suspension
5. Must have at least 2 seats

Thoughts?

[Phish]

I still dont see whats to organize outside of the manual class.. have exactly the same rules as the manual just divide it between manual and auto. So when someone enters just ask them what they run and put them in that class. Why does the auto class have to have a seperate set of rules. I also dont see why everyone cant just be in one class anyway. Especially if there is a "no cars faster then 10.0 ET" rule. I say one class autos and manuals together and all issues are solved.

[Phish]

Why was everyone split into two classes anyway?

[sparkles]

Because the original event was just manuals. Autos were added later because Ed cried.

[AutoMods]

Manual class has no 10.00 second rule. Only rule is no face plated trans and clutch pedal

[Phish]

well throw in the 10 second rule and call it a one class day.... or a 9.5 rule... seems like a small rule change would allow the majority or people to run

[Xboosted23X]

2 classes; 1 stick and 1 for auto. Same rules


5. Must have at least 2 seats

Thoughts?

Whoa now we have to have two seats. This is BS
I concur less rules more racing.

[Newgen]

I still dont see whats to organize outside of the manual class.. have exactly the same rules as the manual just divide it between manual and auto. So when someone enters just ask them what they run and put them in that class. Why does the auto class have to have a seperate set of rules. I also dont see why everyone cant just be in one class anyway. Especially if there is a "no cars faster then 10.0 ET" rule. I say one class autos and manuals together and all issues are solved.

I don't see why there split either. Whatever.

[Sunny Z]

Sounds just like the guys at my work. They announced the BONUS amount today, and everyone was pissed because they thought that it should be more. No one ever seems to be happy.

I would like to include the autos. Best way? IDK.

Ryan - face it, you cant win here.


Someone make a poll. Majority rules?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxiSe4iwwGE

[Newgen]

Sounds just like the guys at my plant. They announced the BONUS amount today, and everyone was pissed because they thought that it should be more. No one ever seems to be happy.

I would like to include the autos. Best way? IDK.

Ryan - face it, you cant win here.


Someone make a poll. Majority rules?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxiSe4iwwGE

Not quite sure how that's relevant... You're comparing a group of people that at least are getting something to something where its being eliminated all together.... I don't give a shit what the rules are as long as I can participate. Is that asking to much?

[Sunny Z]

Never Mind. You missed the point. I'll just shut my mouth and kick back.

[derek072887]

Ryan never said there wasn't the option for an auto class, he just chose not to be the organizer of it and asked for someone to step in. Everyone here is just bitching instead of stepping in and making the class.

[AutoMods]

The manual class will stay the way it is. That's the way it started and has been for 3 of the 4 years. its simple and we are able to keep the rules basic for that class as long as it stays all manuals. lets be honest, autos have an advantage with drag racing both with ET and consistency.

the auto class is tough because you have a lot of serious drag auto cars as well as more modest street autos. The original goal was to make a class for more of a standard street car with an auto, hence all the rules. There are already many classes for the drag cars, 10.5 races and classes like Mike's small tire shootout.

[AutoMods]

I will do the same... I know that this year Matt switched to an auto, Andy is runnign an auto, Brandi will now have an auto , I have an auto... thats four of us that are out that were looking forward to the shootout...

well to make things easy. If you, matt, Andy (redrocket?) , brandi, fifdy, lt1dan will commit to participating in the auto class with last years rules. Id say that is good start and enough people to justify the race. andy smith from fort madison said he is coming with his mustang again. him and fifdy would've been a good race but his battery died last year.

[Newgen]

well to make things easy. If you, matt, Andy (redrocket?) , brandi, fifdy, lt1dan will commit to participating in the auto class with last years rules. Id say that is good start and enough people to justify the race. andy smith from fort madison said he is coming with his mustang again. him and fifdy would've been a good race but his battery died last year.

I'm down no complaints here. I imagine Zach with the big block Buick regal will be in as well.

[Phish]

I will commit.

[Domestic Disturbance]

I'll be there with whichever of my vehicles runs. If my truck and honda run I will enter in both classes and trailer the race car up. The division started initially because head to head racing with stick cars is a whole different game. A lot less efficient way of racing etc etc. But I think due to lack of time in the day having both classes run separately wouldn't work.

I like seeing all you clowns. You're fun people generally. No one is getting rich off of this. If you don't like racing, socializing, seeing goofy trophies or eating snack pack pudding then I guess you should probably not go debby downers!

[RedRocketZ28]

I'm willing to participate and have fun. I don't care if I get beat on all day by "race cars". I will be more about the socializing and hanging out rather than getting caught up in all drama. I don't have anything to prove to anyone.

[Phish]

I can agree with andy on this. We all make a weekend "guys trip" out of this event. All i want to do is run with the group and see my name at the bottom of the bracket somewhere. I never expect to win these things.

[Deimos]

Snickerlicker wont make it his secret mod backfired....

http://www.newswest9.com/story/22698761/car-explodes-in-midland

[skipdownstairs]

Lmfao!

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

Holy shit!

[snickerlicker]

Snickerlicker wont make it his secret mod backfired....

http://www.newswest9.com/story/22698761/car-explodes-in-midland

I've was never been stupid enough to use NOSSS...

[sLoWnStEaDy]

"street car" shootout eh...? So, you have to drive the car to the track, make your passes and drive it home to win anything then? :) I'll bring the Fiero, run a 13 and hope everybody else breaks so I win by default.

[Deimos]

Power tour style

[sparkles]

Judging by last year, that might be a good chance. Seems like everyone had problems staying together.

[AutoMods]

"street car" shootout eh...? So, you have to drive the car to the track, make your passes and drive it home to win anything then?

not a bad idea, discussed and turned down in previous years discussions. but i'm pretty sure you knew that and are just stirring the pot

[sLoWnStEaDy]

not a bad idea, discussed and turned down in previous years discussions. but i'm pretty sure you knew that and are just stirring the pot

I had no idea actually... and you should know I'm not really one to "stir the pot". I just hate all the "street cars" that get trailered everywhere. That new stupid ass show "Street Outlaws" or whatever renewed my hatred for it which inspired my post.

Trailer a car somehwere, pull it off for 2-3 minutes, put it back on the trailer and call it a "street car" BULLSHIIIT!! You can throw a formula/Nascar/Sprint car on the street for a few seconds too, doesn't make it a street car

[sparkles]

To problem is that nobody from DM wants to drive all the way up there and then break with no trailer. Figure a way to make that work without being a PITA and it would probably work. Heck, pick 1 unbiased person on here and let them decide if it qualifies as a street car or not. I don't care.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

To problem is that nobody from DM wants to drive all the way up there and then break with no trailer. Figure a way to make that work without being a PITA and it would probably work. Heck, pick 1 unbiased person on here and let them decide if it qualifies as a street car or not. I don't care.

I pretty much hate everyone equally, that kinda makes me unbiased. LOL ok, I don't hate anyone...

I get if people are driving hours to go, they'll want to have a trailer. Personally, when I think "street car", I think full (or damn close) interior, licensed/insured (so obviously, headlights, taillights, turn signals, etc...), street legal tires, and gets driven on a regular basis. If you can't drive it to the track and take it on a few hour cruise, its not a street car. Trailering home because you broke is completely different.

[StreetSweeper]

Im dusting off the coat comming out of retirment with ZERO seat time on nothing but a harley to fuck all you guys up!!! Ryan your first beeeotch!

[AutoMods]

the basic goal of our shootout was to race cars that are actually driven on the street. its a small enough event that we pretty much know everyone who participates and with pre-registration everyone can see whose entering and not much b.s. can slip through. most people drive anyway. casey martin drove from des moines one year and won. i drove last year and won. fifdy drove and won, etc.

i understand trailering for the breakage risk. hauling tires, tools etc. some people have race gas for the track and don't want to waste it driving etc etc.

[AutoMods]

Im dusting off the coat comming out of retirment with ZERO seat time on nothing but a harley to fuck all you guys up!!! Ryan your first beeeotch!

I heard you were building a manual tranny fox body to come fuck us all up. is that true?

[StreetSweeper]

I heard you were building a manual tranny fox body to come fuck us all up. is that true?

Don't get all giddy and excited and shit. The only manual tranny i own is in my XB!

[sparkles]

Don't get all giddy and excited and shit. The only manual tranny i own is in my XB!
Please tell me you dont own a Scion

[Deimos]

Please tell me you dont own a Scion

Xb with a stick.

[K-ville]

cage rules are stupid. and on that not im out.

[JustaGT]

cage rules are stupid. and on that not im out.
What are the rules on cages anyway?
I see the auto class stuff on the other thread but nothing about manuals.
I'm assuming nothing too crazy as most of us have cage setups?

[AutoMods]

cage rules are stupid. and on that note im out.

do you meet all the other rules? are you racing in the small tire outlaw shootout that is on the same day @ cfr ?


What are the rules on cages anyway?
I see the auto class stuff on the other thread but nothing about manuals.
I'm assuming nothing too crazy as most of us have cage setups?

there is no cage rules on the manual side. auto class allows up to a 12 point cage. Cages for 8.50 and quicker are against the rules and the class wasn't really designed for cars that quick. The rules were originally copied from KOTS

these are the types of cages not allowed

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q532/275RADIAL/20130328_190635_zpsc9e1822b.jpg

[K-ville]

do you meet all the other rules? are you racing in the small tire outlaw shootout that is on the same day @ cfr ?



there is no cage rules on the manual side. auto class allows up to a 12 point cage. Cages for 8.50 and quicker are against the rules and the class wasn't really designed for cars that quick. The rules were originally copied from KOTS

these are the types of cages not allowed

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q532/275RADIAL/20130328_190635_zpsc9e1822b.jpg

I didn't say its stupid I can't race in it I said the rule is stupid. But yes I meet every other rule except my horn is gone but one bolt and two wires I'd have it.

I don't plan what going to race yet because my cars not even done.

[93stang5oh]

But yes I meet every other rule except my horn is gone but one bolt and two wires I'd have it.


Do they seriously check to see if your horn is working???

[skipdownstairs]

She always checks checks to see if my horn still works ;)

[K-ville]

Do they seriously check to see if your horn is working???

Its in the rules it has to have one... not sure if its checked

[derek072887]

Do they seriously check to see if your horn is working???

The only time we would check things like this is if its pretty obvious that your car is on the verge of being a full blown race car, ya know kinda like those ones with full funny car cages. ;)

[K-ville]

The only time we would check things like this is if its pretty obvious that your car is on the verge of being a full blown race car, ya know kinda like those ones with full funny car cages. ;)

Its okay use whatever excuse you would like because we all know its just an excuse. Not to mention about as lame of an excuse as it gets. Your cars to safe you can't compete!

[FiFdYnUtZ]

funny car cage in a daily driver street car class? lets use a little common sense here.

[Scott]

funny car cage in a daily driver street car class? lets use a little common sense here.

Im sure he doesnt make near the power as that TT cobra thats allowed to race, but since he values his safety and put in a suitable cage that DQ's him.. Theres alot of things that dont make sense, its a Ryan picks the cars race not a street car race

[K-ville]

funny car cage in a daily driver street car class? lets use a little common sense here.

1000+ HP bolt in cage convertible.... common sense can be a matter of opinion. My cars a streetcar with the safety stuff to support what its capable of. You could funny car cage a bone stock fox does that make it not a streetcar?.. slower cars always find an excuse period!

[derek072887]

1000+ HP bolt in cage convertible.... common sense can be a matter of opinion. My cars a streetcar with the safety stuff to support what its capable of. You could funny car cage a bone stock fox does that make it not a streetcar?.. slower cars always find an excuse period!

Rules can be lifted, just like with the TT cobra, but its our understanding your car won't be finished this year though.

[K-ville]

Rules can be lifted, just like with the TT cobra, but its our understanding your car won't be finished this year though.

Again... not about my car even though my car fits the discussion. My point is still its a stupid rule.

[SinnerGSX]

Maybe should modify to say Street "Appearing" ?

A "street" car so fast that it needs a rollcage? Well find a way to hide the roll cage haha because factory interior does not include custom fabbed steel piping.

I don't even know why I'm commenting on this. I'm not even auto.
Trolololololo

[K-ville]

just do whats already being done by bullshit rules and make a bracket car class..

[OldSkoolRCR]

[QUOTE=Scott;199335, its a Ryan picks the cars race not a street car race[/QUOTE]

OUCH!!!!! Thats some Funny AZZ shit right there....Get um Scotty!!!

[AutoMods]

My cars a streetcar with the safety stuff to support what its capable of. You could funny car cage a bone stock fox does that make it not a streetcar?.. slower cars always find an excuse period!

no offense but your car is more dangerous with the bird cage on the street. i know you will probably pad it up real good if you plan on driving on the street without a helmet. even padded, I'm not sure how safe it would be without a helmet.

if your car is capable of low 8's then this really the class for you. the original goal of the class is 10-12 second cars. its no secret that the rules were picked to purposely weed out cars that were faster. 99% of cars with a 25.x cage are not going to be running 10-12 second ET's so its a perfect rule to have for the class. I'm not hating on safety or 8 second cars. Just trying to make a race for that group of cars.

I did lift the 10.0 index rule this year so its even more important to have a strong set of rules to create a natural group 10-12 second cars.

[K-ville]

no offense but your car is more dangerous with the bird cage on the street. i know you will probably pad it up real good if you plan on driving on the street without a helmet. even padded, I'm not sure how safe it would be without a helmet.

if your car is capable of low 8's then this really the class for you. the original goal of the class is 10-12 second cars. its no secret that the rules were picked to purposely weed out cars that were faster. 99% of cars with a 25.x cage are not going to be running 10-12 second ET's so its a perfect rule to have for the class. I'm not hating on safety or 8 second cars. Just trying to make a race for that group of cars.

I did lift the 10.0 index rule this year so its even more important to have a strong set of rules to create a natural group 10-12 second cars.

been allot of debates on funny car cages on the street... yet to see someone prove they are more dangerous. But most important point to what your saying a helmet would be worn while i raced on a track so it would in fact be safer for your race! i just dont get it i guess make an index class or a bracket or.... let anyone race with a street legal registered tagged insured streetcar.

meant to also say i get what your going for but it seems dumb to me to exclude a car that is fast basically only for being fast.

[K-ville]

crap... was just thinking about it and i cant drive my dart on the street anymore... it has steel door panels and a steel dash with a thin liitle pad over it along with a non collapsible steering wheel which means not a streetcar! lol

[AutoMods]

I would agree the cage is useful at the track with the helmet on. Its just that you find those kind of cages on mainly dedicated drag cars which is not the goal of the race.


crap... was just thinking about it and i cant drive my dart on the street anymore... it has steel door panels and a steel dash with a thin liitle pad over it along with a non collapsible steering wheel which means not a streetcar! lol

most likely your head will go through the side window and break it, or hopefully your seat belt will slow you down and/or restrain you from hitting the steering wheel/dash. but the bars surrounding your head in your mustang are much closer and have zero give.

put some roll bar padding on a metal baseball bat and have someone hit you on the head with it and let me know how it feels :)

i stole that last analogy from here.....a bit of discussion http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495063

[90 notch]

I can see k villes point,so if it has a 12 point cage and runs 7.50's you guys are cool with that?just trying to clarify.

[90 notch]

We could dig something up..Steve o

[K-ville]

I would agree the cage is useful at the track with the helmet on. Its just that you find those kind of cages on mainly dedicated drag cars which is not the goal of the race.



most likely your head will go through the side window and break it, or hopefully your seat belt will slow you down and/or restrain you from hitting the steering wheel/dash. but the bars surrounding your head in your mustang are much closer and have zero give.

put some roll bar padding on a metal baseball bat and have someone hit you on the head with it and let me know how it feels :)

i stole that last analogy from here.....a bit of discussion http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495063

the only valid point you made was they are found more often in drag cars than street cars. everything else is dependent on the type of crash and events that occur in the crash period. ive been volunteer and a firefighter as a profession.. safe devices can always increase and decrease the likely hood of injury in a crash. there have been crashes a occupant would have survived had they not been buckled up! does that mean your better off no using seat belts? of course not!!! now im not trying to say a halo makes you safer because i dont think it does but the you will die if you hit a pot hole approach your taking against it is over the top.

and as far as the dart goes you must have more faith in a lap belt than i do! but im gunna drive it anyway cuz im crazy like that

[K-ville]

I can see k villes point,so if it has a 12 point cage and runs 7.50's you guys are cool with that?just trying to clarify.

it does until you show up with said car then a new rule will be made not allowing it lol

[sLoWnStEaDy]

its a "Ryan picks the cars race" not a "street car race"

Someone else said it... good

[K-ville]

Someone else said it... good

See the general consensus is the same here.. just being said in different ways haha

[90 notch]

I have something...do i have to register?

[AutoMods]

I can see k villes point,so if it has a 12 point cage and runs 7.50's you guys are cool with that?just trying to clarify.

I don't see how it would be possible to run anywhere near those times and not get kicked out after one pass with a 12 point


Someone else said it... good

really? did you get denied entry? the only person who has had issues entering and has actually had a car ready to go was eddyb. there was a lot of discussion about it and i didn't call the shots by myself

[OldSkoolRCR]

"I don't see how it would be possible to run anywhere near those times and not get kicked out after one pass with a 12 point"

Ryan you should leave CR a lil more often, I seen a number of 7s cars at KOTS this year at the Da Grove with 12pt cages,

[sLoWnStEaDy]

I don't see how it would be possible to run anywhere near those times and not get kicked out after one pass with a 12 point



really? did you get denied entry? the only person who has had issues entering and has actually had a car ready to go was eddyb. there was a lot of discussion about it and i didn't call the shots by myself

I'm a completely outside and unbiased point of view as I have no intentions of participating. You guys use the term "street car" pretty losely as it is already, IMO... I don't see why it matters what kind of cage someone has in there car. I seen a road race car with a crazy cage that would be lucky to run 11's but it stiffens the otherwise weak structure of the car which is why he did it. I could be wrong here but I believe nitrous is NOT legal to have hooked up on the street, therefore any car running nitrous would no longer be "street legal" as soon as they hook up the bottle. :biggthumpup: (okay, the nitrous comment was just to be a dick...)


Plus, I don't have an LS/T-56 so I don't think I'd qualify anyway...? ;-)


Ryan you should leave CR a lil more often, I seen a number of 7s cars at KOTS this year at the Da Grove with 12pt cages,

And i've seen 14+ second cars with 12pt+ cages... LOL

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Wow this is retarded

[c_mart_28]

Guys all Ryan is trying to do is make this a competative event. If all you want to do is poke holes in his reasoning then fine, bring a 7 second car that will destroy the field at half throttle. That would be awesome.

Why not let this be a street car event as defined by it's organizer? If that means you are excluded then I'm sorry, you obviously have a very built car that I'm sure can compete in many other events.

Show some support to a guy making an effort.

[AutoMods]

everything i do is based off everyone's input. I told kenny i didn't have a problem with his exhaust being too short, he had a couple people vouch for him and I asked anybody who objected to chime in. doesn't sound like a dictatorship to me. i stated i didn't want to be in charge of the auto class and asked for any volunteers and nobody offered to take charge.


it boils down to integrity and honesty, if you really want to sneak an 8 second car into a class designed for cars a few seconds slower then ultimately i can't stop you. there has always been classes already available for the faster guys.

[sparkles]

I seen a road race car with a crazy cage that would be lucky to run 11's but it stiffens the otherwise weak structure of the car which is why he did it.

Guy sounds like a douche



Ryan, I'll volunteer to be in charge of the auto class.

[sparkles]

Only things that are going to be allowed are Chevy Cruzes or Pewter Silverados

[Batwood]

Guys all Ryan is trying to do is make this a competative event. If all you want to do is poke holes in his reasoning then fine, bring a 7 second car that will destroy the field at half throttle. That would be awesome.

Why not let this be a street car event as defined by it's organizer? If that means you are excluded then I'm sorry, you obviously have a very built car that I'm sure can compete in many other events.

Show some support to a guy making an effort.

Exactly what I was thinking. Who is gonna bring their street car to an event and try to race some 10.5 cars? It would be pointless.

[StreetSweeper]

Exactly what I was thinking. Who is gonna bring their street car to an event and try to race some 10.5 cars? It would be pointless.
What exactly are you implying by that? Are you referring to a class car or a 10.5 car? Because majority of stock suspension street cars sit on a 10.5 inch tire these days just want you to clear that up.