Hey Jesse

[Deimos]

What kind of flanges are on these.

http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/deimos140/turboheaders.jpg

Also have you heard good things on exile turbos?

[AutoMods]

i'd answer your question but my name isn't jesse so i'll let him answer

[Deimos]

i'd answer your question but my name isn't jesse so i'll let him answer

I was hoping you could answer as well I picked these up for a dance.

[AutoMods]

the turbo inlet flanges are either t3's or t4. measure it


t3 below

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/monkeymagic/T3flange.gif

t4 below
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/monkeymagic/T4flange.gif


the wastegate hole is most likely a standard 2 bolt which is what the tial f38 uses or the pte 39mm gate. turbonetics also uses the same 2 bolt pattern on some of their gates as well as other companies.

[Deimos]

I one friend has recammended the 400s3 1.10 ar. I was wondering about exile turbos because I have always liked rick head.

[AutoMods]

never heard of exile, is is just a shop that has modified and renamed another brands turbo?

[Jappbox]

I never heard of Exile nether, But going off the picture those look like T4 Flanges.

[Deimos]

never heard of exile, is is just a shop that has modified and renamed another brands turbo?

http://www.exileturbo.com/

[86svo9L]

Hows the thickness on those? There could be a reason you got them so cheap. I tried a cheaper header that was constructed much like that one and encountered nothing but problems, could never get it sealed right and then it cracked. Thin stainless just does not hold up very well to the heat. Those could be just fine too, its hard to tell the thickness from photos on the net.

[AutoMods]

those flanges look to be pretty thick 1/2". some of the cheap stuff uses 3/8"

[Deimos]

those flanges look to be pretty thick 1/2". some of the cheap stuff uses 3/8"

This is what was suggested tell me what ya think

https://www.himni-racing.com/turbochargers/airwerks-borgwarner-s-series/borg-warner-air-werks-s400sx3-75-s475-turbo-t4-turbine

[AutoMods]

are you buying used turbos or new ? i told you i can hook you up but i don't deal with borg warner. if you want to get hooked up, you have to buy garrett, turbonetics or pte.

[AutoMods]

also, like i said before.... did you get your truck running right ? because if you didn't get it running right and you throw a turbo at it, you will just be making it more complicated and it won't fix your problems. with a light auto truck like yours and lots of good parts and high compression, you should be rocking low 11's all motor . if not you need to figure out whats wrong first.

[Deimos]

What's the equivalent to the ones above it would being buying new. Truck runs pretty good we will know more Saturday.

[AutoMods]

whats your whp goals with the turbo and your right around 350ci right? single turbo right, not duals

[AutoMods]

ohh , i guess you already bought those manis, so that is for twins. let me know if those are t3 flanges

[Deimos]

ohh , i guess you already bought those manis, so that is for twins. let me know if those are t3 flanges

Yep Twins probably the biggest I can get more towards 1/8 mile than quarter and the most power I can get. But initially it will only be 10 psi. I will know in three days. Until then I reading.

[TbTalon94]

They are T3 fanges.

[AutoMods]

turbos are sized by horsepower goals, the psi goal doesn't help me. also need to know your cubic inches

[AutoMods]

for your size engine, which i won't say as i'm not sure you want that public. but i'd go with twin 61-67mm compressor wheels and turbine wheels should be around 62-68mm. non-of those turbos will lag much and all setups should make over 1000whp. smallest you should go would be garrett gt35r's or pte or turbonetics 6262's (first two numbers are compressor wheel, last two indicates turbine wheel mm's ) would be quick spool, no lag. the turbine wheels are borderline too small and you might lose a bit of horsepower but others run them. safer bet would be twin 6665's or 6765's .81 a/rs, virtually no lag still and 1200whp or so.

slowride is going with 6265's on his 383ci ls motor. he may see a touch of lag on that setup

[Deimos]

for your size engine, which i won't say as i'm not sure you want that public. but i'd go with twin 61-67mm compressor wheels and turbine wheels should be around 62-68mm. non-of those turbos will lag much and all setups should make over 1000whp. smallest you should go would be garrett gt35r's or pte or turbonetics 6262's (first two numbers are compressor wheel, last two indicates turbine wheel mm's ) would be quick spool, no lag. the turbine wheels are borderline too small and you might lose a bit of horsepower but others run them. safer bet would be twin 6665's or 6765's .81 a/rs, virtually no lag still and 1200whp or so.

slowride is going with 6265's on his 383ci ls motor. he may see a touch of lag on that setup

I want lag but want to come into it at 4 and go to about 8-9. Of the brands listed which one is better quality and does t3 to t4 matter for hp?

I plan on a csu blow through alky carb.

[slow ride]

slowride is going with 6265's on his 383ci ls motor. he may see a touch of lag on that setup[/QUOTE]

Never, it's 10.0:1 bish (well 9.8-10.0:1). If I keep the exhaust big and don't restirct the inlets it should be just right. I'll be pissed if it's not sort of quick to spool.

[AutoMods]

9000 redline ? definitely go on the bigger side then twin 6665's to 7068's will be good unless your trying to make 1500-2000whp . but why try to run before you walk. after 67mm (compressor wheels), most people are running t4 flanges, its a bigger pattern so it has more flow potential obviously.

garrett, pte and turbonetics are all good, garretts are a bit overpriced on a lot of their larger gt series stuff imo. turbonetics has my lowest warranty claims by far. pte generally make a bit more power for their size, their wheels are really efficient. i'd go turbonetics for the price

[Scott]

9000 redline ? ............ but why try to run before you walk.

Well he did already go from nitrous to twin turbo blow thru alcohol carburator... and 9000rpm?? seriously

Jake I would have to vote that you make it run NA before trying to go all crazy with these power adders

[AutoMods]

I know you said your going to test the truck out this weekend. but if its not running like it should you should post up some info about it and maybe someone will have some ideas. i don't recall you ever posting much info about whats really going on.

[slow ride]

yea, a blow through carb/turbo setup is about the hardest thing to get right I think.

[Deimos]

Obviously I won't turn it much past 8. But yeah heard there is a guy semi local that can set her for me.

[Scott]

Not saying it cant be done at all.. Just need to get a clear goal in mind is all, saying you want to make as much power as possible turning a 430CID engine to 9000 rpm has no end to it, theres people running twin 88mm pro mod turbos in applications like that making 2000+hp. This whole game is never ending, cant excatly just "get it set" and then expect it to run fine forever, its something that will need constant attention to get it running right and keep running right.

Sorry if it comes off negative and I dont want to discourage you here but from my point of view I would suggest sticking with a combo till you can understand it, work out the bugs and tune it yourself. Look at some of the simlar combos around this area and how long it takes them to figure it out, it can and usually does take years to get it down the track consistantly and up to its potential. I've seen blow thrus work great before and I've also seen experienced people get very frustrated with them as all, just understand its going to be a bumpy road compared to what you have now

[Drifte]

What happened jake? Somebody poot a whoopin' on the truck? Keep running that beast n/a and get it painted! Make it capable of going on some cruises, car shows, and the obvious- Burnout contests.

[sparkles]

Evidently, those burnout contests are bad for TT Cobras and their head gaskets....

[Deimos]

T3 flanges

[TbTalon94]

I told you that 2 pages ago.

[AutoMods]

^ you need to up your posts per page in your profile, i'm still on page 1 :)

my journal bearing spins pretty well, rivals that of ball bearings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5znCKN5qdRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5znCKN5qdRA

[Jappbox]

Mine spin forever to, comps Ball Bearing, First time I have heard them the old ones must have been shot because This is the first time I can hear mine winding down after Im parked and get out of the car. and those suckers are tucked up under i bet I can hear them from 30 seconds and who knows how long they spin after that.

[Deimos]

If these can be bad with a T3 flange then why do they make the turbo? http://turboneticsinc.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_91&product_id=81... Just info on the turbo's...

[AutoMods]

If these can be bad with a T3 flange then why do they make the turbo? http://turboneticsinc.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_91&product_id=81... Just info on the turbo's...

for people that already have t3 manifolds and don't want to buy t4 ones ;) it'll work, just won't have as much power as a t4 version of it. the max a/r on those t3's is 0.84 A/R which may be equivalent to a t4 68 a/r . If you had t4's you would have the option of .81 a/r, .96 a/r and even larger divided turbine a/r .

if you think you really need t72's then you might want t4 manifolds. but your looking at 1500whp+ there. I have 5.7 liters pushing my single t72 turbo. even i have a touch of lag on the street. You would have just over 3 liters (one bank) pushing one of your twin t72's .

supras run t4 flanges and they are running a lot of 60mm-72mm turbos. evo's, dsms run t3 flanges until the 62mm mark and some start switching to t4 . like i said before, after 67mm you mostly see t4 flanges.

[AutoMods]

if it were me, i'd just get some 66-67's. try it out. they will spool good. if you get tire of 1200+whp then you can think larger at that time. its not the end of the world if you sell them as used in switch in the future. You'd only lose a couple hundred doing that

[slow ride]

Well Journal bearings do ride on a film of oil and when the engine is off the oil is........... Best thing about ball bearing is the elevated thrust load capacity under high back pressure conditions. I know my old journal bearing k03's in the s4 are still humming along with 121k on them though. I'm sure the backpressure is through the roof on those little guys when cranked up.

[Jappbox]

I would get some 65-66mm turbos with as big of hotside as you can in T3 form. You will sll have lag and it will change your TQ and HP curve and shft it to the right alot.

[Deimos]

Where is a good place to purchase T4 flanges?

[AutoMods]

stainless or mild?

[Deimos]

Stainless you sell them?

[Deimos]

test fit http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz267/deimos140/IMAG0188.jpg

anyone got a 68 housing for mock up to make sure I can clear the master?

[Deimos]

Thanks Ryan. This is what I'm talking about. http://dansracingsupply.com/contents/en-us/p256.html

[Deimos]

I like this one and I can keep my master cylinder... http://www.kugelkomponents.com/brake_setups/brake_setups180.php

[Deimos]

http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CXR&Product_Code=AWIC07&Category_Code=AWICS

[Deimos]

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=312&cat_key=63&prodname=TRTTC+Twin+Turbo+Intercooler%2C+Chevy%2C+ Corvette%2C+GM%2C+Viper

[Deimos]

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=705&cat_key=661&prodname=38mm+to+44mm+Wastegate+Adapter

[Deimos]

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=2437&cat_key=718&prodname=4.00%22+CNC+Intercooler+Lip