trans am BUILD THREAD

[garyLT1]

So Ive owned this car now for a couple years and finally decided to start pulling the engine since i finally bought a house with a garage so, i figured i would pull it due to it had some issues. this is how it sits now, the engine is on a stand and is built just need a couple more things to finish like tranny and exhuast hoping for 450hp to the wheels on a natural aspirated LT1 when complete. I'll upload engine pictures and mod list later just figured i would start a build thread.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/100_0402.jpg
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[sparkles]

Looks like you've been busy. Need to invite me over to see the new place and the old bird.

[JustinS]

Dan will approve of this thread. I just bought a house too, feels good to have a garage again.

Keep us updated!

[86svo9L]

Very nice.

[Stutz]

The honeycomb tails and ceta mod make it look 1000x better

[85XR7Project]

Niiice! Now I want one...

[Larsons Fox]

Looks like a lot of work... Just to lose to another mustang.

Haha no really it's looking good.

[LT1Dan]

Dan will approve of this thread. I just bought a house too, feels good to have a garage again.

Keep us updated!

Yep! Lol The pics with the hoist give me Vietnam style flashbacks to last summer when we were putting mine back together. Can't wait to see build details. Who are you going to have it tuned by?

[garyLT1]

Yep! Lol The pics with the hoist give me Vietnam style flashbacks to last summer when we were putting mine back together. Can't wait to see build details. Who are you going to have it tuned by?

Im not really sure yet was thinking the WS6store but im not sure cant wait to see what i get out of my engine for powerwise it will be a big change from stock.

[garyLT1]

got my beautiful heads on the block and shes almost ready to get rolling once i get a few more things
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/photo1.jpg

[Newgen]

Looks great Gary! When are you hoping to have her on the road?

[CROWN]

Im not really sure yet was thinking the WS6store but im not sure cant wait to see what i get out of my engine for powerwise it will be a big change from stock.

What PCM are you going to be using?

[garyLT1]

Looks great Gary! When are you hoping to have her on the road?

Soon I'm gunning for this month just need a good 3600 stall and headers and a flash chip

[garyLT1]

What PCM are you going to be using?

That I'm trying to figure out still since mine is a 93 I have a speed density vs the maf so I'm gonna need a flash tune chip to get my car going due to the big increase in air and fuel intake that my engine will be consuming. People have told me to call PCMforless to get a flash chip but I still need a advice on that and tuning.

[CROWN]

yea and running a 93 pcm all you can do is flash chips. PCMforless will do you well.

[garyLT1]

yea and running a 93 pcm all you can do is flash chips. PCMforless will do you well.

Ya seems like thats my only choice.

[LT1Dan]

yea and running a 93 pcm all you can do is flash chips. PCMforless will do you well.

Sorry for the threadjack, but do you tune obd-1?

[slow ride]

Can you switch to the obd2 PCM or LS1? Might cost a bit more and extra wiring but be way more flexible.

[sparkles]

Sorry for the threadjack, but do you tune obd-1?

Yeah, I'd like to know too. Specifically the 7730 ECM

[CROWN]

We don't have any software for obd1 nor a chip burner at this moment.

[sparkles]

What if I had the software, laptop, and an emulator?

[CROWN]

What software is it. I'd have to study the software first before I would do anything just to learn it.

[sparkles]

http://www.tunerpro.net/

[CROWN]

Are you local in des moines sparkles?

[sparkles]

Yeah. I'm the guy that came down for an LT1 clutch and you tried to give me a LS1 clutch ;)

[CROWN]

That wouldn't of been me. I don't deal with sales. Nor hear anything about sales lol.

[sparkles]

Ahh, just giving you guys crap anyway. I felt like someone ran over my puppy when they said they had one in stock and I drive down and there was a miscommunication on the application. I hate having to order something and wait 2 weeks for it.

[SledgeWS6]

High-jacking, but I'd like to get my Trans Am back out in DSM...maybe a get together downtown once its all put back together? Sparkles?

[garyLT1]

High-jacking, but I'd like to get my Trans Am back out in DSM...maybe a get together downtown once its all put back together? Sparkles?

seems like there are very few birds, in or around DSM. I know a few people with birds that are always willing to meet up and cruise. But the way my build is going i just i have enough money to finish it soon.

Anybody have experence with auto transmissions maybe help with a shift kit? im gonna go with a performabuilt tranny but im gonna switch after my breaking period and once i save alittle money, so i just need my tranny to hold till the end of break in.

[sparkles]

Gotta get mine back together before that can happen.

[SledgeWS6]

Ha, you guys will probably have yours back together when I start taking mine apart....

[garyLT1]

these are some more pictures on how the engine has come along last couple weeks new billet drive oil pump due to the old one had a crack on inspection and since im doing a high volume oil pump i figured better be on the safe side, msd coil, and just some other parts ive added to it all thrown together.
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had to throw in a picture of the heads
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/c2bb152f.jpg

[sparkles]

Why is your last name stamped in the back of the head?

[garyLT1]

Why is your last name stamped in the back of the head?

That's just something Lloyd Elliot does.

[garyLT1]

I know probuly not the best idea doing this but anybody on here good at cleaning up engine bays I need some help to bring mine back to life and making it look half way decent?

[snickerlicker]

Simple green the bitch.

[Drifte]

White bays look great when cleaned up. Simple green, foaming engine degreaser, foaming tire shine and pressure wash. That is, if its really dirty...

[garyLT1]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/67FBB172-44A9-44DB-B378-6F3EF3B54065-1497-000003A834C05C39.jpg
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Moving up in the world next month will be some

BOOOOOOSSSSTTTTT

[AutoMods]

hoping for 450hp to the wheels on a natural aspirated LT1 when complete.


Can a stock displacement NA lt1 can make 450whp ????

[garyLT1]

It damn well better lol I have forged internals with llyold elliot heads, LSA cam all vavletrain headers and many more goodies if it doesnt I'll just pull it next year and do a 383 llyold build. Or a LQ4 or LQ9 build would be cool just don't know yet dont know yet all I do know is I want to boost it just for fun.

[sparkles]

What did you give for the trans? Exact deal that I bought for my car last fall. Same shifter too!

[APPLES355]

Just for comparison sake. A friend of mine has an all forged 383 with ported heads, ported intake, and a few other goodies that i cant remember. His car made 405 hp and 396 ft-lbs. He had the block and heads machined to get the dcr up to the edge of running 91 octane with cam he installed. If i remember correctly a different cam choice than whats in the engine could have gain him some power, but a question on how much. His car also has long tube headers and a six speed. I could get more info on the engine if you would want. it has been 4 or 5 years since it was built. I will say that his car is a blast to drive with to torque it makes. Currently he is on his third 7.5 rear with never dumping the clutch only rolling into the throttle.

[garyLT1]

1200 for entire 6 speed swap and tranny is a built six speed built by trick performance in NC so I thought I got a good deal.

[sparkles]

That include clutch parts, pedal assembly, and console? If so, I'd say you pretty much stole it.

[garyLT1]

Included every thing tranny, console, pedals, slave cy, clutch, master cyc, trans crossmember, all the trans lines, and hardware im forgetting some some other stuf but ya everything I need. Lol

[garyLT1]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/1ADCB23A-A0B3-42F4-84D4-39029264EF01-3835-00000A289BB9A122.jpg
wiring for swap is about 90% done just need to cut the hole for the shifter and finish wiring and installing my gauages.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/DD8CFFEC-E1A0-40DC-9FA0-22F93EE38E9E-5706-000010B9BF64BC13.jpg
two beautiful trans am parked in my garage.

[sparkles]

Who's is that and what is the brown rectangle?

[garyLT1]

Who's is that and what is the brown rectangle?

its a buddy of mine named tyler and think ben the brown box is there to mach for something

[85XR7Project]

Sizing up for an intercooler?

[garyLT1]

Sizing up for an intercooler?

correct

[sparkles]

Not gonna lie, I'm a little proud little fella.

[garyLT1]

Not gonna lie, I'm a little proud little fella.

Of what lol

[garyLT1]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/C5D40F30-60A2-4CE1-BFFA-E460CC240A96-1601-0000032CD38DB689_zpse1ee4f84.jpg

Anybody ever converted a 9" to a 10 bolt setup

[sparkles]

Moser sells a kit with all the brackets to weld to it. Problem is, you can buy the housing all done up, cleaned, and powdercoated for only about $150 more than the kit costs from Quick Performance in Ames.

[sparkles]

I was wrong. It's Currie.

http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestore/productsRE.aspx?id=1769

[garyLT1]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/446BDCE1-BFAE-4551-A8A7-294B87D36ACC-1928-00000348A008AA57_zps059b5565.jpg
Two projects going at once so many parts

[Drifte]

that looks neat. I want to mount the removed part to a couple peices of tubing and add a steering wheel. A mans go-cart right there.

[garyLT1]

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[garyLT1]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/1FFFCF41-B43A-4366-8922-A446C29586D7-1107-000000BFA4905B62.jpg

[sparkles]

You STILL have those floormats? Jeez.

[garyLT1]

You STILL have those floormats? Jeez.

Don't be jealous

[sparkles]

Give them back!

[garyLT1]

Give them back!

No! Best floormats I've ever owned

[sparkles]

You are aware I still have a key for that thing, right? Reposession is a bitch.

[garyLT1]

You are aware I still have a key for that thing, right? Reposession is a bitch.

You bastard lol

[garyLT1]

1.6R NSA Rockers, rods, and guide plates all installed getting close to engine going in just need a a/c delete pulley, and LT4 knock , and then I need to get a good strong clutch but I haven't decided whether to wait till after break in or not to get one.
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[sparkles]

What's the deal with the LS motor?

[garyLT1]

It's just a buddies LS that I'm storing till we get it in his car

[Drifte]

I would do clutch now. If i remember correctly the Spec clutches use the larger diameter (ls7 style?) friction disc and therefore have more surface area. This is in comparison to ACT, who makes a good clutch as well.

[AutoMods]

a lot easier to change the clutch while the engine is out

[garyLT1]

a lot easier to change the clutch while the engine is out

Ya I should start looking at prices, seeing how much one is gonna set me back

[garyLT1]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/EFA30A12-AA17-43B6-8354-8D466A0E181F-5494-0000078DD88DBA4B.jpg
Engine is finally done and ready to be installed with tranny and my mail order tune is on its way so car will be running next weekend more pictures to come

[Newgen]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/EFA30A12-AA17-43B6-8354-8D466A0E181F-5494-0000078DD88DBA4B.jpg
Engine is finally done and ready to be installed with tranny and my mail order tune is on its way so car will be running next weekend more pictures to come

Congrats Gary!

[WhiteHemi345]

looks perdy. Did you decide on a clutch?

[garyLT1]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/25689BD3-7EE0-4728-B438-8B0528853B92-297-00000015A5F6C7FA.jpg
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Carpet picture is a bad picture I need to shampoo my cars carpet just trying to show the nice little stick shifter off. I'm just excited to go back to driving a manual again rather then my auto. Anyways engine and trans are in and exhaust is together all that needs done is wiring harness hooked up, installing my fuel pump (Walbro 255), put radiator and hoses on, install my mail order tune, and hook up my autometer gauges filling tranny, and some other small things so hopefully will be running by Saturday to test out the tune to see if its right or not

[sparkles]

Looking real good man. I like the gauges. That car has definitely turned around since you got it.

[garyLT1]

Looking real good man. I like the gauges. That car has definitely turned around since you got it.

Thanks Ben well when she's done you have to come and take a ride in her. And ya I still have some more things I want to do like rims and other things

[sparkles]

Yeah, speaking of, you never came over to take a look at mine. I'm going to throw them online FS here shortly.

[garyLT1]

Yeah, speaking of, you never came over to take a look at mine. I'm going to throw them online FS here shortly.

Ill text ya im finishing it tomarrow hopefully

[garyLT1]

just some updates to the car and hows it sitting just need two parts to finish car slave cyclinder since my buddy broke it while bleeding the brakes lol, and im also missing throttle linkage due to i lost the old one.
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[snickerlicker]

LT1Dan vs GaryLT1 coming soon to a track near you.

[LT1Dan]

LT1 sweep of the IAF Shootout this year? Gary takes manuals, I'll take auto? It could happen.

[snickerlicker]

LT1 sweep of the IAF Shootout this year? Gary takes manuals, I'll take auto? It could happen.

Get'r done!

[JacobS]

LT1 sweep of the IAF Shootout this year? Gary takes manuals, I'll take auto? It could happen.

as long as we get snack packs again, im ok with this.

[AutoMods]

LT1 sweep of the IAF Shootout this year? Gary takes manuals, I'll take auto? It could happen.

i was going to rig the shootout rules to elimintate fifdy for you. since you called me a troll not happening now

[LT1Dan]

i was going to rig the shootout rules to elimintate fifdy for you. since you called me a troll not happening now

No Snack Packs for you.

[JacobS]

No Snack Packs for you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihd4G9XxJOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihd4G9XxJOc

[stangvortech]

No Snack Packs for you.
lol

[FiFdYnUtZ]

i was going to rig the shootout rules to elimintate fifdy for you. since you called me a troll not happening now

At least you recognize the fact that's what you gotta do to win.

[derek072887]

At least you recognize the fact that's what you gotta do to win.
at least he met the requirements to race last year....

[SledgeWS6]

Looking better everyday Gary! Can't wait to see it in person!

[FiFdYnUtZ]

At least we actually raced...fucking wannabe

[RedRocketZ28]

I am excited to see it as well Gary. Looks great man.

Not to stir the shit storm in this thread already, but do you "e-thugs" act like this in person too? I sure hope not.

Carry on.

[AutoMods]

Not to stir the shit storm in this thread already, but do you "e-thugs" act like this in person too? I sure hope not.

Carry on.

Half the people don't have a car or you will never see it besides on the computer . the other half of the e-thugs including myself have never had a problem at any gatherings.

[SledgeWS6]

I am excited to see it as well Gary. Looks great man.

Not to stir the shit storm in this thread already, but do you "e-thugs" act like this in person too? I sure hope not.

Carry on.

The DSM crew, all 6 of us, got along just fine at BDubs. There was even some EcoTec trash talk going down. :D

[RedRocketZ28]

The DSM crew, all 6 of us, got along just fine at BDubs. There was even some EcoTec trash talk going down. :D

Well that's good. Seems like there is quite a bit of animosity between some members here.

[snickerlicker]

Well that's good. Seems like there is quite a bit of animosity between some members here.

That's nothing compared to the animosity between people when this site was named crunderground. Winter racing year around back then.

[90blkbrd]

just some updates to the car and hows it sitting just need two parts to finish car slave cyclinder since my buddy broke it while bleeding the brakes lol, and im also missing throttle linkage due to i lost the old one.

Keep up the good work!

[Scott]

That's nothing compared to the animosity between people when this site was named crunderground. Winter racing year around back then.

and that was nothing compared to the MSCA boards.. major shit talk there, all it was literally

[snickerlicker]

and that was nothing compared to the MSCA boards.. major shit talk there, all it was literally

Yep remember those days well!

[garyLT1]

Well progress update:
Put the car together after had a slave cyclinder issue that's to sparkles helped fixed that. And also had a wiring issue which was pretty embarrassing when you have friends videotaping the first start up and nothing happens and you can't figure out what it is lol. I think I traced it down to a bad starter. Lucky my starter was a lifetime warranty so I have a new start just haven't put it on yet, to see if it starts.

[Sleepy]

I had that issue when I first went to start my mustang. Did not have anyone video taping though. I think my heart sank through the floor.

Turned out I missed a small ground wire and it fired right up.

[SledgeWS6]

Damn F-bodies, haha. A few years ago after a long winter I had a ground fall off around the transmission and you could see my power get drained away the more I got after it, sometimes to the point where it wouldn't shift. After hunting electrical demons for two weeks, I found it. I know thine pain, hopefully the starter fixes it. :D

[sparkles]

That would be the first time I saw a starter do what it was doing. I could be wrong, but I think it's something else. I hope I'm wrong though.

[garyLT1]

My new pro-stars 15x3.5 mt up front 15x8 hoosier slicks in back. i was gonna get 15x10" in the back but this was a good deal so I couldn't pass it up rims with and tires plus I'm not running crazy amount of power so 15x8 with Hoosier slicks should suite well
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[garyLT1]

Also another update replaced the starter fixed the issue. But now I found out I need a high torque mini starter due to my high compression engine and the stock starter not having the torque to rotate my engine fast enough to get it to fire over.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Get them damn wheels on! Should look killer

[APPLES355]

The factory LT1 starter should be enough to start that motor. i have 11.3:1 on my 406 and my friend has a 383 LT1 with 11.5:1 with the factory LT1 starter without any problems. both cars also have six speeds. unless you are running higher compression than that.

[sparkles]

The LT1 starter is a high torque starter from the factory.

[garyLT1]

Well my heads are milled and I have the deck milled and I'm running just forged flat tops with 2 valve relief. I'm getting 12.5 volts to the starter when ignition is turned, the battery loaded tested great, and it starts to turn over then just after maybe one full cycle the motor stops and then the starter can't turn it then if you try again it does same thing rotates once and then nothing so... I figured my compression is to high the starter.. But the is brand new napa premium just got it new 2 weeks ago.

[garyLT1]

Update: my new washer fluid container.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/31F8DFB0-9806-4C83-82A4-719DEC4841C7-2455-0000024A554A153D.jpg

[FiFdYnUtZ]

What mount ya going with?

[garyLT1]

Prob just a 75 Just to get me to the close to the 500 whp mark or close as possible

[sparkles]

That's about as big as you can go without upgrading ignition on those.

[garyLT1]

That's about as big as you can go without upgrading ignition on those.

What kind of beer you drink Ben lol?

[sparkles]

Only the champagne of beers for this guy.

[garyLT1]

Only the champagne of beers for this guy.

So coors lol

[sparkles]

Sorry, I prefer my beer to not be like water.

[garyLT1]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/FF414B26-9803-4701-B921-D79AB879082D-3795-0000036F10BA60AE.jpg
My girdle and arp studs for the drag wheels fronts and backs. And I also ordered a TA PERFORMANCE stud kit I gotta make this 10 last least a year or two till I can fund my full 9" swap and the rear has 4:10 with all new bearing and fresh rebuild

[sparkles]

I hope you didn't pay much for that.

[garyLT1]

I hope you didn't pay much for that.

No all I'm in is 350 bucks on this axel just to get it to hold for just a little while

[sparkles]

What are you doing for C Clip eliminators?

[Drifte]

Have you tried turning it over with the spark plugs out?

[garyLT1]

Have you tried turning it over with the spark plugs out?

Actually I tried it again due to me just me being curious and my cranking speed increased idk why or how I just went out there one day to try messing with it and I turned the key and it cranked over like normal and fired up. Lol

[BGjohnson]

Clean your grounds, maybe add a few. Also check tightness on all positive and negative terminals.

[garyLT1]

Clean your grounds, maybe add a few. Also check tightness on all positive and negative terminals.

Ya that's what I was planning on doing anyways. now I just need to put an axel in her and hopefully, then she'll be ready to go for this weekend, but I think I've said that like at least 20 times now.

[90blkbrd]

Also make sure your battery is fully charged. (but you knew that already)

I have a buddy that fouls his plugs every spring trying to start his car with a weak battery. I don't think he will ever learn.

[garyLT1]

Thanks Ben for the great harnesses
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/110E4898-109E-4BD6-B03D-C0AE08E8FA91-6058-0000046A69AC8FA3.jpg
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And my wheels all polished up
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[BGjohnson]

I take it it's running for you?

[garyLT1]

I take it it's running for you?

Ya It running..ran pretty good I need a live tune rather then the mail order crap I have. And I've been fighting accessorys since it been put back together gone through three starters and and had to replace the alternator Ill up load a video of it running tomorrow and how it looks

[SledgeWS6]

Ya It running..ran pretty good I need a live tune rather then the mail order crap I have. And I've been fighting accessorys since it been put back together gone through three starters and and had to replace the alternator Ill up load a video of it running tomorrow and how it looks

It's tomorrow...can we have that video now Gary? :biggrin:

We need to have a get together at Sonic or something soon!

[sparkles]

How about at Twin Peaks this afternoon?

[SledgeWS6]

How about at Twin Peaks this afternoon?

What time? I can make it happen.

[sparkles]

130 today guys. I texted everyone I can think of, so if you didn't get one, we don't want you to come....

[SledgeWS6]

130 today guys. I texted everyone I can think of, so if you didn't get one, we don't want you to come....

Lord knows we don't want thread to get off topic, but I just want to say I left Twin Peaks with my dignity this time.

[sparkles]

No "sit to pee" for you!

[garyLT1]

Some photos of it outside today I'm having issues with tune and its running supper rich with is causing a backfiring, pinging issues. I don't know really what I can do besides call pcm4less and ask them
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http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/2DA0059B-A165-4F00-8FD5-E4092921A6DF-14875-00000C2D387E6EDE.jpg
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[AutoMods]

Some photos of it outside today I'm having issues with tune and its running supper rich with is causing a backfiring, pinging issues. I don't know really what I can do besides call pcm4less and ask them


looks great. mean. do you have a wideband? if so how rich are we talking?

[garyLT1]

looks great. mean. do you have a wideband? if so how rich are we talking?

No wide band and I'm talking Walbro 255 on my 36lb just dumping fuel

[sparkles]

It's called "take it to Karl's and have them tune it". To be honest, I'd take that mail tune out and put your stock one back in and start from there. Those mail order tunes aren't all that great from what I hear from others that have gone that route.

[90blkbrd]

It's called "take it to Karl's and have them tune it". To be honest, I'd take that mail tune out and put your stock one back in and start from there. Those mail order tunes aren't all that great from what I hear from others that have gone that route.

IMHO Mail order tunes are just a crutch to get a car running good enough to drive it to get it tuned OR if you have the software and hardware a base tune so you can fine tune it yourself.

[AutoMods]

dumping fuel? maybe the fuel is not getting lit up in a cylinder. if you have narrowband o2 sensors, you could monitor each bank to see if they are both cycling around stoich. If a cylinder isn't getting spark, that banks o2 will show lean.

always a good idea to verify fuel pressure. on some cars the walbro 255 will cause the fuel pressure to go up if the stock regulator can't keep up, in that case you would run richer. but the car would still run decent with just a modest increase in fuel pressure.

[garyLT1]

It's called "take it to Karl's and have them tune it". To be honest, I'd take that mail tune out and put your stock one back in and start from there. Those mail order tunes aren't all that great from what I hear from others that have gone that route.

But I don't have $500 dollars for a live tune right now that's why I'm trying to fix the one I allready paid for.



dumping fuel? maybe the fuel is not getting lit up in a cylinder. if you have narrowband o2 sensors, you could monitor each bank to see if they are both cycling around stoich. If a cylinder isn't getting spark, that banks o2 will show lean.

always a good idea to verify fuel pressure. on some cars the walbro 255 will cause the fuel pressure to go up if the stock regulator can't keep up, in that case you would run richer. but the car would still run decent with just a modest increase in fuel pressure.

And my O2 have been deleted and I guess I didn't know the about the pump being able to add pressure and I haven't checked my spark but when I blew my headgasket and pulled the heads it appeared I had good spark due to the carbon build up on the heads but idk maybe I need some lower resist wires and a better coil them the msd blaster

[90blkbrd]

(please forgive me, I don't want to read the last 15 pages of this thread)

What have you all done to the car since the mail order tune? Is it possible you added something new to the car that could have thrown the tune off?

[sparkles]

if you have narrowband o2 sensors, you could monitor each bank to see if they are both cycling around stoich. \
How would you like him to do this? I'm no expert, but putting my nose in the tailpipe isn't going to be that accurate.

But I don't have $500 dollars for a live tune right now that's why I'm trying to fix the one I allready paid for.
You get what you pay for. That's what you're finding out. With all things considered, $500 to get a car running right after all the mods and everything you've done is peanuts. The tune makes everything work together like a symphony. It's not always about making peak numbers.

(please forgive me, I don't want to read the last 15 pages of this thread)
What have you all done to the car since the mail order tune? Is it possible you added something new to the car that could have thrown the tune off?
The list is shorter if you say what hasn't been done. New motor, heads, cam, exhaust, ignition, fuel system.

[garyLT1]

(please forgive me, I don't want to read the last 15 pages of this thread)

What have you all done to the car since the mail order tune? Is it possible you added something new to the car that could have thrown the tune off?

Nope motor was installed every since then I haven't added anything just been trying to work out the bugs

[garyLT1]

You get what you pay for. That's what you're finding out. With all things considered, $500 to get a car running right after all the mods and everything you've done is peanuts. The tune makes everything work together like a symphony. It's not always about making peak numbers.

And ya sparkles your right I'm just trying not to dig in my wallet if I don't need to right away but I guess I'm gonna have to that tune a $500 isn't worth blowing the 4500-5k I have into the turd.

[sparkles]

Drop it off at Karl's. Let them have it for as long as they need. Don't bug them about it. Let them do their thing.

That thing should be a blast when it's done and running right. Just take it easy on that rear end until you figure out what you wanna do about it. It sucks that every year around this time, everyone is hurrying up trying to get their stuff done and back on the road. All winter, things get pushed back or take longer than they should, and then 90% of the work happens in March and April. Corners get cut, and before you know it, it's the middle of summer and you still don't have a running car.

[garyLT1]

Drop it off at Karl's. Let them have it for as long as they need. Don't bug them about it. Let them do their thing.

That thing should be a blast when it's done and running right. Just take it easy on that rear end until you figure out what you wanna do about it. It sucks that every year around this time, everyone is hurrying up trying to get their stuff done and back on the road. All winter, things get pushed back or take longer than they should, and then 90% of the work happens in March and April. Corners get cut, and before you know it, it's the middle of summer and you still don't have a running car.

Pretty much just nailed it on the head lol ya I guess ill have to talk to Karl's on Monday about tuning it

[90blkbrd]

So has it ever ran right on that tune?

[AutoMods]

if you have narrowband o2 sensors, you could monitor each bank to see if they are both cycling around stoich. If a cylinder isn't getting spark, that banks o2 will show lean.


How would you like him to do this? I'm no expert, but putting my nose in the tailpipe isn't going to be that accurate.

it depends on the car and I don't know lt1 specifics. but oem narrowband info feeds into the computer. you would need borrow a scanner/code reader, laptop or even smartphone apps can display that kinda data just depends on the cars support. otherwise o2 sensor gauges or hook up the multimeter to the wires. its one of those things that i probably wouldn't go out of my way and buy a gauge to see narrowband o2 info but if gary already had a way to see it easily it can be useful look at.

kinda hard to debug issues with limited data ... no wideband, fuel pressure gauge, logger etc. (waiting for someone to tell me i'm a spoiled idiot and need to learn how to read spark plugs)

just always a good idea to work through everything so your dyno guy doesn't end up working on a mechanical issue all day or a bad/wrong sensor, wiring, fuel pump, injectors, ignition issue etc

[AutoMods]

gary, your aiming for 450whp NA, so does that mean you have a huge cam ? that can make the tune a lot trickier

[garyLT1]

So has it ever ran right on that tune?

Runs great with no load on the engine

[garyLT1]

gary, your aiming for 450whp NA, so does that mean you have a huge cam ? that can make the tune a lot trickier

And ya I have a pretty big cam not crazy big but 232/236 . 550 lift

[snickerlicker]

Throw a vacuum gauge on the bitch!

[garyLT1]

Also today broke my second starter case this week idk why but ya
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[AutoMods]

wow, i'd start looking at the problem being something else other than the starter. turn the motor over by hand to see how stiff it is. make sure your not in a hydrolock situation with too much fuel or coolant in a cylinder causing the starter to fight through that. if your injectors sat around for a long time, try blowing through them with your mouth to make sure any aren't stuck open.

maybe a timing issue/misfire/backfire causing the motor to push the piston backwards during starting and jolting the starter

[garyLT1]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee155/gcar1992/13857D4E-A3C5-4495-A22E-8DB1D699A175-16395-00000D3729E81911.jpg
Pulled 1left ,3right plugs. And pulled all injectors tried to blow through them but i wasn't able to... So pulled the easiest 2 plugs and now kinda lost. I bought my injectors used they're 36lb boush when I bought them supposedly they were freshly rebuilt and had been flow matched and tested but I purchased them over a year ago. So not much I can do on returning them

The engine runs great under no load we adjusted the valves last night and that helped the engine alot which stopped alot of backfiring and pinging but I still have some under load I know I need a live tune but I want to get this stater situtuation figured out before I break Anymore starters

[90blkbrd]

Runs great with no load on the engine

For how long? Up to full operating temperature and longer?

[CROWN]

make sure the valvetrain is adjusted perfect, make sure the timing is right, maybe the starter needs shimmed? Also if not using knarled bolts like they do usually from the factory i've seen that a cause to from normal bolts loosening up. Will need to do all those checks before the dyno or we can do it but of course thats extra. Give ben more beer.

[garyLT1]

For how long? Up to full operating temperature and longer?

Well it's alittle cold blooded at first start up your have to have you foot the the gas to keep it alive which I know you shouldn't have to since its fuel injected but once it's starts to warm up it runs great.



make sure the valvetrain is adjusted perfect, make sure the timing is right, maybe the starter needs shimmed? Also if not using knarled bolts like they do usually from the factory i've seen that a cause to from normal bolts loosening up. Will need to do all those checks before the dyno or we can do it but of course thats extra. Give ben more beer.

And we adjusted my comp promags last night well a buddie helped me out but we got them adjusted pretty spot on it seems but I'm gonna shim my starter next time since. I've kinda haven't thought to do that since I never had to when it was stock. And ya bens been a lifesaver for helping me with this project along with a couple other buddies that have put in hard hours helping me get this far

[sparkles]

Yes, give me beer and kick out all your buddies. They're bad for you and will lead you down the road to bent pushrods.

[RedRocketZ28]

Yes, give me beer and kick out all your buddies. They're bad for you and will lead you down the road to bent pushrods.

Lulz. You do realize the guy that was working on Gary's car used to own a nasty LT1 car right? He tends to know what he is doing. Unless you are referring to the guy who set everything the first time.

[garyLT1]

Lulz. You do realize the guy that was working on Gary's car used to own a nasty LT1 car right? He tends to know what he is doing. Unless you are referring to the guy who set everything the first time.

I thought Dave did a awesome job and knows his shit least alot more then me. i don't know much lol. And did a awesome job on my valves it minimized my backfiring and improved my engine cranking before it was hard to crank now it's spins much easier and it rather alot better but i still having issues with it dumping fuel and I gernaded another starter I think due to improper shimming. And ya the guy that helped me before definitely went alittle to tight.

[AutoMods]

I can run a few tests on my injector flow bench if you would like to eliminate those as a potential problem.

[garyLT1]

I can run a few tests on my injector flow bench if you would like to eliminate those as a potential problem.

We're are you located Ryan? CF? I guess I could ship them too ya to check.

[AutoMods]

We're are you located Ryan? CF? I guess I could ship them too ya to check.

North liberty. yes priority usps will cost you around $5 . I can email you a prepaid shipping label. if your interested just shoot me a pm with your email address and physical address.

[sparkles]

Lulz. You do realize the guy that was working on Gary's car used to own a nasty LT1 car right? He tends to know what he is doing. Unless you are referring to the guy who set everything the first time.

I used to own several DSMs too. Doesn't make me an expert on them. At the end of the day, that LT1 is just a SBC which isn't all that hard. As far as the the first guy who set them, I have yet to hear who that was, nor do I care. What I will say is that what I saw being done is going to result in some loose rocker arms later down the road. I'm not here to measure dicks. It's not my car. That's why I left. Too many cooks spoil the soup.

[RedRocketZ28]

Well his cars seemed to run well.

http://shbox.com/1/4th_gen_tech2.html#adjust_valves

That is what he was using. If that is wrong, then the guy who complied all the information must be an idiot as well, and that certainly is not the case. Sounds like you should have asked what was going on instead of getting all bent out of shape and walking out...

[sparkles]

Lol, do you really think that was the case? I'm a fat kid. I was hungry. Had I been aware that everybody and their second cousin was coming, I wouldn't have showed up to begin with. I was supposed to check it out after he did it. Had no idea that he was calling in the calvary to do it for him.

[sparkles]

I do find it funny you posted that link. It pretty much points out what my point was. So...thanks I guess?

[garyLT1]

Lol, do you really think that was the case? I'm a fat kid. I was hungry. Had I been aware that everybody and their second cousin was coming, I wouldn't have showed up to begin with. I was supposed to check it out after he did it. Had no idea that he was calling in the calvary to do it for him.

Hey hey I tried adjusting the valves from what I was told to do and somehow I made them worse lol first they were to tight then the second time I had them way loose. This was my first time adjusting valves speacially when theses rockers are so damn touchy. I followed the whole baselobe and turn the pushrods till you can't move it (zero lash)then moving it 1/4 turn with Allen and wrench. but it still ran like shit my it was my mistake most likely. I was just looking for any advice from people with experience I could get. In the end everything seems to be better now with help and advice. It's all a learning curve that I'm still trying to learn as I go

[RedRocketZ28]

Your point was...? He was doing them wrong, or no? Sorry, it's early.

Also, why didn't you tell me you were going to eat. I'm a fat kid too and could have used some food! I was doing absolutely nothing to help Gary's situation anyway, ha.

[garyLT1]

Your point was...? He was doing them wrong, or no? Sorry, it's early.

Also, why didn't you tell me you were going to eat. I'm a fat kid too and could have used some food! I was doing absolutely nothing to help Gary's situation anyway, ha.

You guys should had said something lol I have a grill and had like 50 beer brauts in my fridge I could had cooked lol

[AutoMods]

You guys should had said something lol I have a grill and had like 50 beer brauts in my fridge I could had cooked lol

come on man, you have to keep your helpers fed. they shouldn't have to ask

[SledgeWS6]

You guys should had said something lol I have a grill and had like 50 beer brauts in my fridge I could had cooked lol

My Hangover burger was delicious. We need to get a dsm cookout going!

[sparkles]

My Hangover burger was delicious. We need to get a dsm cookout going!
Really? Gave me the squirts. Soon as it warms up, I thought about having a little get together over here by my place with anybody that wanted to come.

[90blkbrd]

Really? Gave me the squirts.

Me too!

[SledgeWS6]

Any updates, Gary?

[garyLT1]

Any updates, Gary?

A Lot but it's running lol but I'm still trying to work out issues i just changed some stuff on it I went with a 180 thermostat vs the 160 cause my engine just isn't getting hot enough which I think is part of the reason I'm running rich I just put my fourth starter yes fourth lol first one was bad, second one cracked case, and third cracked a case again. now I messed with the opti hoping that's what my issues was causing a kick back on fire up. Also changed the coolant temp sensor. I'm just trying to work out the bugs ill upload the video later. The car runs great with no load but soon as its underload it falls on its face so ya that's were I'm at.

[garyLT1]

Okay here's my cry for help car has been running since motor has been in. Here's where it all started so since I kept breaking starters and backfiring issues I pulled my opti so I could check the splines on the drive to make it correct so put the opti on after couple times trying to align it we got it on and got it to run decent again. So we finished installing all the water hoses and waterpump and lowered it back down now I can't get it to run and it has cranking issues. So me and my buddies have got to the point were I'm just lost and don't know what to do. Is there anybody intown that knows these LT1 that can come help me get this thing running right I'm willing to pay someone to help me out I'm just lost and don't know what to do anymore with it. Please

[garyLT1]

Somebody buy my engine 2500 takes the whole engine plus accessories

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/pts/4121618266.html

[LT1Dan]

Why are you getting rid of it? Going to the dark side (LS1)?

[1badheadgasket]

he needs a name change. GaryLSX ;)

[garyLT1]

Well here's my update some of you guys know my build but I figured I would update to the build is a 5.3 TH400 with a PT7275 turbo.
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[AutoMods]

can't go wrong with the ls swap.

btw, did you ever figure out what was wrong with your lt1?

[garyLT1]

can't go wrong with the ls swap.

btw, did you ever figure out what was wrong with your lt1?

Bad opti lmao!

but she ran like a bat out of hell when it was done. Just time to move up in the world

[AutoMods]

Bad opti lmao!

but she ran like a bat out of hell when it was done. Just time to move up in the world

seemed like a quick change in plans. wasn't long ago when you put the built lt1 in. are the lt1's that bad? traded a forged 5.7 lt1 with worked heads for a stockish 5.3 ls ?

[garyLT1]

seemed like a quick change in plans. wasn't long ago when you put the built lt1 in. are the lt1's that bad? traded a forged 5.7 lt1 with worked heads for a stockish 5.3 ls ?

I loved my LT that engine was awesome and I wish I could had kept it but I needed money for the build... That engine ran hard as hell and someday I'll build another one someday down the road as a stroker. But I just wanted a turbo really bad and my compression on my LT wasnt ideal for boost and LoS are just great boost engines so I decided to make a change cause I wanted bigger numbers. It's just the name of the game

[SledgeWS6]

It's just the name of the game

That and all the cool kids are doing it! It'll just a be a few years and we'll be back on the LT1 train, a different LT1, but that swap-storm is coming. Can't wait to see some more progress Gary!

[garyLT1]

Some more parts my -8 feed and -6 return AN Fitting with some new RACETRONIX 340L/HR pumps more pictures to come
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[garyLT1]

My new 8.8 ford
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griffin radiator
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TH400 Trans mount, Holley rails
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and I just installed a new B&M 29000 BTU supercooler

[Drifte]

Sweet, where'd you get the B&M tranny cooler? My trans needs all the cooling help it can get.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I have that same cooler, this winter I cut off the bungs and welded on push lok fittings...had a couple lines blow off in the past

[garyLT1]

Test fitting
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[garyLT1]

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my founders adjustable LCAs very good quality piece

[garyLT1]

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[garyLT1]

Finally done with the narrowed 8.8 thanks to josh now just gotta do the brakes and minor adjustments and call it good
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[SledgeWS6]

Sweet, where'd you get the B&M tranny cooler? My trans needs all the cooling help it can get.

Don't mean to Hi-jack the thread, but I got mine at Summit racing. It was the best price I could find.

Gary, when do you hope to have this thing tearin' up the streets?

[garyLT1]

Gary, when do you hope to have this thing tearin' up the streets?

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just picked this driveshaft it has billet th400 yoke and billet ends and it's chromoly 44" the perfect length
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