Mustang Trans

[sparkles]

Sounds like somebody got paid off to me. Their best answer "it's the driver's fault"? Gimme a break. I didn't know they were outsourcing to China. The trans in our Cruze is made in Germany. I'm not exactly thrilled with it.


http://jalopnik.com/5870025/nhtsa-grenades-mustang-transmission-investigation

[86svo9L]

Thats a load of BS. So, its ok to buy a Mustang, but not OK to use the 412hp. Its about time they get some components to handle the power otherwise the Camaro will start looking better and better to consumers.

[black88gt]

Its fixed now I don't see the issue?

No OEMs have ever denied warranty claims on performance vehicles for abuse... right

[86svo9L]

Even though it is fixed, I would still be upset considering what some of these people paid for the car. Some people have trouble shifting even under normal driving situations.

[snickerlicker]

^ The key word is fixed... Need one of these??

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/10sec5oh/Wambulance.jpg

[86svo9L]

Whats the respond time for one of those and what services do they offer?

[sparkles]

Its fixed now I don't see the issue?

No OEMs have ever denied warranty claims on performance vehicles for abuse... right

It's not like it's just one little problem. There's multiple issues from the sounds of it. And when it can't be explained, it's put off on the customer's driving habits. Not trying to make the a Ford vs Chevy argument. If I had these issues with my car and the dealer told me they aren't doing anything because it's the way I'm driving it, I'd tell them they can have the car back and I'd be buying something else. If I was Ford, I'd be bitching to Getrag. It seems that newer cars, Chevy included ( I know from personal experience.The six speed auto in our Cruze drives me nuts when I'm wanting to get somewhere in a hurry. ), are putting more emphasis on fuel economy than reliability, especially when it comes to transmissions. Smaller lighter gear assemblies, thinner cases, crazy weird TCM tunes with shift points that make no sense, etc. Problem is, they're shoving these lightweight transmissions behind bigger hp engines and expecting them to act the same. Then when they don't, their excuse is "you're driving it too spirited". I'm sorry, isn't that why I bought it over the Fiesta?

[black88gt]

I agree it is shitty but this is in no way a new thing from OEMs. This along w/ the fact that the issues have been sorted out makes it a non-issue IMO

[86svo9L]

Its winter time and we all need something to get our panties in a bunch over.

[sparkles]

I agree it is shitty but this is in no way a new thing from OEMs. This along w/ the fact that the issues have been sorted out makes it a non-issue IMO

This is where I disagree. Saying it's the driver's fault isn't "sorting it out".

[black88gt]

This is where I disagree. Saying it's the driver's fault isn't "sorting it out".

There are TSBs and they are now being fixed under warranty...

[sparkles]

How do you fix what has been diagnosed as a driving habit?

[black88gt]

How do you fix what has been diagnosed as a driving habit?

After the true issue was found the "abuse" diagnosis was rescinded and they were fixed. At least thats how the cases I've read about turned out.

[Deimos]

Our mailmans 08 ford fusion. Cam and crank shift was out of sync reflashed the pcm. It fixed the liught and the trans started shifting like poop. Sad part is can't communicate with TCM...

[LT1Dan]

This seems relevant:

http://jalopnik.com/5869650/why-do-2011-ford-mustang-driveshafts-keep-exploding

[snickerlicker]

^ As does this if we want to go down that road....:)

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/14/camaro-airbag-spontaneously-deploys-while-drifting/

[sparkles]

^That's BS too. I'd love to hear they're excuse for that.

[LT1Dan]

^ As does this if we want to go down that road....:)

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/14/camaro-airbag-spontaneously-deploys-while-drifting/

Any word on what GM did about that? I don't follow the 5th gen stuff at all. But yeah that is stupid. Although I would rather have the air bags deploy than have my DS disintegrate at 120+ MPH.

[snickerlicker]

The 2011 V6 305 HP is too much powaaaa for the driveshaft I guess...

Here's some late night google material for the GM squad, Camaro TSB trans issues... Guess Mustangs aren't the only ones with problems...


Transmission:

#PI0110A: Manual Shift Shaft Position Switch Replacement Parts, DTC P182E, P1915 - (Jun 29, 2010)

#PIP4800: Intermittent Clutch Pedal Low Or Sticks To The Floor - (Jun 1, 2010)

#PI0041B: Leak from Rear of Transmission - (May 20, 2010)

#PI0118: High Pitched Whine Noise Heard in 4th, 5th or 6th Gear at 97-129 km/h (60-80 mph) - (May 5, 2010)

#PIP4317C: Transmission Fluid Leak From Manual Shaft Bore Plug - keywords seal - (Apr 29, 2010)

#PIP4774A: Soft Or Low Clutch Pedal Hard To Shift Transmission Grind When Shifting Or Unable To Shift - (Apr 19, 2010)

#PIP4678B: Water In Transmission No Forward Gears TCC Shudder Harsh Shift DTC U0073 U0100 U0101 P182E P2544 - (Mar 19, 2010)

#PIP4650A: Rattle Noise From The Manual Transmission - (Dec 2, 2009)

#PIP4666D: Vehicle Will Not Move In Any Gear - (Sep 21, 2009)

[Deimos]

you ought to see some from chrysler and newer fords... TSB's are funny if you look at the cures for the symptoms.

[black88gt]

Not sure what the v6 guy thought would happen. There's a limiter at 117 for a reason.

Not surprised at all. It failed while operating outside the parameters it was designed for. Anymore cars are engineered to meet a set of parameters at the lowest cost. Its business.

[Domestic Disturbance]

say something bad about a mustang... camaro vs mustang pissing match... intelligent conversation not possible.

[snickerlicker]

Yeah next thing you know the 4th Gen Camaro guys are debating with the 5th Gen guys about who has the better mullet...Shit gets rediculous.

[sparkles]

That's not even a debate. Us third gen guys got that "locked" down. Duh.

[snickerlicker]

That's not even a debate. Us third gen guys got that "locked" down. Duh.

Forgot about you third gen guys.. Damn, my bad!

[slow ride]

No shortage of Oakleys and Guess jeans either. Now where did i put my viagra.

[BGjohnson]

Not surprising a Ford product, designed by Germans and produced and assembled by China didn't work out perfect. ;)

[LT1Dan]

Not sure what the v6 guy thought would happen. There's a limiter at 117 for a reason.

Not surprised at all. It failed while operating outside the parameters it was designed for. Anymore cars are engineered to meet a set of parameters at the lowest cost. Its business.

You're either trolling or a fanboi.

[85XR7Project]

Not surprising a Ford product, designed by Germans and produced and assembled by China didn't work out perfect

Attempting to stir the pot?

The Camaro is based off of the Australian designed Zeta platform and built in Canada does that mean something?

The Charger/Magnum/300C is based off of an old Mercedes platform and is built in Canada does that mean something?

The Mustang is based off of an American designed and American made platform does any of this shit mean anything? No, fact is they went with the cheapest option and got fucked. It happens in the auto industry, people could just switch to the TR6060 and just be done with it, yes that will destroy your warranty but it wont be shitting out transmissions anymore. Any way you look at it each pony car has its plus and minus, who really gives a shit which one is better than the other? They are all pretty neat cars in their own way. LSx vs Coyote vs Hemi they all have impressive engines, I guess Ford just cheaped out on the tranny.

/rant

[Domestic Disturbance]

Yeah next thing you know the 4th Gen Camaro guys are debating with the 5th Gen guys about who has the better mullet...Shit gets rediculous.

Got a haircut and a 1st gen. Big pimpin


You're either trolling or a fanboi.


whatever it is its ridiculous

[BGjohnson]

check out my sig ;)

Canada is different than the shit the chinese have been producing. Mustangs back in the day were half made in mexico and the blocks are the most sought after factory 302/351. That's why the camaro first had out put shafts snapping like twigs, junk chinese metal. Unfortunately, to make a 35k 412hp mustang, corners needed to be cut, that shows up. Luckily though, Ford listens to there customers and corrects for the next year.

I was just making an observation that was funny to me. :)

[sparkles]

Attempting to stir the pot?

The Camaro is based off of the Australian designed Zeta platform and built in Canada does that mean something?

The Charger/Magnum/300C is based off of an old Mercedes platform and is built in Canada does that mean something?

The Mustang is based off of an American designed and American made platform does any of this shit mean anything? No, fact is they went with the cheapest option and got fucked. It happens in the auto industry, people could just switch to the TR6060 and just be done with it, yes that will destroy your warranty but it wont be shitting out transmissions anymore. Any way you look at it each pony car has its plus and minus, who really gives a shit which one is better than the other? They are all pretty neat cars in their own way. LSx vs Coyote vs Hemi they all have impressive engines, I guess Ford just cheaped out on the tranny.

/rant

Damn, what crawled up your bum and made a nest?

[85XR7Project]

I just think these chevy vs ford pissing matches at gay, I'm a ford guy but I can appreciate just about everything.

[sparkles]

It wasn't a Ford vs Chevy thing....

You know you just busted the balls of a "Ford Guy" right?

[85XR7Project]

now that he shows his sig yes. Either way the message is still applicable.

[sparkles]

Why don't you just shut your Ford loving mouth, K?

















JK :)

[85XR7Project]

Lol whatever you say mullet master. Get a build thread on that car of yours so we can see what a 3rd gen can look like when its made to handle curvies.

[snickerlicker]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/10sec5oh/wmcamaro5db.jpg

[sparkles]

Lol whatever you say mullet master. Get a build thread on that car of yours so we can see what a 3rd gen can look like when its made to handle curvies.

What do you have again? Oh, yeah. Sorry bout that.

In the words of a wise man "Get a lane or shut the fuck up"

[85XR7Project]

Lmao, yeah you got me.

[sparkles]

:) Don't worry. One of these days I'll make a thread for all the crybabies wanting to see what the specs are on my junk. Probably right after George and Ed's thread divulging their "secrets".

[FiFdYnUtZ]

What do you have again? Oh, yeah. Sorry bout that.

In the words of a wise man "Get a lane or shut the fuck up"

did you just call me wise?

[sparkles]

^werd

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Haha well played