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boostedsohc
12-13-2011, 09:31 PM
figured it was a good night to show everyone what ive started doing to the car for next year.
1995 civic coupe. previous setup made 475whp 325trq
ran a best time of 11.01@129mph
that motor consisted of stock sleeve d16 SOHC motor.
vitara pistons eagle rods
P&P head with springs and retainers. comp 59500 cam
golden eagle intake manifold
PTE 6262 turbo
you get the gist.
couple pics of the car from last year.
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild157.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild159.jpg

475whp dyno pull
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/th_rebuild149.jpg (http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/?action=view&current=rebuild149.mp4)
graph
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/johndynothatworks.jpg

86svo9L
12-13-2011, 09:33 PM
How do you like the 6262? Ive been tossing up between the SC6162 or the SC6262...

boostedsohc
12-13-2011, 09:35 PM
wheels i picked up from jacob a while back
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild180.jpg

pics of the cage
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild186.jpg

my buddies 70 yr old dad doing some welding
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild184.jpg

as i started pulling the car apart for the winter
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild201.jpg

GSR tranny for the D2B swap i am doing this year.
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild192.jpg

boostedsohc
12-13-2011, 09:37 PM
How do you like the 6262? Ive been tossing up between the SC6162 or the SC6262...

i love it. makes great power and doesnt fall off. a little slow on the spool but doesnt lag at the track

AutoMods
12-13-2011, 09:37 PM
what kind of thermostat do you run?

boostedsohc
12-13-2011, 09:40 PM
my prized possesion for the new build.
Darton sleeved block. found it on ebay for dirt ass cheap. came with eagle rods and weisco pistons which i wont be using. going much higher compression
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild191.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild197.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild194.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild196.jpg

boostedsohc
12-13-2011, 09:41 PM
what kind of thermostat do you run?

shiiiiit son i took that shit out!

boostedsohc
12-13-2011, 09:47 PM
still got a lot to get before its done. and lots of money left to spend.
i plan on going to some events this next season with the car so it will be able to pass tech at every track and be legal to run 150+mph. so yes it will have a chute.
i plan on having it running high 140's and low 150's if all goes right. a big IF

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/12ee51bc.jpg

also got a drag wing coming will be this exact wing
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/6ad0e89a.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/4421c4a4.jpg

im sure most people will hate the wing but i love it and it serves a purpose. more stability at high speeds!

and the plates of course!
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/lolcya.jpg

boostedsohc
12-13-2011, 09:54 PM
differences in this years setup will be different but better cam.
sleeved and fully forged bottom end with CP pistons most likely. 10:1 compression
the vitara bottom end was around 7.5:1 and cast pistons
b series transmission on the d series block. with 5th gear cuff and spool.
running same turbo setup with just more boost!
and then i have my long list of shit sitting here next to my computer which is A LOT of money worth of shit.

next thing on the list is suspension. since im still on stock struts with 195k and egay coil overs

Batwood
12-13-2011, 10:16 PM
So you have a Honda, and a parachute, and a wing... but I bet nobody is going to make fun of you.
Take notes kids.

Badass car for sure. I think I saw you at CFR once or twice...

boostedsohc
12-13-2011, 10:22 PM
So you have a Honda, and a parachute, and a wing... but I bet nobody is going to make fun of you.
Take notes kids.

Badass car for sure. I think I saw you at CFR once or twice...

its a honda! someones going to make fun. but being a honda owner i exspect it.
ive been to CFR 2 times only once with the car. its been a couple years tho. running high 12's on radials with the 300whp setup.

boostedsohc
12-13-2011, 11:00 PM
couple more pics
both fast and slow car. ive only owned black 2 dr cars.
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/dddpic.jpg

picture of the car on a dyno at a local car show. made the most power at the show. 435whp on 26psi only let the guy take it to 7600rpm's
and it makes 475 on 28psi at 8400 rpm's
nice new wheels on it too in this pic
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/dynopic.jpg

harodavid
12-14-2011, 01:13 AM
shoulda put that much boost to a geo metro, prob. make more horse power!!;)

Domestic Disturbance
12-14-2011, 02:21 AM
Still gonna be rowing gears and running at least tens? I like the thought of that. Keep some of these gay v8 guys on their toes. How much boost you expecting to run? And whats a d2b swap. D to B series tranny?

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 06:52 AM
Still gonna be rowing gears and running at least tens? I like the thought of that. Keep some of these gay v8 guys on their toes. How much boost you expecting to run? And whats a d2b swap. D to B series tranny?

boost numbers will probably be around 35 ish. but it might be less. might be more.
d2b is putting a b series trans on a d series block. b series trans is a hell of a lot stronger. but they do not match up and have different splines on the shaft. theres a company that has figured out how to make it work and makes a mount kit that allows to use the b series trans. but you have to get a custom clutch disk.
basicaly if i were to stick with a d series tranny id be shredding gears since they are not meant to hold near the power the car will be making. and i cant get a "good" set of gears like i can for the b series trans. less limitations basically

kinda works like how some guys put a for 9in rear end in there trans am. a lot stronger.

JacobS
12-14-2011, 07:36 AM
would you get some slicks mounted on those already! i wish i didnt sell them now that i have another honda haha looking good man, keep up the good work!

PS: YOURE WING IS GAY!!!

CiviC_boY
12-14-2011, 08:00 AM
Just wondering in person how loud is that exhaust out the hood? I thought abt puttin mine out the bumper but ill drive it often on the streets

sparkles
12-14-2011, 10:12 AM
Very impressive, that's for sure. Who's going to tune it now that Wrenches is no more? Brian is still tuning using other people's dynos.

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 11:27 AM
Just wondering in person how loud is that exhaust out the hood? I thought abt puttin mine out the bumper but ill drive it often on the streets

its loud dont get me wrong but just driving around its no louder then a ls1 trans am with full exhaust without cats.
once i was being mamamia's car and i couldnt even hear my car at a stop light.
but in boost its a whole different story. sounds like a jet when it starts spooling the turbo

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 11:29 AM
Very impressive, that's for sure. Who's going to tune it now that Wrenches is no more? Brian is still tuning using other people's dynos.

brian will be the person who tunes it for sure. there is a dyno 10 min from me at a deisel truck shop.
or id be more then happy to tow it to des moines again to whereever he can tune it. hes the only one i trust to tune it so im sticking with him since he did a great job the last time

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 11:32 AM
would you get some slicks mounted on those already! i wish i didnt sell them now that i have another honda haha looking good man, keep up the good work!

PS: YOURE WING IS GAY!!!

haha i know ive slacked on getting slicks for those wheels. i just have 2 sets of slicks on other sets of wheels so i havent worried to much. but il have a new set for them for this next season.

PS: MY WING IS AWESOME

Drifte
12-14-2011, 11:43 AM
Just saw this thread, cool car.

AutoMods
12-14-2011, 12:56 PM
still got a lot to get before its done. and lots of money left to spend.
i plan on going to some events this next season with the car so it will be able to pass tech at every track and be legal to run 150+mph. so yes it will have a chute.
i plan on having it running high 140's and low 150's if all goes right. a big IF

friendly wager, I bet you $100 your car will not trap high 140's next year at the shootout. High would be 147.5 or higher. Lets lock it in for $50. :drive:

sparkles
12-14-2011, 01:00 PM
brian will be the person who tunes it for sure. there is a dyno 10 min from me at a deisel truck shop.
or id be more then happy to tow it to des moines again to whereever he can tune it. hes the only one i trust to tune it so im sticking with him since he did a great job the last time

I know for a little while he was traveling to RevHard for a bit. Might look into that.

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 05:15 PM
I know for a little while he was traveling to RevHard for a bit. Might look into that.

ehh i wont be going to revhard. brian said he drove there for a while but wasnt making enough to make the drive worth it every day.
id rather not use rev hards dyno tho. me and trent dont really like each other. although we have settled our differences il still be using a different dyno most likely. but you never know i guess

sparkles
12-14-2011, 05:16 PM
I told him he'd get tired of the drive quick. DM to Davenport twice a week for a year and a half makes me never want to travel East again.

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 05:19 PM
friendly wager, I bet you $100 your car will not trap high 140's next year at the shootout. High would be 147.5 or higher. Lets lock it in for $50. :drive:

im not making any wagers as the car is in peices right now. thats what i plan on it running but what it actually runs remains to be seen. fastest mph last year was 133mph. so with 100-175whp more we will see what it gets. also with suspension changes and working on making the car more aero with a new front end with no extra holes in the bumper and cutting a little weight.
theres just to many variables to be able to make a wager ryan haha.
how about a e-handshake for $1 haha

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 05:20 PM
I told him he'd get tired of the drive quick. DM to Davenport twice a week for a year and a half makes me never want to travel East again.

yeah i couldnt do it. unless i was make an insane amount of money.

FiFdYnUtZ
12-14-2011, 05:23 PM
lol please dont become the next scotty T parachute boy!

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 05:32 PM
lol please dont become the next scotty T parachute boy!

luckily i dont know who scotty t is so im not offended

FiFdYnUtZ
12-14-2011, 05:33 PM
lets just say rich christansen himself even thought he was a tard...

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 05:35 PM
lets just say rich christansen himself even thought he was a tard...

hahah i tried thinking of something funnier to add onto that but def cant top that.

FiFdYnUtZ
12-14-2011, 05:55 PM
hand to god, its true too...we all seent it

CiviC_boY
12-14-2011, 06:03 PM
lets just say rich christansen himself even thought he was a tard...

Hahahaha i remember that day lol... But do you regret doing your exhaust like that?

FiFdYnUtZ
12-14-2011, 06:04 PM
exhaust? what?

LT1Dan
12-14-2011, 06:21 PM
hand to god, its true too...we all seent it

Remember how he had Rich sign the hood he blew off with the nitrous backfire??? hahaha

CiviC_boY
12-14-2011, 06:23 PM
Sorry Fiddy that exhaust part wasn't directed to you lol

FiFdYnUtZ
12-14-2011, 06:45 PM
he was awfully proud of that hood, the whole family got a pic with rich and the hood HA!

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 07:43 PM
hand to god, its true too...we all seent it

wait wait wait...
so your telling me king fag rich C actually met him and thought he was a idiot?
god i would just wanna shoot myself if that were me.

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 07:45 PM
Hahahaha i remember that day lol... But do you regret doing your exhaust like that?

not at all. its not my daily driver. like the look and the lack of exhaust bends helps spool on the turbo

FiFdYnUtZ
12-14-2011, 09:04 PM
rich called him "parachute boy" over the intercom because he had a chute on the car and was only trapping in the 120's (if that)

sparkles
12-14-2011, 09:08 PM
yeah i couldnt do it. unless i was make an insane amount of money.

That was the only reason. That and it let me get away from the wife.

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 09:11 PM
rich called him "parachute boy" over the intercom because he had a chute on the car and was only trapping in the 120's (if that)

hahahahah oh fuck!
can a mod put parachute boy above my avatar? haha that would just make my god damn day!

AutoMods
12-14-2011, 09:16 PM
hahahahah oh fuck!
can a mod put parachute boy above my avatar? haha that would just make my god damn day!

done

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 09:27 PM
done

haha thanks ryan! your the man!

AutoMods
12-14-2011, 09:33 PM
you welcome parachute boy

Xboosted23X
12-14-2011, 10:27 PM
Your setup looks pretty good and you have it sorted out. What kind of 60' are you running? I hope you get your 140s that is moving for sure.

boostedsohc
12-14-2011, 10:33 PM
Your setup looks pretty good and you have it sorted out. What kind of 60' are you running? I hope you get your 140s that is moving for sure.

last year ran consistant 1.8 and 1.9's
not that good IMO. i was having problems with rolling out when launching. been studying some videos of the out law guys on in car cams and pretty sure i figured out the problem. def riding the clutch to much. but i was also on stock axles to i was trying to take it easy on them.

JacobS
12-14-2011, 11:07 PM
Fuck the axles. Get some lifetime warranty ones from oreillys and take a spare set to the track with you and let er rip!

boostedsohc
12-15-2011, 07:32 AM
this year im not fucking with stock axles is i dont have to.
getting some DSS ones if i can so i dont have to worry.

AutoMods
12-15-2011, 08:56 AM
this year im not fucking with stock axles is i dont have to.
getting some DSS ones if i can so i dont have to worry.

does dss actually have thicker axles or just same axle made with better metal?

SLVR7
12-15-2011, 10:44 AM
Better material, dss axles are almost indestructible.

boostedsohc
12-15-2011, 11:03 AM
Dss 3.9's supposed to hold 600whp. Take the same hubs and 5.9's take a bigger hub cause the spindles are bigger and those are supposed hold over 1000whp.
But they aren't cheap

AutoMods
12-15-2011, 12:50 PM
Better material, dss axles are almost indestructible.

just curious, i've been shopping for some axles for my ford 8.8 rear swap. there is plenty of forged 28 spline stock diameter axles out there from moser, strange, superior, etc. But even forged they have their limits still. fortunately you can step up to larger diameter axles 31 or 33 spline, 35 spline easily by just changing out the rear diff or spool to fit the axles.

http://image.carcraft.com/f/9288966+w750+st0/116_0705_11_z+ford_8.8_rear_end+spline_comparison. jpg

wasn't sure if its possible for fwd trannys can be changed to hold bigger shafts going into the tranny

boostedsohc
12-15-2011, 04:36 PM
niehter the 3.9 or 5.9 change the spline in the tranny. there is a lever higher that requires a different diff/spool but thats WAY to much money. i wanna say 2500 or something.
the 3.9 is a stock replacement tho but obv way stronger. il probably end up getting the 3.9's since there a bit cheaper and and hold 600. unless i find a good deal on some 5.9's with hubs

AutoMods
12-15-2011, 08:47 PM
these fox ford mustang guys got it made with driveline parts. they can take used ford explorer 31 spline axles for like $60 and an explorer 31 spline rear diff for about $70 and run 8's on them. and if used isn't your cup of tea, brand new forged axles for $225

boostedsohc
12-15-2011, 08:53 PM
these fox ford mustang guys got it made with driveline parts. they can take used ford explorer 31 spline axles for like $60 and an explorer 31 spline rear diff for about $70 and run 8's on them. and if used isn't your cup of tea, brand new forged axles for $225

and people say honda parts are cheap! geez

i just read my post above yours and god damn i cant spell half the time.

boostedsohc
12-15-2011, 10:14 PM
wing came in the mail today.
its BIG but awesome.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/johnx52601/rebuild235.jpg

snickerlicker
12-15-2011, 10:41 PM
Better material, dss axles are almost indestructible.

I think the IRS equipped Cobra guys would disagree with that statement...

SLVR7
12-15-2011, 11:11 PM
I said almost, but that is the first platform I have heard of that the dss axles don't hold up well to. Did the cobra guys find a better option? When the rx-7 guys swap in the cobra diff most guys use stock rx-7 axles, but we'll never make the torque you guys can.

86svo9L
12-16-2011, 06:31 AM
Did the cobra guys find a better option?
A lot of them end up going with a solid rear if they drag race often.

AutoMods
12-16-2011, 09:01 AM
I said almost, but that is the first platform I have heard of that the dss axles don't hold up well to. Did the cobra guys find a better option? When the rx-7 guys swap in the cobra diff most guys use stock rx-7 axles, but we'll never make the torque you guys can.

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5084.0;attach=1079 9;image

Here is a couple quotes for the Ronin/frijolee kit which is made for putting IRS cobra diff's in the fc rx7


The weak links in the base Ronin kit are the stock mazda outer CVs. If wheel hop is not kept under control the outer CVs will get destroyed.

It is only natural that as the driveline components are upgraded, the weak links become more salient. It is good to see that the outer CVs are readily available new. They are reasonably priced and relatively easy to replace.

Ronin should get with the DSS and have them make a Level 2 axle package that would include the bar, outer CV and hub.

Andrew


Yes, we remove the first three links in the chain, generally as you go up in HP with the stock rear end failures tend to go 1) stub axles (as demonstrated above) 2) axle bars 3) ring and pinion, 4) outer cvs.

We'll likely get to a level 2 kit eventually but we want to make sure this is well sorted first.

Clinical
01-22-2012, 11:43 AM
Just posting to say this car is gay as shit

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/401475_2904292000124_1045228797_33049581_143514562 4_n.jpg

boostedsohc
01-22-2012, 07:19 PM
Glad I abandoned this build

86svo9L
01-22-2012, 07:22 PM
Did you decide on a different combo or something else?

boostedsohc
01-22-2012, 09:12 PM
Did you decide on a different combo or something else?

yeah building a different setup.
once its closer to being done il post some info and pics.
first mod will be a aftermarket thermostat.

Clinical
01-25-2012, 10:22 PM
go parachute boy go
http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/424707_2929552551622_1045228797_33057845_11550055_ n.jpg
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/422326_2929553431644_1045228797_33057846_505512520 _n.jpg

Drifte
01-25-2012, 10:32 PM
cool looks like you widened it up for the slicks. Should be fun to watch.

Domestic Disturbance
01-26-2012, 01:01 AM
cool looks like you widened it up for the slicks. Should be fun to watch.

Agree'd, looks way cooler than slicks sticking out.

JacobS
01-26-2012, 08:15 AM
looks like everything is fitting well. i know eric had to make some minor adjustments to the front end on his car. looking good!

boostedsohc
01-26-2012, 09:06 PM
cool looks like you widened it up for the slicks. Should be fun to watch.
hoping so man. should be fun to drive


Agree'd, looks way cooler than slicks sticking out.
i love the front end look but i also like the slicks sticking out look too. but wider front end looks way sweeter. just not as sweet with street tires haha


looks like everything is fitting well. i know eric had to make some minor adjustments to the front end on his car. looking good!

it fits ok right now. def will need some adjustments when its ready for a real mockup.



going to make a new thread here shortly. with a few more pics

AutoMods
01-26-2012, 09:41 PM
"lol cya" ..............rofl

boostedsohc
01-26-2012, 09:47 PM
"lol cya" ..............rofl

haha best part about it is i never got to see the road with those.
went to the track and broke. :(

new thread!!!!!!!
http://iowaautoforums.com/showthread.php?14205-Parachute-Boy-s-SFWD-build