New 5.0 Coyote Build!

[BUCKETT]

Well all the parts are sold and only a few things left. The new 5.0 low comp forged coyote is on its way! New Team Z K member is going in! Will keep you all posted with pics!

[86svo9L]

Looking forward to this! You running a manual rack?

[BUCKETT]

Yes. and manual brakes.

[allgo]

cant wait to see it...

[85XR7Project]

Niiiiice that should be sweet. Planning forced induction I assume?

[AutoMods]

what kind of horsepower you going aiming for?

[K-ville]

hes going to run a twin screw i think. and i think hes lookin for 700ish

[BUCKETT]

700 range at the wheels. I just want to drive the car! 600 to 700 at the wheels will be just fine. I dont want to get out of hand. Plus I want to keep my license!

[snickerlicker]

Pics asap!!

[BUCKETT]

K member will go in this week. Just a Team Z K member looks like stock one. I will toss up a pic of th eengine when it shows.

[Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport]

this will be a cool build cant wait for updates!

[stangvortech]

sick!!

[AutoMods]

swap one of these in http://www.chevyperformancex454r.com/

[BUCKETT]

No cross breeding. I work for a chevy dealer here in Des Moines and could get a good deal on one. But I dont think the LSX block is all that! There are LS2 with sleeve kits in them that will handle way more power!

[AutoMods]

from what i've read truck irons lq motors are a good upgrade from the ls1, ls2, ls3 because they all flex. and the lsx is a lot stronger then the truck iron blocks. would make sense since the truck iron's are 80lb's heavier then the aluminum blocks and the lsx is 80lbs heavier the the truck iron blocks. I'm sure they wouldn't add the weight for no good reason.

[slow ride]

Problem is people bore the lsx too much for big boost sometimes. Keep it under 400ci and the stroke down to 4" or less and everything will be better off.

Ryan, you know better than to bring cross breeding up:) Sounds like a sweet setup though. No more 10.5 I take it?

[K-ville]

How do you firgure this? Doesnt make any sense at all to me..


Problem is people bore the lsx too much for big boost sometimes. Keep it under 400ci and the stroke down to 4" or less and everything will be better off.

Ryan, you know better than to bring cross breeding up:) Sounds like a sweet setup though. No more 10.5 I take it?

[snickerlicker]

No cross breeding. I work for a chevy dealer here in Des Moines and could get a good deal on one. But I dont think the LSX block is all that! There are LS2 with sleeve kits in them that will handle way more power!

Smart man!!!

[slow ride]

-Small bores seal easier due to less area with the same amount of head bolts
-bore integrity is improved with extra material
-long strokes move the pin closer to the ring pack reducing space and limiting how far down the top ring can be
-long stroke pulls the piston out further at BDC

There has been some instances of large bore lsx cracking In large bore boosted apps as a result of core shift in manufacturing. I should have said 427 or less as it's still pretty thick and safe (4.125 X 4"), but I'd sonic check it. The long sleeve of custom ls block is better for long strokes (erl, etc) but the piston still gets thin. GM should have made the lsx sleeve a little longer (it's longer than stock, but not much). lsx is ~ the same deck height as a normal ls block unless you get the tall deck which isn't what a gmpp 454 is. Most big lsx shops would not want to run a 454 lsx under big boost.

Anyway, is the car going not going to run the 10.5 stuff anymore I take it? Sounds like a cool build.



How do you firgure this? Doesnt make any sense at all to me..

[OldSkoolRCR]

from what i've read truck irons lq motors are a good upgrade from the ls1, ls2, ls3 because they all flex

I hear theres a nasti LQ4 Iron LS motor being built in CR for 2012.

[OldSkoolRCR]

No cross breeding. I work for a chevy dealer here in Des Moines and could get a good deal on one. But I dont think the LSX block is all that! There are LS2 with sleeve kits in them that will handle way more power!

Buckett whats the cost of that 454 LS motor, do you have any idea?

[K-ville]

Oh you are talking for durability! Gotcha now i thoght you were saying big inch long rod motors dont work haha my bad




-Small bores seal easier due to less area with the same amount of head bolts
-bore integrity is improved with extra material
-long strokes move the pin closer to the ring pack reducing space and limiting how far down the top ring can be
-long stroke pulls the piston out further at BDC

There has been some instances of large bore lsx cracking In large bore boosted apps as a result of core shift in manufacturing. I should have said 427 or less as it's still pretty thick and safe (4.125 X 4"), but I'd sonic check it. The long sleeve of custom ls block is better for long strokes (erl, etc) but the piston still gets thin. GM should have made the lsx sleeve a little longer (it's longer than stock, but not much). lsx is ~ the same deck height as a normal ls block. Most big lsx shops would not want to run a 454 lsx under big boost.

Anyway, is the car going not going to run the 10.5 stuff anymore I take it? Sounds like a cool build.

[BUCKETT]

I hear the same thing on the LSX block, 410 is it. The link is enough said! http://www.erlperformance.com/home-domestic. Now these are the LS2 blocks I was talking about. I have a guy at work buying one of these over an LSX?

Now is the car to run 10.5. It may but nothing like it was befor. I am almost + I spent $10,000 last year and it went all away trying to hang with the other car in the class. It was one run to put it were it is now. Now I am going to sound like a broken record. It was Box Stock! Stock S.victor, Stock AFR 225 I could go all nite. It's over.

I just dont want to spend the cash. It would of needed $12,000 more just to run 5.30's. Oh I also took my street car and turned it into a race car. I drove it 12 times this year. I will drive it 12 time in one month next year!

I will be there as I was 2 years ago. I will be the guy you talk to to get something done or Fixed. Not running it just helping out.

[BUCKETT]

Buckett whats the cost of that 454 LS motor, do you have any idea?

I will find out!

[BUCKETT]

The best way to put it is my Pussy Hurts!

[slow ride]

Driving cars if fun. I wouldn't make excuses just do what make you happy dude.

ERL, Virgina speed and RED do a lot of custom sleeving. ERL superdeck 1 is a very popular standard deck height block (they can make it 6 bolt also). Superdeck 2 is tall deck, but it's a pain to fit in things and needs adapters, etc. The aftermarket blocks always seem to need lots of little things done to get them up and running. These sleeved stock blocks are the way to go IMHO for power in the 1200-2000hp range. Some guys like the RHS block, but it is like $4500 or so :(

I was looking for a cracked sleeve ls2 for a cheap core to send erl in the past, but never found much. They do a cheaper dry sleeve block for the lower power/NA type guys that lets you build big 454+ NA stuff standard deck height.

[BUCKETT]

I just had just replaced a LS2 and was going to buy the core. I swaped out the 243 heads with a set of cracked 5.3 from a 2000. The heads alone brought $350.00

[AutoMods]

I hear theres a nasti LQ4 Iron LS motor being built in CR for 2012.

well if your talking about me. slow ride is going to help me forge an lq4 most likely, but nothing fancy just forged rods and pistons, some arp hardware. street friendly mild cam like the one i have now Thunder Racing 224/224 0.563/0.563 114+4 or maybe go a bit bigger. no budget for any head work, just letting the turbo make the power. budget build but should be very strong to take any boost I'd throw at it. hoping to set the boost to around 700whp shortly after break in and we'll see from there.

Dumping $1500 into a built ford solid rear end swap and the maybe $2k at the forged motor, two big time consuming and money consuming projects to start off 2012 . my clutch, injectors and turbo are decent but might need upgrading, .... hmmm forgot I don't have an intercooler yet, this shit doesn't end!! got to make good progress during the winter so its ready in the spring.

[slow ride]

I think he means the black car.

[AutoMods]

I think he means the black car.

yea that would make sense. did blacky's ls2 break ?

[OldSkoolRCR]

Blackys LS2 is cracked, but the car is also for sale on Racing Junk as a roller, hopefully will sell here soon got a very interested buyer... so NOT Blacky!

[BUCKETT]

It is here!

[86svo9L]

Very nice!

[snickerlicker]

Looking good. Time for some Coyote domination!!

[BUCKETT]

So Fucking Awesome!

[Domestic Disturbance]

whats the plan for your combo on this? n20, trans, etc?

[BUCKETT]

I am putting a Magnum 6 peed in it with a spec 3 or +3 clutch. It being the 9.5 motor the plan is to put a whipple style charger on it. Want a 2.9 whipple kit. The draw back is they are $8000.00!!1

[allgo]

Put a Vortech on it..

[sparkles]

I hope the engine bay with that big guy in there looks as nice as your old setup. That car gave me wood.

[AutoMods]

wow those whipple's cost a lot

[BUCKETT]

Headers are here and also the 3 inch X-pipe. Went cheep and bought the Chrome. I have not had good luck with any coated header and the kooks were over priced! Was hopping the flywheel would work but it looks like it wont. I just can not get any info on people using it. So off it came and a 8 bolt ford racing Aluminum one will go on. Going with a Spec stage 3 +. The Tremec Magnum and Quick time bell is on the way. Close ratio one. Plan on getting it in sometime in Dec. One thing that will be somewhat of a wait is the gas pedal! The fucking thing is huge!! Stang net Is making a bracket for them and will be ready at the first of the year!

[black88gt]

Headers are here and also the 3 inch X-pipe. Went cheep and bought the Chrome. I have not had good luck with any coated header and the kooks were over priced! Was hopping the flywheel would work but it looks like it wont. I just can not get any info on people using it. So off it came and a 8 bolt ford racing Aluminum one will go on. Going with a Spec stage 3 +. The Tremec Magnum and Quick time bell is on the way. Close ratio one. Plan on getting it in sometime in Dec. One thing that will be somewhat of a wait is the gas pedal! The fucking thing is huge!! Stang net Is making a bracket for them and will be ready at the first of the year!

IIRC the flywheel should work.

The issue people have been having is power steering but Ford sells a swap setup for them I believe. Other issue has been speedo, dono if you're going to w/ electronic trans or not.

[Ninesecsnake]

I cant wait to see this thing run, but if you are going to make any power I would stay away from any aluminum flywheel, they all come apart.

[BUCKETT]

Plan on having it in friday nite!

[sparkles]

I wish I worked as fast as you do. Hell, I make my own hours and don't seem to ever get anything done.

[bizzle]

is this going in the capri?

[K-ville]

yes its for the capri

[BUCKETT]

Well it is in! Looks like it will see a vortech unless I find a hood to cut up and let it hange out of. I will have to do a 1/2 to 3/4 inch K member spacer to get the engine cover to fit!

[stangvortech]

Look at at the novi's also. I would have to have the boss intake on my list unless you want it to clear.

[snickerlicker]

Well it is in! Looks like it will see a vortech unless I find a hood to cut up and let it hange out of. I will have to do a 1/2 to 3/4 inch K member spacer to get the engine cover to fit!

Smart man! Vortech is the way to go. A Novi would be ok too(Paxton is owned by Vortech). Looking good.

[allgo]

If you do go vortech call kurgan and name drop me and you will get a better deal.. he can beat anyones prices most of the time..

[K-ville]

ysi 5.0 cant go wrong!

[rb69]

looks good John!!!

[bizzle]

... awesome

[FiFdYnUtZ]

How will that stock shortblock fare with a ysi?

[allgo]

I think he would put a S trim on it..

[BUCKETT]

I want the T-trim Tunner kit.

Here is a procharger on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7GkT8QExc

[BUCKETT]

I just want 650 to 750 wheel power.

[sparkles]

Cue retarded junkcharger comments.

[allgo]

that car weighs 700 to 800 pounds more then yours to... junkcharger..lol...t-trim would be nastier

[Unstang]

That's going to be badass, for sure.

[BGjohnson]

Cool, I was waiting for somebody to do this!

[BUCKETT]

I think there is someting showing up in the mail in a few days! It pushes air! My be surprised who makes it but it is made in the same place the other is made and is somewhat bigger?

[snickerlicker]

Paxton Novi??

[BUCKETT]

yes sir! 2200

[snickerlicker]

Nice! They will make well over 800whp. Car will be a beast!

[BUCKETT]

Foe sure! I bought it from Justin At JPC. He matched what I get with a Racer discount with summit and shipped it for the same also. It is there Tunner kit. Going to have Justin try to tune it over the web to start. Putting a 75 to 80 lb injector in it. will try 92 to start and may dip into some e85. For now I am looking for around 600 on the 92 and will try one of his tunes with 100 unleaded.

Just dont want to get way out of hand! Been there done that shit. Racing is fun if you have some cash sitting around, Alot Of Cash! Street car!!!

[snickerlicker]

JPC is a good place to go. I see their 2011 5.0 makes 802whp stock engine on the 110 tune. How much longer until yours is up and running??

[stangvortech]

the novi 2200 is a great blower and a great price. make sure to get a big bov that blower will move some air! get some 80's from ryan on here he has a unbeatable price!

[Blkdeath]

Should be a neat set-up once done. How close is it to blowing flames?

[BUCKETT]

Will post some pics tonite. Still alittle ways off. 5 to 6 weeks and it will be running and close to done. Need some more cash!!!

[BUCKETT]

Pics here!

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7800023#post7800023

[AutoMods]

intercooler looks to be a healthy size and mounted in there well

[allgo]

Buckett looks sweet..you going to come to the manual shootout and drag all of these internet racers???

[JustaGT]

Looks sick! cant wait to see it out!

[BUCKETT]

Some more pics on Yellow Bullet.

[AutoMods]

Some more pics on Yellow Bullet.

those injectors going to work out for you?

[BUCKETT]

I think?

[BGjohnson]

It will be nice to see this setup this summer. You should have the car more out and about right?

[Ginter]

Looks awesome!

[BUCKETT]

Well car is on the road. I have the first tune from Jon Lund and have put about 30 miles on it. I have just been out getting some miles on it. It has only seen 5 to 6 lbs of boost and 5000 to 6000 rpm just for a few sec. It is cold out and the 325's just kill the pavement. Its new to me! I have the first 2 datalogs done and sent back to him. Waiting for the update and then will be able to let it eat some more.


Its a little loud with just turn downs off my old 4 inch mufflers but it sounds mean!! I plan on buliding some tailpipes for it in the next few weeks. I have driven the car more in the last week than I have in 2 years. It does feel good to stop at QT and put gas in it!

[Drifte]

Awesome! I want to see it running.

[BGjohnson]

No kiddin, vids!!!

[AutoMods]

hows the idle quality and afr?

[slow ride]

I'm glad you got it running so quick. Once ironed out it should be a hand full for sure.

[stangvortech]

are you just one pump gas I take it?

[MurderedSnake]

Looks good!

[bizzle]

any running vids yet?

[Xboosted23X]

I think I saw you over by NAPA last weekend in grand junction. The car was pretty loud but sounded real nice.

[Scott]

I would invest in some electric cutouts!! I put some on my cobra and love it, just flip the switch and scare all the old people

[BUCKETT]

Well tail pipes are on the list. For now it has my old 4 inch split flows. The car is loud but it sounds goooooood! If I go under the axle the axle brace is all up in the way. If I go over the axle
I will have to pull the anti roll bar. So I am thinking of cutting the brace and going uner the axle. Just dont fell the way the axle is braced is going to matter. I feel it was a waste of $ when I had it done. I will try to post a pic of it.

Yes that was me in Valley Junction. I live in that area.

[BUCKETT]

Almost made 700 hp on pump gas 91 octang. Tune needs some work from 5500 to 7500. I just may have to back down the boost to get it done on 91. Was making 15.6 psi on the dyno. The 60's may be too small, well that is what the tuner said, I dont think so?

Them mod motors dont make the torque like the push rod stuff does. mid 550's

This all means nothing if it is not safe. So I think the #'s may be going down, But 600 hp on the street is more that enough. We were fucking with a car on the way home. It pulls great on the highway!

[BGjohnson]

Awesome man, good numbers on 15ish PSI!!

[BUCKETT]

Well took 2 pounds of boost out. Put fuel where it needed to be and It still made close to 700 rwhp!

[sparkles]

Nice numbers man. Hope to see it out soon.

[c_mart_28]

Weak :)


Good work Puckett. Can't wait to show you my tail lights!

[BUCKETT]

I'am ok with that. That was with a full set of tailpipes. Been it the mid 5's and ran a handfull of high 8's. I am sure I can take this new combo there. NO THANKS! Been There Done That! All have to show is a crap ton of time slips!

[AutoMods]

I'am ok with that. That was with a full set of tailpipes. Been it the mid 5's and ran a handfull of high 8's. I am sure I can take this new combo there. NO THANKS! Been There Done That! All have to show is a crap ton of time slips!

well said. build it to drive it and enjoy it.

[snickerlicker]

Supercharged Coyote FTW!! Nice #'s!!

[c_mart_28]

Yeah, no kidding, well said.

Spending countless time/money/effort on a setup that never sees the.street is a hard one for me to understand.

Again, nice to hear it's all coming together well. Now hit the local QT for some 91 octane and a big gulp and go for a drive!

[AutoMods]

congrats to John for the website feature on his car

http://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/drag-week-reader-build-boosted-coyote-powered-mercury-capri-makes-900hp-tire-eats-clutches/

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