new from sioux city

[goldluderay]

new from sioux city iow...i see most of you guys are from the other side of the state...
i usually run a thundervalleydragway in marion sd...but would love too check out eddyville at some point...


i had a nice post made out with pics but i wasnt loged in so this is short i will update later on...


i have a 1989 toyota mr2 sc for a dd fun car...it is spraying a 50shot and has 11psi of small stock blower fun....car has ran a 14.7@92mph years ago and i have some other new mods done too it hopeing too get a high 12sec time if the tranny aint fried...its old and might just have a streached shift cable im trying new cables soon..


my drag car is a 2100lbs race weight 1992 honda prelude that is a allmotor/nitrous car...it ran a 11.3@127mph on s stock type bottom end last year and gave out on the dyno spraying too much...new motor is full forged and capeable of way motor hopefully...hitting the dyno up aug 5th with it and hopefully go faster soon

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[JustinS]

Mmmm, high compression Honda!

[goldluderay]

yep its around 13.5.1compression....
my head has been milled and it has skunk 2 flat faced valve(both up the compression)
the pistons are 86.5 k20 pistons...when in a k20 motor they are 12.0.1cr...but being in a h/f series motor i get more compression out of them...

[Drifte]

awesome rides, and welcome.

[CiviC_boY]

nice car man... welcome.

[TbTalon94]

Awesome rides.

I'm likin the venturi crank vent. Don't see a whole lot of people do that. It's better then most honda guys that have 4 10an vents on the valve cover to a can in the corner lol.

Welcome

[goldluderay]

yeah the exhaust pcv is always a good idea for a car that doesnt have a cat and such...


thanks for the welcome guys

[Grr]

thats pretty BA, nice setups for sure!

[clutchmuch]

Welcome!

[AutoMods]

welcome, make sure you update us with your dyno numbers

[Deimos]

no dyno numbers for Ryan. You know a guy that use to drive a blue eclipse with carbon fiber hood and now has a 350z up in sioux city?

[goldluderay]

i dont know....i dont see many 350z's around...


i made 240whp n/a on the last oem based motor and 338whp on the 11.3@127mph pass...and i made 399whp for one pull on a 150shot....


im hopeing the new motor can put down over 260whp n/a and over 420whp on the 150shot...i could see the car makeing 280whp n/a and around 450whp on the 150shot...

[Domestic Disturbance]

Damn thats one nasty little honda. I love that style prelude too.

[goldluderay]

http://youtu.be/M4dxCNs6O2c
ifo vid of the lude running a 11.3 at kansa's city raceway


12sec n/a pass at thundervalley...i get waxed by a fast 3gen f-body
http://youtu.be/U0SQW_9n9iw


street tire vs street ls1 t/a vs my lude n/a from behind
http://youtu.be/_99vEM9wkbg


theese vids will give an idea of how the car sounds thanks guys for the comments


trailblazerss w stall vs my lude n/a on slicks from the front...this truck smoked the lude out of the gate and i barely caught it
http://youtu.be/tkoBXOUP-cs

[85XR7Project]

Welcome to the site, always loved the old Mr. Two. The Lude is pretty badass as well.

[AutoMods]

nice ... am i wrong or does it seem like most honda guys do turbo setups instead of the nitrous only route.

so your car weighs under 2000lb's without you in it?

[goldluderay]

yes most honda guys run either all-motor or turbo...
nitrous only set-ups or supercharged set-up's are kinda bastard like in the honda world....
i have ran the car at ifo events in both the all-motor class's and boosted class's....i usually qualify mid field...but that was on the old stock piston/stock stroke motor....the power too weight of this new motor is far superior compared the old motor hopefully atleast

yes im a 180lbs and the car w/o me is 1940lbs....the scale i weight in on goes in 20lbs incriments so its a close estimate....so yeah give or take the race weight w me and bottle and full fuel cell is around 2120-2150..leaning more towards the 2120lbs.....it is the lightest class leagal fwd street car prelude know on the forums...there has been a rwd swaped lude slighty lighter than mine somehow lol....it hold other prelude forum bizz buzz records as well... im hopeing too maybe set some in general honda chassie records with the car and possiblly some general
h22 records too

[AutoMods]

lets see a picture of inside the car, I'd imagine its pretty bare

[snickerlicker]

Video was doctored, no way you beat a mighty LS1......LOL

[goldluderay]

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GoldLudeRay/001-11.jpg
gutted doors and rear decklid/quater pannells

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GoldLudeRay/002-8.jpg
fuel cell and small ass raditor you can also see my front ladderbar there as well

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GoldLudeRay/cars/005-8.jpg
nitrous and plastic race seat

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GoldLudeRay/cars/006-7.jpg
no dash no head no nothing basically lol



some of thees pics are old i need too updated


in ifo for the boosted class's nitrous and supercharded only cars are allowed full gut like this cause we make less power..and turbo cars must retain dash and door pannells i belive...my car is still heavyier than a civic done right for class racing...and in all motor class's they allow full gut like mine in any honda...


i have no exhaust as well and have shaved all hangers and all

[AutoMods]

yes that looks nice and light, would be easy to fix a wiring issue though ;)

[goldluderay]

yeah its easy too find lost wires and such lol...im going too make the wiring look better someday and primer the interior a flat red...

i still have some dual stage nitrous wireing too do...it has five nozzles and 3 solenoids...all need too run off of one wot switch...
so that will be happening real soon here too

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Welcome! Nice rides!

[Domestic Disturbance]

Holy diet thats nuts!

[goldluderay]

the car is super light....but in the stageing lanes its not that easy too push....i usually run the tires so low in psi that its like pushing a car with two flat tires up front....i still can do it too keep coolant temps down and such but i get sweating sometimes just pushing like that...but at my shop on normal tires i can push it where ever the hell i want..


generally the allmotor type honda's that are fast are scary light....there are pleany of cars weighting in at aroun 1800lbs with drivers...civic hatch's/crx's...but they dont make alot of power so they get away with a realy light weight...most of the bigger turbo guys weigh in around 2300-2500lbs becasue they actually need some of that weight for traction...

[DustinsDuster]

dig that MR2- you dont see many of them. welcome to the board.

[sparkles]

You should come down to the Ziebart meet July 30th. There is another guy on DS named mark that has an 89 that's just absolutely beautiful.

[goldluderay]

i think i have seen it...is it a red mr2?
if its the one im thinking of its way cleaner than mine lol....but probally goes faster lol...well when it can shift,something is wrong in the tranny i think...it needs fixed and bussy w the lude



lude has the new motor in and is actually on the ground for the first time in 3months...it was on layaway lol

here is the hood scoop and velocity stack
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just need too finish the nitrous pluming and wiring and fill it up and go dyno

the megaphone exhaust is alittle lower than i like it too be....im going heat it up and try bending it...it will be fine for track use and dyno but i sometimes drive it too the street races only if i have someone too run...so it may run the exhaust w all thees pot holes

[sparkles]

Yeah, it's a red one.

You engage in any street action with the Lude? We've got one down here with a GT35 that would be fun.

[Deimos]

If he comes down to DM, he should bring that supercharged thirdgen camaro in his town with him

[goldluderay]

i think i know of this 3rd gen camero it brians car....i love that car..looks so mean with that stance and blower on it...i see that car all the time...its red too....


and i do sometimes race the lude on the street....there is some vids i posted above of mee ripping it....im perty sure i know witch lude your taking about with the gt35...i have chatted with him and rosko's n/a lude before....im down too run some lude on lude action if it all goes good...i want too trailor it down too run at eddyville sometime

[goldluderay]

also i would hopefully come too eddyville with my buddies lude as well....i have help every step of the way with this car too
it has like a shit ton of 1/8th mile pass's with a best of a 7.7@96mph in the 1/8th...and we have added some nitrous on it as well...
the car has horrid turbo lag cause the trans is just pathitic in theese older honda's

its the orginal b20a5 old school motor...not the good b20...it has the shitty one
but made 420whp on 20psi

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GoldLudeRay/004-8.jpg

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its also a fully gutted car weight in at 2300lbs with him and a full 5gallon cell

[AutoMods]

brian bowers, lt1dan's uncle, also has a turbo lude in cedar rapids. he just got it running again. dan you need to tell him to bring it out to the streets

[c_mart_28]

Cool stuff man.

Just curious, why stay n/a and nitrous instead of turbo? I'd have to think you'd have a monster if you invested the same amount of cash on a turbo build rather.

Either way, I really dig it. Good work.

[goldluderay]

define monster? a 10second car it will defentially do that...9second car it's possible it has the low enough weight but getting honda's into the 9's is tricky i wold need i different suspesion thats for sure...a 8second car? mine would need more headwork and more displacement and more spray...or is a monster too you a car that makes 700whp and still also runs 10's but traps at like 150mph?


the never ending turbo vs n/a game....that's all im getting at
i like being the underdog..i like the sound of n/a stuff lol...i like the rumble and feeling of pure power...dont get me wrong i like turbo stuff as well like that 3rd gen lude above..
i helped with it everystep of the way...he is going too go h22 and make over 600whp w it eventually...


i like the sleeper perspective of my car....just a non turbo n/a lude w some spray in a heavy honda prelude(preludes usually aint raced they weight like 3000lbs stock)
mine is the lightest known that is on the forums


take in mind the car is drag car set-up...not a highway queen or dyno king....
the fastest turbo street car honda in the world made over 1200whp and weighted in at 2600lbs and ran mid 8second times.....
the fastest all motor honda in the world made barely over 400whp and weighted 1700lbs and ran mid 9second times....
take that same all motor car and drop the compression just a tad and give it nitrous specific cams/headwork and nitrous specific intake and header....and give it a dual maybe even triple stage nitrous kit totaling a 300shot or so...add some weight too traction and you may have yourself a 8second non-turbo honda damn near running with 1200whp cars...just because allmotor and nitrous car run close too what there power too weight says it should run....thats anthor reason i like allmotor/spray only....


sure on the highway or youtube rool style turbo for the win...but allmotor nitrous stuff on the drag strip is very competive....
v-8 carb guys love all-motor spray and go damn fast.....ricer's can do the same.....thats anthor reason i like my car...carbed v-8 guys enjoy my car there curious.. its fast, loud rumbly and doesnt have snail...just like them except smaller and way lighter and makeing way less power....


but like i said i love all forms of fast cool cars no matter what power them

[c_mart_28]

Good reply. I get it. Good motives.

Buut...couldn't you be embarrassing guys well into the 9 second range by now with a turbo setup? (Keep in mind, I fought an up-hill battle with a turbo rotary for like 5+ years so I get it....)

[goldluderay]

not sure.... i do know that the fastest h22 street car fwd prelude in the country is running a 10.0@148mph with 800whp atleast it is the fastest that posts on the forums...and its turbo.....
im sure he will hit 9's with it eventually im not sure i ever will but i can try lol....fwd stuff is hard it gets very trick kinda the fun in it....
i have had this car for like 7yrs just decided too go with allmotor/spray and havent looked back..


most rotary guys are die hard turbo nuts....
but there are some wicked fast lightweight all motor rotarys out there too....
i belive rotarys dont mess with spray much though..isnt there some theory about rotarys hating the quick combustion chamber temp that nitrous cause's?

[DustinsDuster]

wrong wheel drive- HAH.

[goldluderay]

yep the blow wheele drive cutting 1.6 60ft's

[LT1Dan]

brian bowers, lt1dan's uncle, also has a turbo lude in cedar rapids. he just got it running again. dan you need to tell him to bring it out to the streets

Didn't expect to see my name when I clicked this thread. lol I'll talk to him next time I see him. See if I can't get him to sign up on the board too.

[Drifte]

Why go prelude then if the recipe is light weight n/a? When my brother finally got out of lightweight hondas and sold the 91 hatch, 4 of us picked it up and put it on the trailer. Lightweight was an understatement, suspension and wheels and engine etc were all out at the time.

I think Id run a CRX if I was to go fwd, n/a. Find an old HF, cant do 1g though, too ugly for me.

[goldluderay]

i have asked myself that as well too the above....
i just have had this lude for so long and never looked backed...i like the style of ludes and that there different...
but if i could rool back time when i was 20yrs old i would of never riped apart the lude...i would of left it alone as a nice fun slow car
and buy a crx and go superlightweight w it.....but the lude is what i have and im working as best i can with it

[goldluderay]

here is some updated nitrous switch pics


arming board
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GoldLudeRay/001-22.jpg

this is too select witch ign/fuel map at work
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GoldLudeRay/002-18.jpg

1st gear nitrous lockout..and 2nd gear big sshot activate
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GoldLudeRay/005-9.jpg


i have fluids filled and not leaks are found dry cranking it..so im set for dyno day the 5th

[AutoMods]

blurry hurts my eyes

[goldluderay]

yeah i know i lost my cable for my good camera

[goldluderay]

mrsc on a 75 shot clicked a 13.45@101 last night...that run also making the headgasket fade some lol...so i only got two runs on spray in and one i launched poorly....the car wasnt launching as good as it usually does..it usually gets 1.8's the best i could muster was a 1.98...im thining track prep was bad or the nitto nt01 tires dont like that smooth pavement..on the street it seems too bite harder...


anyway a new ebay 4agze and a milled head with a performance headgasket i think it can run high 12's on a 75shot....a buddys prelude ripped a 12.0@119mph on last night as well...

[goldluderay]

vid of the mr2sc running a 13.45@101
i lost too anthor sioux city built lude....he had issues on this run but still got the win over me lol

http://youtu.be/LJrXv8CsySM


here is a vid of the gold lde running a 12.0 only .2 away from the current 3rd gen forum record..were turning the boost up next time lol..this was on 19psi

http://youtu.be/gJnoThdoS5U

[GT35Lude]

nice. wish i could just drive my car.

[AutoMods]

nice runs

[goldluderay]

nice. wish i could just drive my car.

i hear ya...im like biteing my lip waiting too run my lude..after racing the mr2sc im hooked again lol

[Domestic Disturbance]

DAMN you would've never convinced me that mr2 could do 13's from that pic you showed. Thats pretty sweet

[goldluderay]

hell yeah lol..the little 1.6 that could lol...
im hoping too get into the 12's at some point...im thinking a better head gasket and milled head along with a bigger fuel pump and some e85 should do it

[goldluderay]

got the nitrous stuff ready for friday dyno day

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GoldLudeRay/001-23.jpg


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