F body questions

[85XR7Project]

A kid I work with has a fairly decent looking camaro (LT1 body style) only problem is it has the weak ass 3.4. Well it took a massive shit the other day after work and now he wants to put an LS1 or LT1 in it. I told him the best course of action would be to buy a wrecked one, I tell him it'd be easier to find a new car with either engine but he is sold on punishing himself. Either way I just wanted some thoughts as I have been charged with finding the donor car for this whole project.

[sparkles]

Depends on the budget. To be realistic, the price of 4th gens that are already sporting a V8 are coming down. Unless he's going to do everything himself and has a good mechanical ability, he's probably going to spend just as much swapping it then if he'd just sell his and buy a v8. I'd vote to throw a blower or turbo on the v6. It'd be different. There's a new guy on the forum that has a pretty sick v6 F Body.

[85XR7Project]

I'm trying to convince him to do maybe like a gtp sort of setup or something like that. I think the v8 option is a little to far for his capabilities. I'd probably end up doing it all.

[sparkles]

That's what I was thinking. Get a blower off a GTP or something and swap it.

[Stutz]

You would need to put in 3.8 to swap a m90 off a L67 on plus it wouldnt clear the cowl. You'd probably need to look at what the aussie guys do with a rwd l67. Its been done before but it'd be a hell of a lot better/easier to swap in a LT1 or Ls1 or just buy a car that already has one

[Stutz]

Plus you'd need L67 heads/lim/etc. Its kinda pointless unless it already had a good 3800 motor already in it.

Your best bet would be to get a aussie M90 like this so the tb isnt buried way back into the cowl (dont pay attention to the snout in the pic its a YT one)
http://i42.tinypic.com/2002n1c.jpg

[85XR7Project]

Honestly I think he bought the wrong car for performance at all. Even a 3800 camaro would have had more he could have done...

[Deimos]

from what i understand people are putting some pretty good numbers out of the 3.4 when they are beefed up tell him to research it.

[85XR7Project]

He seems kinda car retarded, he couldn't even figure out there was a problem when he blew the head gasket. I really don't want to put in the time doing anything to it for him to go and fuck it all up. I do know a kid with a supercharged 3.8 camaro and it's decent but he actually knows his shit.

[SledgeWS6]

Tell him he'll just end up dumping a shit ton of money into something not worth it. He'll have to upgrade damn near everything as it sits.
This kid from Marion I talk to DAILY is trying to do the same thing w/ a firebird. I told him right off, not worth it, but he is attempting it anyway with almost zero knowledge of cars, down to basic oil changes.

[snickerlicker]

Tell him you can't polish a turd.....

[sparkles]

Evidently you can. Look at any Mustang.

[snickerlicker]

Says the guy with the 3rd gen F-Body.....

[85XR7Project]

I told him he has the worst possible situation to make any sort of performance. A "shituation" if you will, I told him to throw another 3.4 in it and look for a v8 camaro/firebird. I didn't really want to do all the work anyway.