Just a lil honda...

[civicex_1134]

Thought id post my build thread on here and see what you guys think. ALL assembly was done by yours truly......

Well to start, ill just say that i went to CFR early Aug. and on my 3rd pass, (on spray), it hooked and i was sprayin at low RPM............BOOM!!!!! No2 backfire at the line. It sat in the driveway for a lil bit and i started building an LS/Vtec project. My goal was to be able to drive it everyday, be reliable but not crazy, go to the track and run mid-high 13s.

Build specs:
B18B1 bottom end
PR3 B16A3 head
GSR cams
ARP rod bolts
LS head gasket
Stock LS pistons and rods
Rebuilt B16A oil pump
GSR water pump
GSR timing belt
Golden Eagle dowels
Custom Hose oil feed line
After break-in, it will be sprayed with 75 shot
93 LS trans

No2 set-up
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/SAM_0378.jpg

Backfire damage, (1inch chunk out of #4 piston/chunk out of sleeve)
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0712.jpg

The office gets messy
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0633.jpg

My 4 door:
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0658.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0653.jpg

The block, it had super high miles:
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0595.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0594.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0593-1.jpg

Pulled the head off
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0598.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0600.jpg

Head had cracked valve
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0628.jpg

Then pulled the bottom end apart
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0635.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0643.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0641.jpg

Crank had no spun bearings, no nicks,... all good there
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0640.jpg

Pistons were nasty gross. Oil smelt like old diesel oil
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0642.jpg

Then i cleaned em, put in ARPs, and GSR rings
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0711.jpg

Oil feed line set-up off block
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0634.jpg

Got the block back from machine shop
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0698.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0705.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0701.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0700.jpg

PR3 B16A3 head
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0626.jpg

Oil feed, back of head
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0649.jpg

Oil plug on bottom of head
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0651.jpg

Got stuff in the mail
Golden eagle dowels, King rod/main bearings and thrust washers
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0697.jpg

Hastings GSR rings, HG, and thx to jasin for the skunk2 boxs hehe, (GSR cams)
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0709.jpg

Only paid $65 for everything u see there
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0714.jpg

Installed the water pump and tensioner.....
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0718.jpg

Installed PCV box and put the sensor back on.....
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0722.jpg

Used a buddies ring compressor and got the pistons put in...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0723.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0724.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0725.jpg

Pushed the new mains into place...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0727.jpg

Put some assembly lube on and slowly set the crank in...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0728.jpg

Pulled the pistons into place, put in new rod bearing along with assembly lube, torqued to 26ft/lbs...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0729.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0731.jpg

Pushed the new mains into the main caps and got those torqued to 56ft/lbs...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0732.jpg

Had the nnew rear main seal pressed in and bolted it to the block...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0733.jpg

Then bolted down the windage tray...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0735.jpg

Flipped it over and put on the new HG and Golden eagle LS/Vtec dowels...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0736.jpg

Slowly set the head down and torqued all the bolts to 60tf/lbs...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0737.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0738.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0740.jpg

Set the 30k mile GSR cams...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0741.jpg

JDM P30 IMF...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0743.jpg

Pressed on the cam caps, and cam rails, torqued to 20ft/lbs...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0744.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0745.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/car%20stuff/SAM_0746.jpg

This is what she looked like when it went in...
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/SAM_0753.jpg

Leave comments
Dallas

[85XR7Project]

Pretty neat, never really looked at all went into a Honda build. Always been a V8 guy until my mom in law gave me her old 92 Accord. I'd rock something like that, it'd be a blast to drive.

[Deimos]

My camaro will eat your Honda and crap a Neon.

[snickerlicker]

^ hell yeah

[Drifte]

poopin' Neons is no joke, you can get like $400 for that.

[sparkles]

Why did you put pistons in, set crank in, bolt pistons onto crank, and put caps on crank, in that order?

[civicex_1134]

Just the way i was taught.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

Why did you put pistons in, set crank in, bolt pistons onto crank, and put caps on crank, in that order?

way to pay attention, I didn't even notice that.

Dallas = Weirdo :bigthumb:

[clutchmuch]

This wouldnt happen to be sitting on 19th street SE would it?

[civicex_1134]

^Creeper....... lol

[85XR7Project]

I think you just earned yourself a stalker.

[JacobS]

akwarddd.....you might see my car around there too.

[civicex_1134]

On the way is a new VTEC head gasket and new top end gasket kit. with new valve seals. Hopefully goin to the dyno sometime in Jan or Feb........ hopin to see at least 160 on motor. Itll have a 75 shot in the spring, along with drag radials...... 205/55/14s

[Clinical]

160 seems pretty low, but I guess then again its mostly a stock build with GSR cams

[civicex_1134]

Im not gonna set my hopes real high, thats all. The guy thats tuning it said hes seen 190 out of a bone stock LS/Vtec with LS pistons, ITR cams, and real aggressive tune. I secretly want 175-180. But the car will have a lot torque, gotta remember its a gutted EF 4 door, on spray..........

[Drifte]

Im not gonna set my hopes real high, thats all. The guy thats tuning it said hes seen 190 out of a bone stock LS/Vtec with LS pistons, ITR cams, and real aggressive tune. I secretly want 175-180. But the car will have a lot torque, gotta remember its a gutted EF 4 door, on spray..........

What's "a lot"?

And what does it weigh?

[civicex_1134]

it should have more torque than a GSR or the same. And last year with full interior, full tank of gas and me in it........ 2280lbs. Weighed it at alter steel. It now has a dash and 2 seats

[Clinical]

My hatch daily weighs 2200 :)

[civicex_1134]

is that actually weighed or is that what the title says?

[Clinical]

Bone stock weight from what ive read is like 2200-2300. Ive never looked at my title

[Drifte]

I've read a hundred different things, have to weigh it to really know. I know I weighed my old Talon and it was impressively lighter than stock, with mostly minor things gone.

[Scott]

Looks good Dallas, just a couple questions and observations..

Stock pistons?
did you measure piston/cylinder clearance? bearing clearances?
Seems like your torque specs for rods and mains are pretty dam low to me.

and yeah that is a back words way to assemble a engine, at least to me it is. I've always installed the crank first then installed pistons with bearing in it already and put on rod caps as you go.

Your making good progress man I like it, keep it up

[civicex_1134]

The only clearenes i didnt check were the mains and rods...... only cuz sperry told me everything was perfect and to just order stock bearing clearances... Top ring is .011 2nd ring .08

Thx scott, i aint ridin no dyno anymore am i? lol

[Scott]

LOL hell yeah, hope it runs good for ya man

[Drifte]

Maybe I missed something. Is this assembled now, and ready to go?

[JacobS]

yea.... it went in a few months back. Its got about 2k miles on it actually. Just gonna put a new top end gasket kit on and get it tuned....

[Drifte]

Blow a headgasket?

[civicex_1134]

no, used the wrong one...... oops. Its got an LS head gasket, needs a GSR. And i bought some cheap ass ebay gasket kit for the head, so the cam seals and valve cover are leaking. It also needs new valve seals.

[Jappbox]

2k miles holly crap that was fast!

[civicex_1134]

Thx, means alot to have a compliment from ya. Ordered the kit today, should be here the 23rd.....

[clutchmuch]

^Creeper....... lol

nahhh haha i used to live on 20th st se. i passed that car a hundred times. just wonderin if that was the same one. its snuggled in about a foot of snow right now i just passed it on my way home tonight.

[civicex_1134]

So i got the car outta the snow bank it was in.... And im doin the top end gasket kit this weekend, but i have 1 big problem and i need some help.... I dont know how to do valve seals/wouldnt have any special tools for the job. Someone help me here... plz? Thanks.

Dallas

[Deimos]

yeah I got two of them on my garage floor autozone or advance rent the tools out

[civicex_1134]

cant.... u only got about 1/4 in gap between all the springs. not enough room

[civicex_1134]

Got the head pulled off, went to start on the valve seals and realized i had no clue what the fuck i was doing, lol. So i pulled IMF off and took the head to sperry. $120 out the door: Hot tanked, .005 off the head, and new valve seals in. Got it done next day! Cars all back together, temp dont go over 140 degrees which makes me happy...... runs cool. But my blower motor isnt working, so its cold as shit! lol. Goin to the dyno next friday! wish me luck...

[civicex_1134]

Rescheduled the dyno for saturday the 15th. I get paid friday, and got the day off work, so im gonna spend the day relaxin and gettin the little things lined up. Gotta drive to Des Moines for the dyno, JacobS is followin me up, and civic_boy is ridin with me. Not sure what to expect, so im goin up to just get it tuned........ numbers? ill let u know what it makes.....

[AutoMods]

good luck

[sparkles]

Where are you taking it?

[Drifte]

Yea good luck. Everyone has a set number in mind heading to a dyno. I secretly wished for the hp I actually got. Had a low number in mind too. SO give us an idea!

Try hitting the blower motor.

[JacobS]

Where are you taking it?

wrenches. same place ill be taking my car.

[LT1Dan]

May have been asked but I'm to lazy to read through...Are you spraying it on the dyno at all?

I know how much you love the juice...lol

[civicex_1134]

No, not sprayin on the dyno, the guy knows what the set-up is tho. dry 75 shot...... hes puttin the AFRs a lil rich, like 12.0 or 12.5, sumthin like that.

Also, my cars weighs next to nothing, so if i put down 170 TO THE WHEELS, ill be happy :) Other than that, just cant wait to finally have it tuned!!!!

[Clinical]

idk if it's different since your n/a or if you're running a different fuel but I'd think 12.0/12.5 would be tuning more lean

[AutoMods]

No, not sprayin on the dyno

little gun shy? mineaswell spray it while you got the tuner there.

[Ricky]

idk if it's different since your n/a or if you're running a different fuel but I'd think 12.0/12.5 would be tuning more lean

N/A is a whole different ball game.

[Drifte]

15:1 afr's turbo, im not messin around.

[Ricky]

15:1 afr's turbo, im not messin around.
:BURNOUT:


thank god it starts to lean out under full boost.....

[FiFdYnUtZ]

I keep my car at around 12.2 afr...and that's decently rich still

[~626~]

What ECU are you using? What are you using for engine management (or going to use)?

[JacobS]

Hes using Cromepro.... Its a chipped P28 vtec ECU. They tune with it down there. Fyi, itll be on a dynojet :)

[~626~]

Hes using Cromepro.... Its a chipped P28 vtec ECU. They tune with it down there. Fyi, itll be on a dynojet :)

Nice. Do they tune with Uberdata at Wrench's?

(Not trying to thread jack, good luck on the dyno civicex_1134.)

[Drifte]

No, not sprayin on the dyno, the guy knows what the set-up is tho. dry 75 shot...... hes puttin the AFRs a lil rich, like 12.0 or 12.5, sumthin like that.

Also, my cars weighs next to nothing, so if i put down 170 TO THE WHEELS, ill be happy :) Other than that, just cant wait to finally have it tuned!!!!

b16 head should gain you 30whp. I would expect to make that whp on a nice tune with those cams. If the car is gutting the hp should get you around pretty good. Hopefully it revs pretty high too.

[Ricky]

so i know you went to the dyno today. What was the numbers?

[JustinS]

They are prob still driving home, left about an hour ago...give it time.

[Drifte]

It's on his FB, but I'll leave it to him to announce his numbers. As ryan would say to me "not bad for a little 4 banger."

[sparkles]

160

[Drifte]

160
Apparently more like "175" :suspect:

[civicex_1134]

158hp and 122ft/lbs....... Its making more like 175hp and 130ft/lbs.... why? cuz the front end is so fucked up and out of alignment that it was shakin the shit out of the dyno itself. He said im losing about 10% of the power i should be making cuz of how bad it shakes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFBsGrgIyCg

[Drifte]

sweet muffler vid dood. dyno chart?

Whats that car weigh in at?

[civicex_1134]

2200 with a full tank of gas and me in it.... pics of the chart are comin

[civicex_1134]

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt318/teggy1134/SAM_0860.jpg

[krustindumm]

I think my sedan was lighter.

Also, change that oil T ASAP. Having that 3" pipe nipple in there is a bad idea.

It looks like you forgot the assembly lube in that original build.

[civicex_1134]

uhm, no...... i most def did not for get assembly lube, im smarter than that....... And thats not a 3in nipple, its only 1 1/2in and its been on there for damn near 4,000 miles and the motor doesnt leak a drop of oil. I maybe just a noob to sum of u guys, but ive been learning hondas since i was 14. And while they may not be as long as most of u, i do know enough to use assembly lube, and know what parts not to use.

[sparkles]

160
Apparently more like "175" :suspect:

Wow, looks like I was closer. Think before posting gay emitiocons :butthead:

PS. That is what I was told by the shop, and beings how nobody had posted anything yet, I figured I would.

[civicex_1134]

160
Apparently more like "175" :suspect:

Wow, looks like I was closer. Think before posting gay emitiocons :butthead:

PS. That is what I was told by the shop, and beings how nobody had posted anything yet, I figured I would.

What the shop told u was what i put down, Brian even said it should be puttin down way more, but it shakes so much the dyno isnt readin it correctly

[sparkles]

Not disagreeing, but that IS what it actually got to the rollers, correct. You're missing the point. Either way, Good numbers for a NA run in such a light little car.

[AutoMods]

how much nitrous can that motor handle?

[Drifte]

160
Apparently more like "175" :suspect:

Wow, looks like I was closer. Think before posting gay emitiocons :butthead:

PS. That is what I was told by the shop, and beings how nobody had posted anything yet, I figured I would.

Im not sure this makes any sense? :suspect:

[Clinical]

160
Apparently more like "175" :suspect:

Wow, looks like I was closer. Think before posting gay emitiocons :butthead:

PS. That is what I was told by the shop, and beings how nobody had posted anything yet, I figured I would.

Im not sure this makes any sense? :suspect:
:WORSHIP: :prayer: :prayer: :) :supz: :butthead: :rolleyes: :sleep: :suspect: :yawinkle: :Hangman: :bear: 8) :cop: :chef: :mad: :tonqe: :rock: :biggrin: :help: :roll: :bigthumb: :baby: :vom: :drool: :goodman: :neener: :cop: :CRYMERIVER: :misterlock: :whip: :CALLBS: :angel: :bubb: :toimonster: :ranting: :repost: :offtopic: :iagree: :BURNOUT: :bawling: :puke: :chef:

[Deimos]

:BURNOUT: What was with the thrash talk last night?

[sparkles]

160
Apparently more like "175" :suspect:

Wow, looks like I was closer. Think before posting gay emitiocons :butthead:

PS. That is what I was told by the shop, and beings how nobody had posted anything yet, I figured I would.

Im not sure this makes any sense? :suspect:

I'm sure it wouldn't for you.

[civicex_1134]

im sure if it had a wet kit and it was tuned right, it handle a bit....... im personally only running a dry 75 shot. which last year untuned was doorin a lot of ppl and everybody liked it, so this year the suspension will be fixed, itll have a b16 trans, and tuned with the 75 shot.... just an FYI, I built this motor by myself! and it now has quite a bit of miles on it. it just ran 80mph to des moines, 2hrs of dyno time, then 80mph back home......... i love this motor!

[Drifte]

160
Apparently more like "175" :suspect:

Wow, looks like I was closer. Think before posting gay emitiocons :butthead:

PS. That is what I was told by the shop, and beings how nobody had posted anything yet, I figured I would.

Im not sure this makes any sense? :suspect:

I'm sure it wouldn't for you.
:goodman:

[krustindumm]

uhm, no...... i most def did not for get assembly lube, im smarter than that....... And thats not a 3in nipple, its only 1 1/2in and its been on there for damn near 4,000 miles and the motor doesnt leak a drop of oil. I maybe just a noob to sum of u guys, but ive been learning hondas since i was 14. And while they may not be as long as most of u, i do know enough to use assembly lube, and know what parts not to use.

I hope you have fun when it cracks and you loose oil pressure to the head.

But really, every pic the cams are dry.

[Batwood]

Good job on the build...

Any idea what it made for power before?

[civicex_1134]

cams came out of a motor, they had oil all over them already, so did the head. so assembly lube wasnt necessary as far as the head goes. But i did however use it in the bottom-end. And ill be sure to let u know when i "lose oil pressure", which im sure i wont. I think i know wtf im doin, kthxbye.

Batwood,... It only picked up a few hp, but first pull the AFRs were all over the place, fluctuating between 11.2-maxed out lean (18.0)..... Lucky it didnt blow up actually, now its a smooth 12.6-12.8, and throttle response is WAY better. Thanks for the compliment too.

[sparkles]

:goodman:

You're just way too cool man.

[JacobS]

:goodman:

You're just way too cool man.

were you there sparkles? just curious, would have been nice to put a face to the name.

[sparkles]

Creepin in the shadows man....

[sparkles]

I'm cleaning out one of our warehouses just down the road from there and setting up our new shop. I stopped in to get a tire on my wife's car sealed back up. That was last week though. Honestly, during the winter, I only stop in there every once in a while when I need something dumb like that, that I don't trust Firestone to do. I swear, they could fuck up a wet dream. Plus, I'd rather give my money to a local shop like Kelly's instead of a chain. He runs a great shop, it's nice and shiny, plus it's fun to BS with Chad and Brian.

The whole deal with my first post wasn't to stir shit up though. He hadn't posted what it made, so I decided to find out. That's what I was told, so I posted it. Hindsight is 20/20. Probably not my place to post his stuff, but for what it was, I thought it was impressive enough in a light car like that. Especially one that was done himself on a learning curve instead of just paying a machine shop to do it for you.

If you wanna meet me for real, let me know. I'll be at the bar in Cedar Rapids after work during the week soon enough.

[allgo]

im sure if it had a wet kit and it was tuned right, it handle a bit....... im personally only running a dry 75 shot. which last year untuned was doorin a lot of ppl and everybody liked it, so this year the suspension will be fixed, itll have a b16 trans, and tuned with the 75 shot.... just an FYI, I built this motor by myself! and it now has quite a bit of miles on it. it just ran 80mph to des moines, 2hrs of dyno time, then 80mph back home......... i love this motor!


Doorin what? Altimas,accords???

[AutoMods]

The whole deal with my first post wasn't to stir shit up though. He hadn't posted what it made, so I decided to find out. That's what I was told, so I posted it. Hindsight is 20/20. Probably not my place to post his stuff, but for what it was, I thought it was impressive enough in a light car like that. Especially one that was done himself on a learning curve instead of just paying a machine shop to do it for you.

I think when drifte posted "Apparently more like "175" " I think he was referring what Dallas thought it was going to make or what it could make. he wasn't saying you were wrong

[Deimos]

I wouldn'tmind putting a face to a name.

[AutoMods]

.... just an FYI, I built this motor by myself! and it now has quite a bit of miles on it. it just ran 80mph to des moines, 2hrs of dyno time, then 80mph back home......... i love this motor!

yea does feel good to to build something yourself and have it run sucessfully....congrats. nice to see some dyno action in the winter

[AutoMods]

Doorin what? Altimas,accords???

I knew that was coming. Probably hard to resist when your car dynos what ... 6 times the amount his did ??

[allgo]

Doorin what? Altimas,accords???

I knew that was coming. Probably hard to resist when your car dynos what ... 6 times the amount his did ??

Well I just read that and thought huh thats funny shit..

[snickerlicker]

Doorin what? Altimas,accords???

I knew that was coming. Probably hard to resist when your car dynos what ... 6 times the amount his did ??


More like 7 times....

[sparkles]

I wouldn'tmind putting a face to a name.
You got my number still?

[Deimos]

I don't think I do anymore.

[Jappbox]

should be a good race with the volvo. I would have put assembly lube on the cams even if they had "oil" on them, im sure the caps got scared a little on start up.

[civicex_1134]

Well when i pulled it all apart to do the top end gaskets, they were just as perfect as they always were. to end this argument b4 it get outta hand, ill say nothing went in that motor "bone dry", it ALL had some sort of lubrication b4 it was all torqued down.........

[Drifte]

The whole deal with my first post wasn't to stir shit up though. He hadn't posted what it made, so I decided to find out. That's what I was told, so I posted it. Hindsight is 20/20. Probably not my place to post his stuff, but for what it was, I thought it was impressive enough in a light car like that. Especially one that was done himself on a learning curve instead of just paying a machine shop to do it for you.

I think when drifte posted "Apparently more like "175" " I think he was referring what Dallas thought it was going to make or what it could make. he wasn't saying you were wrong

Yeap, saw his FB announcement of the numbers it had and the numbers it was supposed had it not been shaking. Which is a bit of a scary thought that it would shake that bad and drive 80mph on public roads...

Im sure your car is fun and rewarding. I just have gotten over the idea of all that time invested and still not keeping up with the average coupe coming out of the dealership doors. Which also have all basic amenities.

[Clinical]

The whole deal with my first post wasn't to stir shit up though. He hadn't posted what it made, so I decided to find out. That's what I was told, so I posted it. Hindsight is 20/20. Probably not my place to post his stuff, but for what it was, I thought it was impressive enough in a light car like that. Especially one that was done himself on a learning curve instead of just paying a machine shop to do it for you.

I think when drifte posted "Apparently more like "175" " I think he was referring what Dallas thought it was going to make or what it could make. he wasn't saying you were wrong

Yeap, saw his FB announcement of the numbers it had and the numbers it was supposed had it not been shaking. Which is a bit of a scary thought that it would shake that bad and drive 80mph on public roads...

Im sure your car is fun and rewarding. I just have gotten over the idea of all that time invested and still not keeping up with the average coupe coming out of the dealership doors. Which also have all basic amenities.

Speaking of newer cars, nothing new has really impressed me lately until something shocking did. A local guy here who has a 08 Z06, bought a new Hyundai Sonata with the 2.0 turbo engine for a daily driver/work car for traveling. 275hp, weighs like 3300lbs if I remember right.

Man that thing was surprising!! With me, him, and icwicked in the car it still felt pretty damn fast for a family sedan. Never thought a Hyundai would impress me like that haha. Reminds me of the first time I was surprised riding in a GTP.

Sorry, we aren't jacking your thread here or anything! :BURNOUT:


In all fairness though, I'd much rather work on this honda of yours than one of the newer electrical/emission/plastic nightmares coming out today. I swear, soon they'll figure out a way to make the entire heads/blocks/rods out of plastic. My grandmother bought a 2010 Kia Forte, nice car for the price but I can't get over how much stuff is plastic anymore..