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[Clinical]

Here we go again.

It's very filthy, just got home from driving it back 4 hours picking it up and its all dirty from everything from dust to splattered bugs, and the lighting from my camera's flash makes it look even worse.

Going to get a good thorough cleaning tomorrow and some nicer pictures.
All stock down to the exhaust.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0977.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0984.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0979.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0990.jpg

[ZEE]

:supz:

[snickerlicker]

Back to a domestic, smart man!!

[TbTalon94]

I like it, specially because it's manual!

[Drifte]

Those are fun cars, I just hate the interiors...well all the styling in general. But the ls1 and rwd make it lots of fun.

[Domestic Disturbance]

Very well done. :supz:

[AutoMods]

stock?

[FiFdYnUtZ]

git r done!

[Clinical]

yep stock down to the exhaust, does have some sway bars and subframe connectors, feels almost as good as my firebird did in the turns.. my firebird had about everything for suspension.

Already ordered SLP Lid and SLP LM Catback last night for it, that's going to be it for awhile while I fix little issues.

I bought it kind of with the idea of cleaning it up and making it real nice (not that it already is) and possibly flipping it in the spring and using the extra money + whatever I save up to buy a 1g dsm shell and build it from the ground up, but the z28 is already growing on me a lot.

I usually don't care for the 98-02 Camaro bodystle at ALL, but in the black I do enjoy it.
Interior I actually like a lot, the seats are SO god damn comfortable.. I always wanted these in my firebird and for good reason.


I joke with my friends how I traded out my domestic Illinois built DSM for my imported Canadian built f-body :P

[slo4cyl]

while I fix little issues

:suspect: Isnt that y you got rid of the DSM?

Nice looking camaro though

[sparkles]

Atta boy. Once you start modding the Camaro, you're gonna keep it. Throw some ET Streets on it, 150 shot and go to town.

[Clinical]

while I fix little issues

:suspect: Isnt that y you got rid of the DSM?

Nice looking camaro though

These are little itty bitty issues compared to the DSM :)

Coolant level sensor, brake pads, shifter rod & knob and leaking power steering line.

Pads are already halfway on, just took a break now to come in and eat, still got the passenger side to go yet.

After that junk there won't really be anything really wrong with it.
I'm hearing that I'll have a lot of fun installing headers :banghead:

Anyway, as promised here's some new pictures.
Still not washed due to the high chance of rain today and shitty weather in general but it still looks better without the stupid flash.
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0999.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0995.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0997.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0994.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0998.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/C1inical/IMG_0993.jpg






Also, question to other LS1 camaro owners, has anyone here found anything asides from blackouts to do to the headlights?
My least favorite thing on these cars is probably the headlights, but blackouts just dont appeal to me, I may tint the tails but that'd be it.

I've been looking for something like some gunsmoke'd headlights or something like I bought for my Mustang, i LOVED those and I think it'd make this look 3x better.

[AutoMods]

just leave the headers alone and do a rear mount turbo kit. the stock headers keep the heat in better.


then your car will sound like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hu8UL4ehaE

[Luminatorz34]

Also, question to other LS1 camaro owners, has anyone here found anything asides from blackouts to do to the headlights?
My least favorite thing on these cars is probably the headlights, but blackouts just dont appeal to me, I may tint the tails but that'd be it.

I've been looking for something like some gunsmoke'd headlights or something like I bought for my Mustang, i LOVED those and I think it'd make this look 3x better.


whistler mod ftw!!]

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/Stevecz28/camaro/camaro010.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/Stevecz28/camaro/camaro013.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/Stevecz28/camaro/Picture015.jpg

[Clinical]

that actually looks pretty nifty. Is there a writeup on how to do it?

[Clinical]

just leave the headers alone and do a rear mount turbo kit. the stock headers keep the heat in better.


then your car will sound like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hu8UL4ehaE
i wish
get me a kit for less than 1k and we'll talk hahaha
i'll trade my civic for a kit lol

[snickerlicker]

Rear mount turbo kits are JUNK. Don't waste your money.

[Luminatorz34]

that actually looks pretty nifty. Is there a writeup on how to do it?

pretty simple...take headlights out of car...2 10mm bolts to take them out. one on top its pretty obvious which one it is, and a bolt on the same bracket on the back of the headlights itself... then slide the whole headlight to the outside of the car (there are locking grooved tabs for them) then take the headlights place them on a block of wood and put them in the oven at 150 degrees for about 10 minutes or until the clear silocone is loose, take all the clips off headlight and remove lense. tape off the back of the headlight, and then take 600 grit sand paper and sand the surface your going to weant to paint...take a good quality black spray paint ( i used krylons plastic-x or something, its specifically for plastic) and shot a really like tack coat then did 2 more fairly heavy coats afterwards. let them dry over nite. re siliconed the bead around the lense and put headlights back together and re clipped them......let me know if ui need pics or anything, as i can do that to help ya out

[oVa-Boost]

NICE Camaro about time.. After you mod the camaro you wont go back to dsm's you would rather spend the money on the camaro.

[Domestic Disturbance]

+2 on whistler. I don't have many good pics of the front of my car though.
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs384.snc3/23474_1220610673594_1178730349_31122551_3291506_n. jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs313.ash1/27836_1240483330398_1178730349_31187112_2654626_n. jpg

[oVa-Boost]

Rear mount turbo kits are JUNK. Don't waste your money.

Correct STS/rear mount kits are dumb as they sit under the car and have mile long small ic pipping, with the price of the kit you could do nitrous kit, bolts ons, 12 bolt going to need it sense your car is manual, h/c and get a built t56

[Drifte]

I'd probably change the oil. Old oil is stupid. And only buy one specific brand, the rest are bad and a waste.

plenty more unnecessarily strong opinions where that came from.

oh yea.. refrigerator.

[Deimos]

always remember the pancakes

[snickerlicker]

Rear mount turbo kits are JUNK. Don't waste your money.

does that qualify as an unnecessary opinion?

[Deimos]

yes

[AutoMods]

I agree front turbo kits are better but there are plenty of rear mount kits that run 9's and are not gutted tin cans. maybe not the most efficient but dynos and time slips don't lie. these are lagier too.

i've posted this before but nitrous is always the cheapest bang for the buck for drag racing or winning a street race but I'm not a fan of nitrous for street driving. you can burn through a bottle of nitrous a day if your not conserving it. So theres a $55 refill plus your time to drive around and refill it. plus there is no part throttle abilities just wot. can't really control the nitrous with the throttle but you can do part throttle with turbo and control the boost. you would never go around a twisty road activating nitrous but you can with turbo building partial boost. when i had nitrous is just not as enjoyable for screwing around daily driving.

[Clinical]

well im not looking to get insane with the car.

I had my first real night of beating on it, boy that 6speed is something I'll have to get used to. It takes so much grunt to slam the gears, I'm so used to the talon its ridiculous. My buddy who had his C5 Bolt on 6speed LS1, and now has a 08 bolt on Z06, drove it and slammed the gears flawlessly, felt great for stock.

I definitely need to work on my driver mod!!
I also need a new shifter and a hurst at that.

That whister mod is a for sure thing.

[Domestic Disturbance]

Got a B&M ripper you should buy :bigthumb:

[Clinical]

actually I heard that this is a common issue with the t56's due to just purely old tranny fluid and also a great fix is the drill mod, sounds like I'll try that and see if it helps

[Ricky]

drill mod sounds like if it doesnt work you cant go back..... I would just change the fluid first and go from there

[Clinical]

Thats the intention but i don't see any downsides to doing the drill mod if it doesnt work.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

Cool... How's the mullet coming along?

[Clinical]

unfortunately I got my hair cut about a week ago, but no more hair cuts. Gonna save money and let it flow!


I seriously was going to buy a mullet wig when I had the firebird, that car just demanded a mullet.

[TbTalon94]

I could probably build a front turbo kit for less then a rear mount kit would cost you.

Just gotta let me know :)

[Clinical]

haha in all honesty i'm good.

if I do anything with the car it'll be a typical heads/cam setup.

Otherwise right now just going to be basic bolt ons, and we'll see how I feel and how my finances are after some winter saving.

[Domestic Disturbance]

Looks like a 98-99 too? Didn't see a year, but the slave cylinders had some issues up until late 00' models, which will give you a slow engage and sometimes doesn't want to come back up in my case. Drill mod is worth it though. I have the equivalent because I replaced the lines with the new adjustable master cyl, and wow what a difference.

[Clinical]

yep 99, yeah it doesn't like coming all the way back up.

My friend with the civic said he'd never touch an fbody, all the fbody guys around here are my friends but are all into LT1's and hate LS1's for some reason.

Ironically my buddy with the civic drove it and really liked it and is willing to help me work on it while the fbody guys don't want to really help with much on it.

What tranny fluid do you all recommend? I was just going to run Royal Purple, wasn't sure if there was something else others run in the t56 with success?

[Sleeping]

get a mgw shifter for it.

[Domestic Disturbance]

The Royal Purple atf has stuff in it thats proven to eat at some of the components in t56s. Either sychromesh or atf. I'm running mobil 1 synth. atf and I'm not really sold on it. I know Rob likes his synchromesh.

[ZEE]

I have a pro 5.0 shifter. Stock one really sucks. I really like it alot. Stock clutches suck. The later slave cylinders are better. Drill mod-did it but don't know if it made a difference but couldn't hurt. Headers aren't that bad. I put SLP ones in mine by myself and ask anybody they are the worst ones to install. It sucked but but with a lot of swearing they went in.

[Sledge_WS6]

Back to a domestic, smart man!!

Couldn't agree more, lol. I bet she's not stock for long!

[AutoMods]

I have an ACt clutch in my ls1 and really like it, very smooth. I also keep a few ACT clutches in stock for that car if and when you need one. Cost around $400 IIRC

[Clinical]

I was looking at getting a Centerforce, was around $300? We'll see though, my stock clutch still seems good. Still have time to save money and make decisions.

Found out a few things tonight.
I really know nothing when it comes to suspension, however my car being pretty much stock motor-wise, has GINORMOUS amounts of suspension work. Professionally done subframe connectors, massive swaybars, panhard bars, along with more.

So i decided to actually for once to put the car through its paces and got it into some twisties, and holy bejesus.. I've NEVER imagined a fbody handling corners and shit so well.

Although I found my rear pinion seal is leaking, poopy. But w/e.

[Sledge_WS6]

So i decided to actually for once to put the car through its paces and got it into some twisties, and holy bejesus.. I've NEVER imagined a fbody handling corners and shit so well.

Suspension is where it is at. Night and day performance after I put on the Panhard bar, LCAs, and better sway bar bushings this summer.

[ZEE]

My pinion seal always leaks. New ones never last long for some reason. Stock clutches always seem good until you got to the track with any kind of traction. Then they suck. Biggest difference suspension wise for me was the Koni shocks. Tremendous difference. Stock shocks are junk.

[AutoMods]

I was looking at getting a Centerforce, was around $300

At minimum you'd want the centerforce dual friction (some questionable reviews on how much power this really holds) or the centerforce dfx of which I've seen some good reviews on. $400 and $450 range .

[Clinical]

I'll be 100% honest here.

I'm enjoying the camaro, but I'm missing the talon more every day.
Then riding in a 577whp Laser doesn't help it much heh.


I don't know though, hopefully once I start modding this thing, my ideas will change.

[69gt4speed]

My pinion seal always leaks. New ones never last long for some reason. Stock clutches always seem good until you got to the track with any kind of traction. Then they suck. Biggest difference suspension wise for me was the Koni shocks. Tremendous difference. Stock shocks are junk.

I could not agree more I really believe long term w a d/d the tokico d specs are the sh=t. Expensive, u gotta buy 4 but that's my plan w the 2011. I def like my drag stuts on 03, it can drive like a crown vic on the hiway set at like 2. lil wobbly but rides well. Poly bushings go that path cheapest way for sure and grease those good w good syn grease, don't want those squeaking.

And like zee said don't mount slicks for track, if you do it will slip real soon. Seen it so many times with a gm esp. At least the tranny may hold up w a t56. Def better than a stang tranny till gt500 came out. When I get the 11 you game to see say on a roll (which favors a stick) what we can do w video?

[Domestic Disturbance]

And like zee said don't mount slicks for track, if you do it will slip real soon. Seen it so many times with a gm esp. At least the tranny may hold up w a t56. Def better than a stang tranny till gt500 came out. When I get the 11 you game to see say on a roll (which favors a stick) what we can do w video?
Yup slicks are what killed my stocker. Remember getting it to hook from 4k on the street, and it gradually slipping more and more where I wasn't even manually slipping it any more.

[ZEE]

Mine slipped with street tires at cedar falls when the motor was stock. :roll:

You get the '11 I'll test it anyway you want. Wouldn't mind trying the 03 off the bottle sometime. :biggrin:

[FiFdYnUtZ]

why not just go with an ls7 clutch? they are cheap and hold a good amount of power..

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Cool... How's the mullet coming along?

says the guy with 18 non running cars sitting around his house..

[Sleeping]

This is what I just ordered for my ls1. ls7 clutch package.

http://sdparts.com/details/scoggin-dick ... r/sdls7ack (http://sdparts.com/details/scoggin-dickey-parts-center/sdls7ack)

[Domestic Disturbance]

This is what I just ordered for my ls1. ls7 clutch package.

http://sdparts.com/details/scoggin-dick ... r/sdls7ack (http://sdparts.com/details/scoggin-dickey-parts-center/sdls7ack)
LS7 is what I have, and I love it. Ls2 flywheel though, cars too heavy to go alum.

[ZEE]

Isn't the LS2 flywheel a heavy mother.

[AutoMods]

yea the ls7 setup is 11-15lbs heavier iirc

[Sleeping]

Yea its heavy but the light flywheel brings it back close to stock.

[Drifte]

act street clutch, 2010 revision it holds I believe 700ft lbs of torque. And all the ls clutch/flyhweels are really heavy, my dsms clutch was 7lbs, the ls1 is 25-30lbs depending on which ones you get.

[Domestic Disturbance]

Ya the ls2 flywheel is heavy, but it should help me out of the hole. I can say it doesn't bog nearly as easily as it used to.

[sparkles]

Curious, how much did you get this for and do you have any pics of the suspension? Just curious on what you have.

[Clinical]

Me?

I bought the car for 4700, put 1,000 miles one it, had subframe connectors, panhard bars, swaybars, strut tower bar, i don't know all the name brands. Tokiko or w/e shocks with some crazy looking springs.

Sold it for $5400

[LT1Dan]

You sold the Camaro already?

[oVa-Boost]

You sold the Camaro already?

:rock: so this means he did, hes getting a dsm or civic i believe thats his plan

[Deimos]

as he should

[Domestic Disturbance]

as he should
lol

[Clinical]

haha, no love :toimonster:

[snickerlicker]

That toilet pic above in your post is you flushing $ down the shitter on another DSM.....

[Clinical]

That toilet pic above in your post is you flushing $ down the shitter on another DSM.....

yep, probably is

[FiFdYnUtZ]

Yup, that was dumb

[Clinical]

Yup, that was dumb

I guess.

If was only wanting to go fast, with no regards to the type of car I want to build & enjoy then yeah it was dumb.

[85XR7Project]

You go through cars more than I change clothes....

[LT1Dan]

You go through cars more than I change clothes....

No kidding. When this thread first went up I was jokingly gonna post "Let me know when you want to sell this car too". Looks like I should have posted it and I could have a LS1 in my garage as well.

[oVa-Boost]

Now that you have $5800 you could buy this dsm down here for 2900 and already has good mods and like slo4cyl said all you need is wide band and a tune or dsmlink at that and fix the lil issues it has :bigthumb:

[Clinical]

You go through cars more than I change clothes....
Yeah I think I'm going to give Keith a run for his money for that.


This is why I'm leaning towards something I'd for sure stick with, for example if I build something from the ground up - I guarantee I won't let that sucker go.

[85XR7Project]

I'll believe it when I see it. No offense.

[Clinical]

I'll believe it when I see it. No offense.
none taken, I'm looking at a car right now that I'm not even sure if I want because it's half built already but the price can't be beat, so who knows.

[Domestic Disturbance]

You go through cars more than I change clothes....

No kidding. When this thread first went up I was jokingly gonna post "Let me know when you want to sell this car too". Looks like I should have posted it and I could have a LS1 in my garage as well.
haha I know. I shouldn't have told you otherwise. Best of luck on whatever you get. Hope out of the 'cheap reliable fast' category you pick reliable and fast someday :bigthumb: damn dsm's anyway

[sparkles]

There are very few that any 1 or those 3 terms apply. Maybe some Evos, but that's about it aside from slo4cyl's.

[Sledge_WS6]

No kidding. When this thread first went up I was jokingly gonna post "Let me know when you want to sell this car too". Looks like I should have posted it and I could have a LS1 in my garage as well.

Woulda been a great car for Josh or Chris to snag up...oh well. We coulda had another LS1 project.

[Clinical]

You go through cars more than I change clothes....

No kidding. When this thread first went up I was jokingly gonna post "Let me know when you want to sell this car too". Looks like I should have posted it and I could have a LS1 in my garage as well.
haha I know. I shouldn't have told you otherwise. Best of luck on whatever you get. Hope out of the 'cheap reliable fast' category you pick reliable and fast someday :bigthumb: damn dsm's anyway

I already got reliable and fast, my bone stock 1.5L 235k mile DD Civic hit 100mph today!!!
Fuckin runs with vettes!!

[oVa-Boost]

lol the vettes must of been in park.

[Clinical]

haha was just some old dude with stickers all over his vette on the highway today.
Tried to take off to get him to get on it a bit, but he wouldn't bite. Didn't want none of that stock honda power!!!!

I'm not even sure if he heard my motor

[oVa-Boost]

haha.. and I give a shit about my Plymouth laser rs

[Ricky]

There are very few that any 1 or those 3 terms apply. Maybe some Evos, but that's about it aside from slo4cyl's.


slo4cyl's wasnt cheep... also it is slow as balls and hasnt ran for 2 weeks striaght...

:neener:

JK brent :butthead: