talon build almost done

[fawcett]

i have been building my talon for the past 3 years on and off and was wanting to know what i would be running for numbers in the 1/8 and the 1/4 and what i would be putting to the grown for hp.



-20 over boar stock pistons stock rods balanced crank

-head has been ported and polished i put 1mm over valves and 272 comp cams arp head studs and 3 laree metal head gasket

-sbr intake manifold

-550cc injectors with a 255 walbro fuel pump

-2g ported exhaust manifold

-16g turbo ported out

-20-25psi

-2 1/2inc intercooler piping with a 12"-25" intercooler

-3" gm maf

-3" exhaust

-safc

[FiFdYnUtZ]

finish it and take it to the track and dyno, then you will know...

now that ive stated the obvious, knowing what i know about dsm's (minimal) i would say it looks like a 12sec setup..

[Clinical]

Agreed with fifdy - sounds like a 12 sec setup however with cars such as DSM's it's hard to guess track times like this as you can have the same setup as the next guy but if you have a good tune and he doesnt there could be a whole second difference.

[fawcett]

thanks guys and nice looking ta fifdy look just like my ta

[FiFdYnUtZ]

;) right back at ya

[Drifte]

13.8 at 100mph

[Xboosted23X]

depending on how much your car weighs also is a factor. I would say if you got dsmlink or different tuning software it may help. AWD or FWD? 60 foot will tell alot. I would say low 12s.

[Ricky]

13.8 at 100mph

hummm sounds familiar....ass



Side note... you only have 550cc injectors? and you want to run 20-25spi on a 16g? im not a DSM guy so i dont really know but it sounds like you will be close to maxing those things out

[fawcett]

its awd and iam going to put biger injectors thats just what i had on it befor i stoped driving it

[fawcett]

i want to put a gt35r turbo on it befor spring hits how much do u think thats going to help me out?

[TbTalon94]

Nonsense, with gas 550's is plenty for a 16g at 23lbs. Evo's come with 560's and a bigger 16g and run 18psi from the factory..most turn it up to 26psi. It'll be just fine.

A 35r is a big step up from a 16g. It also requires a lot more supporting mods and something better to tune with then JUST an SAFC.

How about cams? That will help the 16g breath a lot more up-top and will probably be the most bang for your buck.

[Drifte]

13.8 at 100mph

hummm sounds familiar....ass



Side note... you only have 550cc injectors? and you want to run 20-25spi on a 16g? im not a DSM guy so i dont really know but it sounds like you will be close to maxing those things out

you'd have em by a mile an hour! Im simply making an educated guess based off his modifications, and experience (judged by the questions he asked).

Plus if he runs a 13.7 he out did the guess and wins.

[Ricky]

13.8 at 100mph

hummm sounds familiar....ass



Side note... you only have 550cc injectors? and you want to run 20-25spi on a 16g? im not a DSM guy so i dont really know but it sounds like you will be close to maxing those things out

you'd have em by a mile an hour! Im simply making an educated guess based off his modifications, and experience (judged by the questions he asked).

Plus if he runs a 13.7 he out did the guess and wins.

i was joking around... just sounded really close lol. didnt know you just guessed.

[Ricky]

Nonsense, with gas 550's is plenty for a 16g at 23lbs. Evo's come with 560's and a bigger 16g and run 18psi from the factory..most turn it up to 26psi. It'll be just fine.

A 35r is a big step up from a 16g. It also requires a lot more supporting mods and something better to tune with then JUST an SAFC.

How about cams? That will help the 16g breath a lot more up-top and will probably be the most bang for your buck.



im not a DSM guy so i dont really know but it sounds like you will be close to maxing those things out

[fawcett]

Nonsense, with gas 550's is plenty for a 16g at 23lbs. Evo's come with 560's and a bigger 16g and run 18psi from the factory..most turn it up to 26psi. It'll be just fine.

A 35r is a big step up from a 16g. It also requires a lot more supporting mods and something better to tune with then JUST an SAFC.

How about cams? That will help the 16g breath a lot more up-top and will probably be the most bang for your buck.


yea i have 272 cams and some head work done

[TbTalon94]

What are your goals?

[fawcett]

i want to get around 5-600 awhp

[FiFdYnUtZ]

not going to be even close...

[Ricky]

i want to get around 5-600 awhp



i want to put a gt35r turbo on it befor spring hits how much do u think thats going to help me out?


you already know what you need to do to get that.... and a lot of other parts.

[TbTalon94]

5-600whp is going to need more then stock internals, and more fuel, and A LOT better tuning then an safc.

A gt35r will do 500-600whp, but you need a lot of supporting modifications to reach that. I suggest you go to dsmtuners or dsmtalk and do a little bit of reading about what guys are doing to reach that power level.

I could tell you right now exactly what you need and how to do it...but what's the fun in that? You won't learn anything!

[Clinical]

as mentioned you'll need a lot of supporting mods...

1000cc+ injectors
DSMLink or something of the sort for tuning
Most likely an E85 tune would be best
ARP Heads/Studs/etc
Built internals.

I think you're a bit over your head going for 500-600whp from where you currently are.
However if you have the money/know how go for it.

[AutoMods]

Everything you need right here. We specialize in DSMs.

To surpass 400whp you will need pistons, rods, l19 studs, built head, link-ems, etc.

400whp can net 11's and can be done much more easily and cheaper than 500+.

Lets see some pics of your car.

[fawcett]

i know i am no ware close to those numbers but i plan on building a 2.3 sroker block when i sale my motorcycle this spring

[slo4cyl]

i know i am no ware close to those numbers but i plan on building a 2.3 sroker block when i sale my motorcycle this spring

If you plan on goin 35R i suggest stayin 2.0l, just my opinion but i love my 35R 2.0l and its a lot cheaper to build than a 2.3l.

[Drifte]

i know i am no ware close to those numbers but i plan on building a 2.3 sroker block when i sale my motorcycle this spring
Let's see the bike!

[fawcett]

2007 zx10r
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... =25217866# (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=205454440&albumID=1692283&imageID=25217866#)

[Ricky]

fun. I want to up grade to a 1000 soon.... but i have to sell both of my 600's first :)

[fawcett]

yea its a mean bike i love it but i just never have time to take it out

[fawcett]

a pic of my talon befor i started bilding it http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... ID=2254522 (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=205454440&albumID=236033&imageID=2254522)

[lovemychevys]

Hey Fawcett i would just get a small block chevy!!!!!

[lovemychevys]

O and nice firebird who tinted the windows they look SWEET

[fawcett]

some jack ass tinted them up ha ha

[fawcett]

just got a dsmlink for my car and was wandering if there is anyware in the state that will dyno tune it?

[FiFdYnUtZ]

red04evo can do a solid street tune for you im sure..

[fawcett]

i can street tune it i realy would like to put it on a awd dyno just to se the numbers it puts out

[speedy6963]

just got a dsmlink for my car and was wandering if there is anyware in the state that will dyno tune it?
We are a DSMLink dealer and have AWD Dyno. We are located in the Quad Cities, would be more than happy to tune yours.

Call for pricing and appointment.

Thanks
John Cozad
Owner
Rev Hard Inc.

[Drifte]

just got a dsmlink for my car and was wandering if there is anyware in the state that will dyno tune it?
We are a DSMLink dealer and have AWD Dyno. We are located in the Quad Cities, would be more than happy to tune yours.

Call for pricing and appointment.

Thanks
John Cozad
Owner
Rev Hard Inc.

Well now your just stepping on the toes of the authorized vendors of the website! :butthead:

[speedy6963]

Well now your just stepping on the toes of the authorized vendors of the website! :butthead:

I do believe we are still a vendor on here last time i looked. And I dont see how offering something he was looking for and not getting offered is stepping on anyones toes.

Thanks
John Cozad
Owner
Rev Hard Inc.

[Drifte]

Well now your just stepping on the toes of the authorized vendors of the website! :butthead:

I do believe we are still a vendor on here last time i looked. And I dont see how offering something he was looking for and not getting offered is stepping on anyones toes.

Thanks
John Cozad
Owner
Rev Hard Inc.

Ha yea I guess you guys still are. :WORSHIP:

[fawcett]

what would be a good turbo for my setup i have?

[Clinical]

Buy my 20g so I have a reason to go ahead and get a holset :P

But really, a 20g would work. Something like a holset hx35 or hx40 would work. GT35R would also work. I'm not 100% on top of all my turbo brands but those are ones that would work good. I'm a big holset fan myself :P

[Xboosted23X]

You are going to need to upgrade your fuel setup if you plan on running a bigger turbo.
If you are looking to a t3/t4 hotside you will most likely want to upgrade your exhaust manifold. They do make adapter plates for the stock exhaust manifold and t3 setups. Which is alot cheaper than a new manifold. They don't flow as well as a equal length though.
It all really depends on your goals. What kind of power do you want? What are you using the car for?

[fawcett]

this is what iam looking at geting right now Garrett Ball Bearing T3/T4E T04E 50 Trim Compress TURBO i just got a t4 turbo manifold and iam and iam looking at geting 1100cc injecters i want i want to hit at lest 450 at the wheels

[AutoMods]

We have 50 trims in stock here in North Liberty, and it can make 450whp. I have them that are t3 flanged and ones that are flanged for the stock mitsu manifold. Its pretty rare for a 50 trim to be flanged for a t4. Even most 35r's are still t3 flanged on dsm's. Journal bearing one will cost you around $725 or so. If you really want to use the t4 I can order the t4 housing for a 50 trim or a new 5857 billet pte turbo $775

Ryan

[Drifte]

Or go for the billet PTE6262sp like everyone else is doing right now. You would be surprised at the price you can get one of those..just ask that guy ^

[TbTalon94]

He probably meant a T3 manifold.

Is it a Turbonetics/ebay t3 cast manifold?

[fawcett]

it is a t3 and it a a tubuler manifold

[TbTalon94]

Show a picture. I'm assuming it's an ebay manifold.

[Jappbox]

SSautochrome/XS power for the win.

[fawcett]

it is iam sure i got it off some one traded safc for it