5.0 badge has returned

[85XR7Project]

Thought I'd share this since the 5.0 Embargo has been breached and details are being spilled.

http://jalopnik.com/5434086/2011-ford-m ... e=true&s=i (http://jalopnik.com/5434086/2011-ford-mustang-gt-the-50-is-back?skyline=true&s=i)

http://jalopnik.com/5429980/more-beans- ... 0+liter-v8 (http://jalopnik.com/5429980/more-beans-spill-on-fords-50+liter-v8)

[black88gt]

theres already a thread about this in the domestic section

but heres the real info straight from the horses mouth

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011 ... _Specs.pdf (http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_Mustang_GT_Specs.pdf)

[sparkles]

4,000lbs! Wow. Great motor though.

[black88gt]

l2read

ford said it only gained 10 lbs from the 2010

[sparkles]

I did read. It said 4,000lbs exactly in the specs. 3,875 if you go with the manual with the coupe.

[85XR7Project]

theres already a thread about this in the domestic section

yeah couldn't find it. I was more interested in the fact that the 5.0 BADGE had returned as the title of the thread states.

[Clinical]

3800/4000lbs is still to much :/
I mean look at the 99-04 Mustang bodystyle - 3,300lbs iirc.

I believe my firebird stock was around 3100

Hell all Chrysler/GM/Ford would have to do to easily be at the top is take a good v8, rwd drivetrain and toss it in a 3,000lb or less car.

Incoming Kia muscle car - rwd compact with a 5.0? :P

[sparkles]

I believe the Camaro is already putting out more than that. It's all gonna come down to what the price is gonna be. With all my personal convictions aside, even if the Camaro or Challenger puts down better numbers and handles better, it's not going to sell as well if there's a big gap in price. I'm sure brand loyalty will play a part, but for those not loyal to one or the other, an extra $5-8k is not going justify 20hp.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

Is this one ACTUALY 5.0 liters

[Clinical]

4,951cc :P

[DustinsDuster]

3800/4000lbs is still to much :/
I mean look at the 99-04 Mustang bodystyle - 3,300lbs iirc.

I believe my firebird stock was around 3100

Hell all Chrysler/GM/Ford would have to do to easily be at the top is take a good v8, rwd drivetrain and toss it in a 3,000lb or less car.

Incoming Kia muscle car - rwd compact with a 5.0? :P

not trying to start shit, but im fairly certain 3rd Gen Fbodies were at least a couple hundred pounds heavier than 3100lbs. Wikipedia reads a '91 GTA weighed aprox. 3600lbs. im sure there might be a 100lb or so lee-way depending on make and model, but the Third Gen's werent quite the light-weights Foxbody mustangs were.

[85XR7Project]

3800/4000lbs is still to much :/
I mean look at the 99-04 Mustang bodystyle - 3,300lbs iirc.

I believe my firebird stock was around 3100

Hell all Chrysler/GM/Ford would have to do to easily be at the top is take a good v8, rwd drivetrain and toss it in a 3,000lb or less car.

Incoming Kia muscle car - rwd compact with a 5.0? :P

not trying to start shit, but im fairly certain 3rd Gen Fbodies were at least a couple hundred pounds heavier than 3100lbs. Wikipedia reads a '91 GTA weighed aprox. 3600lbs. im sure there might be a 100lb or so lee-way depending on make and model, but the Third Gen's werent quite the light-weights Foxbody mustangs were.

Pretty sure he was riding the Bias train when he wrote that comment.

[Clinical]

3800/4000lbs is still to much :/
I mean look at the 99-04 Mustang bodystyle - 3,300lbs iirc.

I believe my firebird stock was around 3100

Hell all Chrysler/GM/Ford would have to do to easily be at the top is take a good v8, rwd drivetrain and toss it in a 3,000lb or less car.

Incoming Kia muscle car - rwd compact with a 5.0? :P

not trying to start shit, but im fairly certain 3rd Gen Fbodies were at least a couple hundred pounds heavier than 3100lbs. Wikipedia reads a '91 GTA weighed aprox. 3600lbs. im sure there might be a 100lb or so lee-way depending on make and model, but the Third Gen's werent quite the light-weights Foxbody mustangs were.

I looked it up and you seem to be right - my title says 3100lbs and that's the only place I'd actually seen the stock weight - guess I should of figured the title wouldn't be any good to go off of.



Pretty sure he was riding the Bias train when he wrote that comment.
Oh yeah.. Same reason stock my car made 500hp

[sparkles]

3800/4000lbs is still to much :/
I mean look at the 99-04 Mustang bodystyle - 3,300lbs iirc.

I believe my firebird stock was around 3100

Hell all Chrysler/GM/Ford would have to do to easily be at the top is take a good v8, rwd drivetrain and toss it in a 3,000lb or less car.

Incoming Kia muscle car - rwd compact with a 5.0? :P

not trying to start shit, but im fairly certain 3rd Gen Fbodies were at least a couple hundred pounds heavier than 3100lbs. Wikipedia reads a '91 GTA weighed aprox. 3600lbs. im sure there might be a 100lb or so lee-way depending on make and model, but the Third Gen's werent quite the light-weights Foxbody mustangs were.

Correct sir. Right around 3400-3600 depending on options and fluid levels.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

yeah, all of those weights seem a little on the low side you posted...

[Domestic Disturbance]

Badge is a cool idea. Have to see one in person to see how I feel about it in real life. That power jump is gonna be worth the added weight imo. It had to have gained more than 20lbs though, especially being est. close to 4k and the f/r distribution being so much different. Bigger tranny adds to the weight, but would still be more centered, so definitely a beefy engine.

And mamamia, that whole lighter car arguement has been talked about before. Just too much shit required in cars now days. Look at the vette, with an all aluminum engine, composite/carbon fiber parts, light chassis, no rear seats, fairly small car, they still are over 3000lbs. Anything lighter than that you're going to a much smaller powerplant.

[Sledge_WS6]

I think that we are going to see weight continue to climb as time goes on, obviously. We keep having to add safety features and crap that people really don't need. I mean...I got better gas mileage...both times I took off my cats. That is why I think the mid 90s-early 2000 cars will always have the advantage because we don't have to deal with that stuff, plus we have what is still...modern technology. The an iron block was used for the better part of forever in the car world. Until the find a way to make a carbon fiber engine, I think were good.
I bet it runs faster than the new Camaro though if it stays under 4000 lbs and Ford put something decent in there to get the power to the ground. Sorry fellow GM fans.

[black88gt]

Ford said it was 10 lbs heavier in the press release.

"Especially as the current Mustang GT (315-hp, 320 lb-ft of torque) hits 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and runs the quarter in 13.5. Oh, according to Ford, the new 5.0 weighs just ten pounds more than the outgoing GT. We like that last bit very much."

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/28/2011 ... 3#thankYou (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/28/2011-ford-mustang-gt-offcially-rolls-with-a-5-0-v8/3#thankYou)

Couldnt have gained much more, fuel economy is the same w/ a single OD trans and more power. Obviously that weight is a stripper car.

Camaro has its work cut out for it. On paper it looks like it will be outperformed in just about every aspect. Price will probably increase to match the Camaro is the downside.

[black88gt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlR8hbpkHkw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvLEx10KgE

[Sledge_WS6]

Yeah, a decent Camaro would have more than the standard features, thus about $37.5-40k to get a non-stripped down one. I bet the Mustang GT ends up costing right around $35k fully equipped.

[sparkles]

Ford said it was 10 lbs heavier in the press release.

You keep saying that, yet the link posted with Ford's specs says 4k. Soo...which is it? What did the last model weigh?

[Mufflover]

here we go again a bunch of 5slows running around on the streets.

[sparkles]

here we go again a bunch of 5slows running around on the streets.

You forgot the . 5 . Slow

[K-ville]

even if the camaro whoops up on it im still pumped because this is just another step up the ladder towards epic improvments in both cars trying to one up each other!
I hope dodge gets it together and builds a better competitor for these two as well

[sparkles]

even if the camaro whoops up on it im still pumped because this is just another step up the ladder towards epic improvments in both cars trying to one up each other!
I hope dodge gets it together and builds a better competitor for these two as well

That's true, but I just hope they don't price them out of the affordable market.

[K-ville]

even if the camaro whoops up on it im still pumped because this is just another step up the ladder towards epic improvments in both cars trying to one up each other!
I hope dodge gets it together and builds a better competitor for these two as well

That's true, but I just hope they don't price them out of the affordable market.

I dont think ford will but the camaro may get a bit out of reach since they are already up a bit from the stangs but hopefully GM realizes it as well and gets rid of some of the options/crap guys can go without in exchange for performance

[sparkles]

I definitely agree with Mopar needing to do something. I think if there's enough competition between the 3, it'll help with prices.

[K-ville]

I definitely agree with Mopar needing to do something. I think if there's enough competition between the 3, it'll help with prices.

yea thats my point exactly i dont care who is on top as long as they are all fighting for it

[black88gt]

Ford said it was 10 lbs heavier in the press release.

You keep saying that, yet the link posted with Ford's specs says 4k. Soo...which is it? What did the last model weigh?

ford said 10 lbs more

then you looked at the ESTIMATED weights. do you see there being that big of a difference in the weights?

on another note the oil change interval is now 10k miles w/ 5w20

[sparkles]

Ford said it was 10 lbs heavier in the press release.

You keep saying that, yet the link posted with Ford's specs says 4k. Soo...which is it? What did the last model weigh?

ford said 10 lbs more

then you looked at the ESTIMATED weights. do you see there being that big of a difference in the weights?
Not really, that's why I asked what the weight of the current one was.


on another note the oil change interval is now 10k miles w/ 5w20
I saw that too. They get away with that in part by having such an 8 qt. capacity I assume. Along with better oils.

[85XR7Project]

here we go again a bunch of 5slows running around on the streets.

and the Camaro's of the day were so much better :roll:

[K-ville]

here we go again a bunch of 5slows running around on the streets.

and the Camaro's of the day were so much better :roll:

the fait of the new stuff is yet to be decided but i know im biased and having said that first i will now go out on a limb and say that the 5.slow's your reffering to are hands down the best bang for the buck no if ands or buts about it... shear numbers prove me right. i think haha just my 2cents

oh and back on topic i love the fact the 5.0 badge is back

[Mufflover]

here we go again a bunch of 5slows running around on the streets.

and the Camaro's of the day were so much better :roll:

Dude is that you in your avatar? I didnt say anything about the camaro, go back to your shed and try to figure out how your going to get your turd up to 150hp.

[Domestic Disturbance]

even if the camaro whoops up on it im still pumped because this is just another step up the ladder towards epic improvments in both cars trying to one up each other!
I hope dodge gets it together and builds a better competitor for these two as well

Yup. Happy to see ford making a decent powered engine for the masses. Gen IV sbc's are right around the corner, so aside from getting the LSa next year we chevy guys are probably going to be waiting for the new vette to come out and bring a new engine with it.

And Camaro's aren't as expensive as everyone preaches. Mcgrath had a black 1SS Manual for 31k.

[85XR7Project]

here we go again a bunch of 5slows running around on the streets.

and the Camaro's of the day were so much better :roll:

the fait of the new stuff is yet to be decided but i know im biased and having said that first i will now go out on a limb and say that the 5.slow's your reffering to are hands down the best bang for the buck no if ands or buts about it... shear numbers prove me right. i think haha just my 2cents

oh and back on topic i love the fact the 5.0 badge is back

Agreed, I'm happy to see the moniker has returned.

As for you muff, I don't think you've ever told anyone what you drive so I wouldn't be bad mouthing my Merc or my engine building capabilities.

[black88gt]

Ford said it was 10 lbs heavier in the press release.

You keep saying that, yet the link posted with Ford's specs says 4k. Soo...which is it? What did the last model weigh?

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011 ... _Specs.pdf (http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_Mustang_GT_Specs.pdf)

ford updated their site

[K-ville]

3600 to 3800 sounds alot better but its still too much imo

[allgo]

here we go again a bunch of 5slows running around on the streets.

and the Camaro's of the day were so much better :roll:

the fait of the new stuff is yet to be decided but i know im biased and having said that first i will now go out on a limb and say that the 5.slow's your reffering to are hands down the best bang for the buck no if ands or buts about it... shear numbers prove me right. i think haha just my 2cents

oh and back on topic i love the fact the 5.0 badge is back

Agreed, I'm happy to see the moniker has returned.

As for you muff, I don't think you've ever told anyone what you drive so I wouldn't be bad mouthing my Merc or my engine building capabilities.

I think he has a mopar that doesnt run so he has a project to..lol

[sparkles]

Ford said it was 10 lbs heavier in the press release.

You keep saying that, yet the link posted with Ford's specs says 4k. Soo...which is it? What did the last model weigh?

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011 ... _Specs.pdf (http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_Mustang_GT_Specs.pdf)

ford updated their site

That sounds more reasonable then. Looks like numbers will be good then. I still hate the looks of them though. Same could be said by some regarding the Camaro though. Just depends on what's your cup of tea.

[K-ville]

Ford said it was 10 lbs heavier in the press release.

You keep saying that, yet the link posted with Ford's specs says 4k. Soo...which is it? What did the last model weigh?

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011 ... _Specs.pdf (http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_Mustang_GT_Specs.pdf)

ford updated their site

That sounds more reasonable then. Looks like numbers will be good then. I still hate the looks of them though. Same could be said by some regarding the Camaro though. Just depends on what's your cup of tea.

wow with that comment you actually seemed like a decent guy rather than the tool we all know you as! haha

[sparkles]

Lol. Fuck you :yawinkle: