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StreetSweeper
12-18-2009, 10:44 PM
Hey guys,

Just thought i would post up some pics of our 2010 winter upgrades to my camaro. Dad and i have been tinkering new ideas for a while now and are doing some prety neat things for 2010. Not all of our projects are finished yet but they are in the works. My goals for 2010 is to compete at the 2010 lsx shootout, All the local heads up H&W Events, make it a round or two in the local 10.5 heads up action. And maybe even cut a few good lights against scotty! lol.. Here are some pictures so far like i said we have a little more to do. We are going to run the same motor and keep trying to go as fast as we can on the 150 shot! I will post again later on when we complete a few more goodies!

Radar ported GM Carb Style intake manifold!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/portedGM.jpg

Custom Nitrous Daves nitrous spray bar inside manifold kit!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/spraybar1.jpg

Blasted and painted valleypan with new bolts!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/valleypan.jpg


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/mockedup2.jpg

Bryant likes the manifold upgrades so far!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/brymanifold.jpg

Billet Aluminum valve covers with purches for coil on plugs!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/vcover2.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/vcovers.jpg

Mezeier Electric Race ls waterpump!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/frontshot.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/mockedup3.jpg

rodcpierce
12-18-2009, 10:47 PM
looks good george!!

allgo
12-19-2009, 07:30 AM
Looks good george, love those valve covers...

Mufflover
12-19-2009, 08:06 AM
looks good what et are you shooting for?

StreetSweeper
12-19-2009, 09:19 AM
Anything faster then a 9.5!

warchild145
12-19-2009, 11:13 AM
This may be a dumb question but if your running EFI why do you have an carb style intake?

Nice setup though, very jealous.

K-ville
12-19-2009, 11:37 AM
x2 on the valve covers those things are sweet!

StreetSweeper
12-19-2009, 12:50 PM
This may be a dumb question but if your running EFI why do you have an carb style intake?

Nice setup though, very jealous.

I have been running the carb style intake for two years now. It's just this year it was ported by Radar , and now has a new custom nitrous set up installed. My car was dynoed with a ls6 fast 90 style intake and then swapped to the carb style and made some pulls and it made more power on the car style set up. If you think about it carb style intakes have been ran since the begining of muscle cars for a reason and thats because they work. lot of guys run them, infact allgo runs a carb style intake on his efi cobra. I guess just the fact that don't try to fix what is already working well on the set up!

JacobS
12-19-2009, 03:00 PM
that new water pump matches those rails nicely

slow ride
12-19-2009, 04:42 PM
Time and time again the carb manifolds always make more peak power than the stock ls1,2,3,7, etc. The power under the curve suffers some, but in a race application with the right gears and stall it wouldn't be a problem. Nice thing is it won't blow apart from a nitrous backfire which can cause big problems since the fuel rails bolt to the manifold. Nice setup should run awsome, good luck.

Domestic Disturbance
12-19-2009, 05:14 PM
What he said. longer runners, less turns, and they are getting as mastered as the pushrod engines themselves. Only downside is hood/cowl clearance, but for a drag car whats it matter.

DustinsDuster
12-19-2009, 05:42 PM
looks awesome George- cant wait to see it.

cool to hear about Radar porting the intake- i guess they were the ones who originally built the big block thats going in my Duster. pretty serious guys out there...

FiFdYnUtZ
12-19-2009, 05:45 PM
loookin purdy!

Vitoman
12-20-2009, 01:15 PM
Looks great, George! The guy that did your intake, does he do it for any carb style intake and nitrous kit? Is it the same guy who ports em? I need mine done and that is trick! Cant wait to see the car going next year.

By the way, did you know the LSX shootout is in St. Louis this year? Im going for sure!!

StreetSweeper
12-20-2009, 01:48 PM
The guy that ported my intake is problably one of if not the best hand porters in the country. he does everything from porting cyl heads to manifolds to machining. Ports all of the s&S cyl heads for the s&s bike engines before they hit the selling floor. He allso does allot of work for john force racing and allot of the pro nhra stuff. and im prety sure he allso designed the chrysler b1 head or blcok not fo sure on the exact one but dustins duster or my dad would problably no for sure. The guy that did the nitrous set up was Nitrous daves nitrous outlet out of waco texas. I did see the lsx shoot out will be in st louis next year and thats what is pushing me to go.

DustinsDuster
12-20-2009, 03:09 PM
he designed the B1 big block Chrysler heads back in the day, which are still some of the best performing heads you can buy. should be fun in a 3100lb car...

OldSkoolRCR
12-20-2009, 03:16 PM
Looks great, George! The guy that did your intake, does he do it for any carb style intake and nitrous kit? Is it the same guy who ports em? I need mine done and that is trick! Cant wait to see the car going next year.

By the way, did you know the LSX shootout is in St. Louis this year? Im going for sure!!


Vito as for hand porters, this guy is one if not the best, He has done alot of cyl. heads for some fast cars in our area, and is also doing intakes for some of these same guys, if you need to get hooked up with him, Let me know I can PM you his phone #...LSX shootout in St.Louis, Dam this is going to be a blast, might even drag my car down to this also. Ed

warchild145
12-20-2009, 03:35 PM
ah I got ya. Very cool deal, learned something new.

Scott
12-20-2009, 05:46 PM
yeah radar does a great job!! I would recomend him to anyone, the heads he did for me worked awesome!!

allgo
12-20-2009, 06:19 PM
He is doing my intake right now

69gt4speed
12-20-2009, 06:45 PM
Looks very good George I like it...

NitrousMike
12-20-2009, 08:40 PM
looking good

AutoMods
12-20-2009, 10:08 PM
What all do you have done to the motor?

AutoMods
12-20-2009, 10:10 PM
What all do you have done to the motor?

OldSkoolRCR
12-20-2009, 10:32 PM
What all do you have done to the motor?
You know better than to ask that question, Nothing.... all stock :biggrin: Everything we own is stock.

68nova
12-21-2009, 05:37 AM
Does Radar have a web site? I could not find any info on them any where....

Good luck with your stock build... :yawinkle:

B

TbTalon94
12-21-2009, 06:26 AM
Lookin good George, should help it move past the 9.5's pretty easily!

NitrousMike
12-21-2009, 06:57 AM
Does Radar have a web site? I could not find any info on them any where....

Good luck with your stock build... :yawinkle:

B
I have been working on a page located on my site for Radars business r&j performance. I haven't published it yet ,and need a few more photos of some of his crazy ass billet heads he makes for tractor pullers. i will be over there today trying to finish decking and fire ringing my block. If you need any other info just ask, I am always there working on something. He is honestly the only guy I would go to in the country. Mike Salkowski www.salkowskimotorsports.com (http://www.salkowskimotorsports.com) 319-464-7319

Scott
12-21-2009, 07:52 AM
Yeah he is definetly old school, pretty sure he doesnt use the internet.. He built that entire tractor puller head on a bridgeport and hand porting!!

RickyBobby
12-25-2009, 11:26 AM
it was the b heads that he made

Simon Cowell
12-26-2009, 02:48 PM
cool, maybe your car will be fast without the nitrous now

FiFdYnUtZ
12-26-2009, 04:53 PM
who the fuck are you?

Simon Cowell
12-26-2009, 05:40 PM
A little sensitive are we? You must be really slow without the bottle huh? http://pediatricdentistryofwy.com/images/baby_bottle_sm.jpg

FiFdYnUtZ
12-26-2009, 06:08 PM
sensitive? i just asked you a question with the ef word in it...btw simon cowell is a fag..

Simon Cowell
12-26-2009, 07:27 PM
I'm not a fag, I'm balls deep into Paula right now typing with one hand. And at least my car is faster then mid 12's off the bottle. And I don't rely on a high stall to do it.

http://whatrichandfamousdrive.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/simon-cowell-with-bugatti-veyron.jpg

OldSkoolRCR
12-26-2009, 10:58 PM
Little more progress.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l152/OldskoolRcr/007.jpg

allgo
12-26-2009, 11:12 PM
Intake and hat are sick looking...

JacobS
12-27-2009, 02:21 AM
mmmm lookin gooooooooooood!

LT1Dan
12-27-2009, 02:36 AM
I'm not a fag, I'm balls deep into Paula right now typing with one hand. And at least my car is faster then mid 12's off the bottle. And I don't rely on a high stall to do it.

http://whatrichandfamousdrive.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/simon-cowell-with-bugatti-veyron.jpg

How did I know whoever this guy is would start talking shit immediately based solely on his screen name??

My guess is that it is Uncle T back to talk some anonymous shit.

BTW the intake setup is looking f-in awesome George.

FiFdYnUtZ
12-27-2009, 11:53 AM
lol you are a VERY misinformed person...

StreetSweeper
12-27-2009, 01:15 PM
My guess is simon dosnt no the differnece between a car set up to run on nitrous and a car set up to run NA or even a forcefed set up. They are all different and generally a nitrous fed car is usually a lot slower off the bottle. but last time i checkd 11.0's or mid to high tens is not slow>

StreetSweeper
12-27-2009, 01:23 PM
Comming allong the intake set up is mocked up and ready to be welded!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/Mobile%20Uploads/1261941817.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/Mobile%20Uploads/1261941685.jpg

90 notch
12-27-2009, 01:49 PM
george who will be doing the welding???Steve o

StreetSweeper
12-27-2009, 03:04 PM
george who will be doing the welding???Steve o


You wanna do it? Today? Ill bring it over.

sparkles
12-27-2009, 03:36 PM
My guess is simon dosnt no the differnece between a car set up to run on nitrous and a car set up to run NA or even a forcefed set up. They are all different and generally a nitrous fed car is usually a lot slower off the bottle. but last time i checkd 11.0's or mid to high tens is not slow>

While you're 100% on the money, I believe he's referring to Ddub. In which case, it makes no difference. Last I checked, he doesn't have a car that was built around a bottle, rather a car that has some bolt on's, headwork, and JUST added giggle gas. Unless someone wants to speak up on how he's torn the motor down, studded it, and dropped the compression for a big hit of juice. Doubt he will. He'd rather resort to name calling when he gets called out like the question dodging crybaby he's been.

BTW, that's a bitchin looking setup. Is that an off the shelf carb hat or did you have that made too?

Scott
12-27-2009, 03:39 PM
you dont need to drop compression to run nitrous as long as your running good gas, Ive seen many high HP nitrous cars with 14:1 or higher spraying huge amounts of nitrous.

sparkles
12-27-2009, 03:43 PM
you dont need to drop compression to run nitrous as long as your running good gas, Ive seen many high HP nitrous cars with 14:1 or higher spraying huge amounts of nitrous.

Yes, but with what kinds of tuning, nitrous controllers, etc. I realize it's possible, but I don't think his car is being built to the same caliber your talking about or what's being implied in reference to a nitrous motor running slower off the bottle than one not built for the juice.

Scott
12-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Its not the compression ratio that makes it sensitive to tune "mainly the timing" its the quench distance and flame speed in the combustion chamber which the valve angle of the head plays a huge role in that as well. If you run a .060 or more quench you can get away with alot of compression.. and you can acomplish that with different thickness of head gaskets and/or custom pistons. With a mainly stock LS-1 I think compression ratio would be pretty low on the list of things to change

NitrousMike
12-27-2009, 06:15 PM
I was running 14.5.1 with my yates headed small block on a 500hit. Running nitrous actually helps prevent detonation with the colder intake charge as long as you have the proper tune. I will be running 10.1 comp. on my 347 lsx with 28+ pounds of boost. Most promod cars are 16.1. Most nitrous guys run alot of compression 13.5.1 and up.

sparkles
12-27-2009, 08:15 PM
Its not the compression ratio that makes it sensitive to tune "mainly the timing" its the quench distance and flame speed in the combustion chamber which the valve angle of the head plays a huge role in that as well. If you run a .060 or more quench you can get away with alot of compression.. and you can acomplish that with different thickness of head gaskets and/or custom pistons. With a mainly stock LS-1 I think compression ratio would be pretty low on the list of things to change

Sooo...back to the topic, are you saying that Fifdy's car is set up for nitrous and is now slower than an all motor car.

I just told you i realize it can be done, but thanks for the science lesson anyway, Mr. Wizard. The point I was trying to make is that Fifdy's car was not in the same category that he was referring to as far as being slower off the bottle. That's certainly not the case. And yes, I'm sure with the shot that he's putting on, compression ratio is low on the list. Not my first rodeo either.

black88gt
12-27-2009, 09:16 PM
haha troll got owned

90 notch
12-28-2009, 06:40 AM
Comming allong the intake set up is mocked up and ready to be welded!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/Mobile%20Uploads/1261941817.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/streetsweeper_01/Mobile%20Uploads/1261941685.jpg
Sorry george just seen this,if it's not done already call me and we can figure something out...Steve o 721-8875

Mufflover
12-28-2009, 08:48 AM
looks pretty sweet.

FiFdYnUtZ
12-28-2009, 11:39 AM
DAMN! sparkles has my car figured out! bolt ons, 853's, and giggles! FUCK!?!? MY SECRET IS OUT! haha...im pretty sure he was saying georges car was slow off the bottle first, then after i said something he said mine was too...just to clarify...

and nice compression comment...haha..my car is around 10.75-11:1

FiFdYnUtZ
12-28-2009, 11:41 AM
and question dodging crybaby? your getting a bit hypocritical sparkie...

sparkles
12-28-2009, 12:08 PM
I wasn't referring to George's car at all. Just yours. To be honest, I wasn't even talking shit about it. The topic was cars built specifically for the bottle and cars that are built and have the bottle on them. Using yours as a reference for the latter of the 2. But feel free to feel important and make another useless post.

Also, enlighten me on the compression comment and how it's nice.

FiFdYnUtZ
12-28-2009, 02:28 PM
because you were insisting that i would be lowering the compression for a "nitrous built motor" when in all reality compression doesnt have much of an affect on the avg shot of spray...

and i was talking about simon making the comment to george...

but feel free to make another asshat post :)

sparkles
12-28-2009, 02:35 PM
because you were insisting that i would be lowering the compression for a "nitrous built motor" when in all reality compression doesnt have much of an affect on the avg shot of spray...

and i was talking about simon making the comment to george...

but feel free to make another asshat post :)

Huh? WTF are you talking about? I never said shit about you lowering your compression. In fact, I was trying to say that your car is not going to be slower off of the bottle vs a "Nitrous built motor". Go back and read. Seems you want to twist it into whatever suits you for some reason, even if I'm in a round about way saying your car isn't slow off the bottle. :roll:

Continue to make yourself look like an asshat, pal.

Clinical
12-28-2009, 02:46 PM
rofl - I come in here to check out build updates and find another sparkles argument - go figure.


Build is looking nice. Loving the intake setup.

Amazing what these motors do on H/C builds

OldSkoolRCR
12-28-2009, 04:31 PM
rofl - I come in here to check out build updates and find another sparkles argument - go figure.


Build is looking nice. Loving the intake setup.

Amazing what these motors do on H/C builds

AMEN!!!!

You know this Fucking website has gone to shit, You can not even post up dates on progress, with out it get all trashed with BS, Why dont you guys go start a thread dedicated to argueing about shit that really dont matter, knowbodys ever going to be right and I dont want this post to turn into 30 pages of SHIT, Thats why Me,George,Allgo,SteveO and Chris, Rossie, Jessie and alot of the others dont post very often. I think Allgo needs to start deleteing this crap thats not posted towards the main topic.

FiFdYnUtZ
12-28-2009, 04:36 PM
because you were insisting that i would be lowering the compression for a "nitrous built motor" when in all reality compression doesnt have much of an affect on the avg shot of spray...

and i was talking about simon making the comment to george...

but feel free to make another asshat post :)

Huh? WTF are you talking about? I never said shit about you lowering your compression. In fact, I was trying to say that your car is not going to be slower off of the bottle vs a "Nitrous built motor". Go back and read. Seems you want to twist it into whatever suits you for some reason, even if I'm in a round about way saying your car isn't slow off the bottle. :roll:

Continue to make yourself look like an asshat, pal.


sorry i must of misread that, i was at work and checked the boards quick..

StreetSweeper
12-28-2009, 05:49 PM
Dad dropped this off with Steve-O today and him and chris dropped it back off tonight.

LORENZOOOO's Robotic style hand weld lol awsome JOB!!!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l152/OldskoolRcr/Intaketube001.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l152/OldskoolRcr/Intaketube002.jpg

90 notch
12-28-2009, 06:04 PM
He does awesome work,boy can weld......Ur welcome,steve o

allgo
12-28-2009, 06:11 PM
LORENZOOO WELDS = AWSOME
I was the one that taught him how to weld...lol no really..lol

OldSkoolRCR
12-28-2009, 07:44 PM
LORENZOOO WELDS = AWSOME
I was the one that taught him how to weld...lol no really..lol


Could you teach me? :supz: No I am rerally happy with the intake pipe, amazing how he welds, just amazing.

DustinsDuster
12-28-2009, 09:01 PM
robotic is definatly the right word- that looks precision!

StreetSweeper
12-29-2009, 07:43 PM
Buttoned up the engine bay tonight, got atleast one more project in line for sure and depending on the funds in the near future might possibly put the laundry on the back. Time will tell! Hopefully we can get to the dyno some time in march and start tuning on the dyno before we head to the track and get some shake down passes to get this car ready for some heads up action.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l152/OldskoolRcr/Ls1anditems012.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l152/OldskoolRcr/Ls1anditems014.jpg

rodcpierce
12-29-2009, 08:37 PM
looking good george!!!

Domestic Disturbance
12-29-2009, 09:14 PM
Looks good. Why'd you change your elbow on the intake though?

edit: nevermind, I just noticed the new TB

90 notch
12-30-2009, 11:12 AM
Looks good!Steve o :bigthumb:

slow ride
12-30-2009, 04:10 PM
This is a much better looking setup than those square intake elbows the FI/nitrous guys always use. I'd bet you bought yourself 3 tenths with these parts, but maybe more. Can't wait to see the difference. I'd like to see what it would do with some sort of 2nd stage.

69gt4speed
12-30-2009, 06:43 PM
^ Yea I agree a round tube for a round tb will always flow more per inch of size w less turbulance, it looks real sweet like some of those turbo setups... Nice welds by the way... :supz:

Scott
12-30-2009, 06:47 PM
the throttle blades and bores straighten out the airflow too, with that and the spray bar system instead of the plate you should alot better distribution too, ya know what that means? more nitrous!!!

OldSkoolRCR
12-30-2009, 07:59 PM
the throttle blades and bores straighten out the airflow too, with that and the spray bar system instead of the plate you should alot better distribution too, ya know what that means? more nitrous!!!

Scotty, I am going to let you pick the N20 jets this year...OK? :supz:

OldSkoolRCR
12-30-2009, 08:01 PM
This is a much better looking setup than those square intake elbows the FI/nitrous guys always use. I'd bet you bought yourself 3 tenths with these parts, but maybe more. Can't wait to see the difference. I'd like to see what it would do with some sort of 2nd stage.

Your not the only one, he wants a 2nd stage also :biggrin: , they say those spray bars will flow 400+

slow ride
12-31-2009, 01:19 PM
Is that thing a iron or aluminum block? I'd assume iron since I think it's a 408, but not sure if it was mentioned. Whats it got for heads/cam and stuff. I understand if thats to much infor to give out though :) It't hard to go by chassis dyno numbers through a unlocked auto, but just curious as to the power numbers.

Domestic Disturbance
12-31-2009, 01:51 PM
I believe its Aluminum. A LS2 402 with L92s if I remember correctly.

Scott
12-31-2009, 03:40 PM
Hell yeah I'll pick some jets out for that biotch!!! yeah just order a black widow plate kit from induction solutions and throw that on there for the second stage, or a fogger...

OldSkoolRCR
12-31-2009, 06:44 PM
I believe its Aluminum. A LS2 402 with L92s if I remember correctly.

Correct, with a TH400 and a 9"

StreetSweeper
12-31-2009, 08:59 PM
We had it on the dyno two years ago and it put down 545 to the wheels threw the 9 inch and TH400 and first pass it went 10.20@135 with like a 1.6xx 60ft so after making suspension adjustments and tuning and tweaking with it, we have mannaged to make it a consistant 9.5 @ 141 with a 1.37 60ft consistantly. Who knows what kind of numbers it is pullen now on the dyno, we will find out here in a few months but like you said threw this drivetrain the numbers havent really done me justic. No matter what it puts down, it wont bother me as long as the ET continues to improve.

Also i have been running this set up threw the factory MAF so this year it will be tuned on speed density.

NitrousMike
12-31-2009, 10:11 PM
next years going to kick ass!!!!

69gt4speed
12-31-2009, 10:29 PM
He already is... left my pos in the dust...He's like my lil bro when he wheeled out the bbc l88 nova w a auto in 76... I thought oh sh-t...I said first here George would hit nines... Sh-t he's got the most motivatated guy on his team..

allgo
12-31-2009, 11:15 PM
We had it on the dyno two years ago and it put down 545 to the wheels threw the 9 inch and TH400 and first pass it went 10.20@135 with like a 1.6xx 60ft so after making suspension adjustments and tuning and tweaking with it, we have mannaged to make it a consistant 9.5 @ 141 with a 1.37 60ft consistantly. Who knows what kind of numbers it is pullen now on the dyno, we will find out here in a few months but like you said threw this drivetrain the numbers havent really done me justic. No matter what it puts down, it wont bother me as long as the ET continues to improve.

Also i have been running this set up threw the factory MAF so this year it will be tuned on speed density.


Dyno numbers are just that george just numbers, I try not to give a crap what rwhp is cause none of means jack shit with out a ET, but pretty sweet how you guys went from 10.20s to the 50s...

StreetSweeper
12-31-2009, 11:42 PM
Spring can't come soon enuff! Hopefully we can get our windows blackened up before then to!

NitrousMike
12-31-2009, 11:49 PM
when I had my 01 trans am, my 2 nitrous bottles fit in the spare tire compartment standing up.

NitrousMike
12-31-2009, 11:49 PM
hide them in there

slow ride
01-01-2010, 02:06 AM
Speed density will be a nice gain with that intake setup. Keep an eye on the head gaskets as I've heard the l92 heads( are they ported or decked?) don't have as thick of a deck as other models or aftermarket heads. Seen some guys lift them easy and others run 8's, but who knows what else thye did to keep things sealed up. Dyno numbers don't really matter for anything anyway I was just trying to get a general picture of what the engine combo was doing. Keep on trucking with it I'm sure it could handle more juice as long as it's got a good piston for it. Hell with another 100 hp hit and the new parts you'll be running with most of the other big guns on the forum.

Next year I plan to do a SD tune to my vette to eek out a few more hp and home to tame some of the low rpm surging in drivability. Maybe a stand alone fuel system and plate kit, but not like it would do much without a tire to hold it.

OldSkoolRCR
01-01-2010, 09:29 AM
Has Un-ported, and slightly decked L92s, It is also Head studed, We plain to toss a bit more juice to it, but not right away, I am having it tunned on the same #s as last year, then we will work it from there, maybee up to 200/250. It ran 9.50s last year, If it runs in the 30s I will be happy, Whats funny is last year everytime out it just impressed us more as I had no expectations for it to run what it did, So I dont want to get all worked up with low ET #s and be dissapointed...lol Ed.

StreetSweeper
01-01-2010, 11:33 AM
It has diamond pistons!

K-ville
01-01-2010, 11:53 AM
thats impressive guys congrate on making simple haul ass. Im gonna have to recruit you two for your secrets to help me build my TBSS! there wont be any threat from it since it weighs 5000 pounds but it would be alot of fun on parts runs haha

Scott
01-01-2010, 01:01 PM
shit my car on a chassis dyno made 375 to the back tires!! and on a engine dyno it struggled to hit 570hp! Mike can vouch for that one.. I hate dynos

Domestic Disturbance
01-01-2010, 01:29 PM
thats impressive guys congrate on making simple haul ass. Im gonna have to recruit you two for your secrets to help me build my TBSS! there wont be any threat from it since it weighs 5000 pounds but it would be alot of fun on parts runs haha
Those are sweet. You follow the one planetLSX was building up? Got it going pretty quick for next to nothing. If its a rwd, build that trans up, slicks, and theres so much you can do. Thank GM for that 14 bolt too, assholes

slow ride
01-01-2010, 01:39 PM
Only way to use a dyno is before and after results with your car. So many different dynos out now and some have a magic knob for better gains. Dynojets are pretty comparable across the country, but everything else is just hit or miss. Use to be mustang dynos always read lower than dynojets but I've seen some that read higher. People do all sorts of weird nonrealistic shit on the dyno just to get a better number which is shit.

My turd vette was done many different times at Speed inc and the overlays always look close except for making more power here or there. Unless it's a manual transmission on a dynojet I have a hard time comparing the numbers from different people. 1/4 mile times can be a good indication or performance, but the higher the power levels get(especially in a stick car) the harder it is to launch the car and stick it. Poor clutch action, slow shifting, etc, etc can shave off many tenths and mph off a good pass. Then there is the broken parts (that follow me like the plague;)

Anyway good luck with it hope it runs out well.

K-ville
01-01-2010, 02:46 PM
thats impressive guys congrate on making simple haul ass. Im gonna have to recruit you two for your secrets to help me build my TBSS! there wont be any threat from it since it weighs 5000 pounds but it would be alot of fun on parts runs haha
Those are sweet. You follow the one planetLSX was building up? Got it going pretty quick for next to nothing. If its a rwd, build that trans up, slicks, and theres so much you can do. Thank GM for that 14 bolt too, assholes

mines a 3SS so ive got AWD and all the other goodies so shes extra piggy but it will still get built someday. and the trans has already been beefed up since it let go at a stock 42000 miles

OldSkoolRCR
01-01-2010, 06:24 PM
Only way to use a dyno is before and after results with your car. So many different dynos out now and some have a magic knob for better gains. Dynojets are pretty comparable across the country, but everything else is just hit or miss. Use to be mustang dynos always read lower than dynojets but I've seen some that read higher. People do all sorts of weird nonrealistic shit on the dyno just to get a better number which is shit.

My turd vette was done many different times at Speed inc and the overlays always look close except for making more power here or there. Unless it's a manual transmission on a dynojet I have a hard time comparing the numbers from different people. 1/4 mile times can be a good indication or performance, but the higher the power levels get(especially in a stick car) the harder it is to launch the car and stick it. Poor clutch action, slow shifting, etc, etc can shave off many tenths and mph off a good pass. Then there is the broken parts (that follow me like the plague;)

Anyway good luck with it hope it runs out well.

You need to come to CFR this year with your Vette and make a few passes, Maybee you and Jeffery can race, the Vette vs T/A?...lol

slow ride
01-01-2010, 06:53 PM
Only problem is if he sprays it he'll win :( If his heads turn out well and with the cam he is using it will probably go mid 11's all motor with some traction. He'll be looking for a 12 bold before to long though :)

Only time out with the vette I broke the clutch, then last year broke the rear end on the street. It's all good now, but after building a new house I'm a little nervous to break something right away. I need to build something with a rock solid drivetrain and turbos, big turbos. :supz:

69gt4speed
01-01-2010, 07:15 PM
I'd be game also since I didn't get to run taylor.. We are similar in hp but you are much lighter, but stick vs stick could even it out, idk. Slap some et streets on... I def going to practice this yr at cfr, otherwise Joe will really make me look bad in the manual runoff. Idk if I can cut a light like that again. My ford pos vs vette turd... I'm kidding.. I luv my blu 03 like you do the blu vette..

I plan to go to clinton il they have a dynojet and strapped down 100's of cars, I'm tired also of all different weird #, not saying you can't tune on say trents but to get a idea if something is wrong or all is ok vs other similar dynojet 03's.. Also like Scotty said need to look into a 4 bank chip and a 3 position switch. I might drive to speed inc also.

slow ride
01-01-2010, 09:00 PM
I'd at least need a set of dr's or if I did anything bias ply I'd want front runners to match to keep the car stable on the big end. Honestly I hate the way the car shifts right now. I need to get the clutch releasing higher with a shim or adjustable master. If I could do it all over again I'd ge a different clutch over the spec 3+. It holds lots of power, but the heavy disk is hard for the syncros to do there job. Add the disk weight to the torque tube driveshaft weight (remember vettes have the driveshaft before the trans) and it's just overworking the transmission. It's like the combo of rotating weight and clutch draging at high rpm block out fast shifts.

Then there is the whole thing about vette drivetrains sucking to r&r if something breaks.

Anyway back on topic

Domestic Disturbance
01-01-2010, 10:49 PM
I did an adjustable tick master recently and its night and day shifting it now. Yet to put my panel back in cause I never got around to a nice flat parking lot to get it adjusted just right. Was waiting to do it after the clutch was broken in. Definitely off topic.

NitrousMike
01-02-2010, 09:24 AM
shit my car on a chassis dyno made 375 to the back tires!! and on a engine dyno it struggled to hit 570hp! Mike can vouch for that one.. I hate dynos
I here yeah, I only like dynos to get cars and engines tuned enough so they dont grenade then put the final touches at the track. dyno numbers and flow numbers dont mean shit.

69gt4speed
01-02-2010, 10:21 AM
George has done good w Ed helping. I always said they were a good team....Sorry got off topic... I never figured the camaro go that fast w a lot of stock parts or hold up. I am impressed for sure... Beats the old talon hands down.. Though we used to roll out almost every weekend after he did something.

snickerlicker
01-02-2010, 01:28 PM
Domestics ftw!!! Only way to go. Looks good George and Ed

OldSkoolRCR
01-02-2010, 03:58 PM
Thanx guys, now if it runs somewhat faster and dont go BOOM!!! we will be really happy, changed up the exhaust, and lost 65.8lbs in all that 4" Mufflex race system that was on it, shit the weight savings should be worth something...lol

NitrousMike
01-02-2010, 04:55 PM
im thinking 9:20s with wheelie bars lol

StreetSweeper
01-02-2010, 08:49 PM
I don't no about the wheelie bars? That might be a last resort option. You know me im all about bumper dragging. But a 9.20 would deffinentaly put a smile on my face. lol

FiFdYnUtZ
01-03-2010, 11:22 AM
shit with a chute, wheelie bars, window net, and 8.50 cage you should change your screen name to TRACKsweeper ;) just playin georgio..

StreetSweeper
01-03-2010, 11:31 AM
Probably should, as you get older you get wiser. you still have a year or so before you need to start acting right! You will figure it out sooner or later i got faith in ya! LOL

OldSkoolRCR
01-03-2010, 01:26 PM
NO WHEELIE BARS allowed in the house hold! Scrap it, Drag it, or Rip the bumper OFF!!! But NO BARS!

Rogue86
01-03-2010, 02:34 PM
Looks good. Hope you guys come down and play with the fast cars at Eddyville. We've got some very good stuff in the works for this year!