2010 cobra jet 475 hp

[69gt4speed]

Cobra jet for 2010 has been upgraded w new hp rating of 475...

New alum block, s/c, maf, shifter, different gauges and switches. Yea that's a 3.4 whipple... so it's 475 hp instead of 425/430 hp. I suspect the modified ford gt block, unconfirmed.
This is the mule at milan. Check out the 2 videos below...

Pics...
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/2010cjtest_03.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/09/2010cjtest_04.jpg
Video
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2010 ... 704568.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2010-Cobra-Jet_704568.htm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVgK3dipbwg

[XR4LIFE]

Holy mother of god thats sick :WORSHIP: :WORSHIP: :WORSHIP: :WORSHIP: :WORSHIP:

[69gt4speed]

That looks to be a pretty small pulley there. The old one had a bigger crank pulley also. Yea it looks like 475 crank hp. :bigthumb: I'd say a 9.5 sec capable nhra stock factory car. That is insane think about it... Old days it was 12 sec. range cars.

[69gt4speed]

Btw you chevy guys.... I would also be happy if they stuck a zr1 based mtr in a light camaro for some real head to head banging. Call it 475 crank hp I don't care. As it is now everyone else is complaining on the 09 cj. They are running around a 9.7 et at best w the tvs s/c. I figure this one can run 9.5's. That's w nhra approved "stock" parts. I figure another 75 whp w this setup over the old one at least.

[Domestic Disturbance]

That thing is gonna move out. I believe camaros in white just went into production, so hopefully there will be some competition

[XR4LIFE]

That thing is gonna move out. I believe camaros in white just went into production, so hopefully there will be some competition

Nope it wont be a competition at all. hahaha JK kitch

[XR4LIFE]

"Exact specifications are being finalized, but the initial plan is for the '10 Cobra Jet to have a 425-hp 5.4-liter supercharged engine from the Ford Racing Performance Parts catalog, but with an option to upgrade to an estimated 475-hp aluminum block engine. Likewise the 6-speed manual transmission that was available in the '08 Cobra Jet will be standard, but an option to upgrade to 5-speed Liberty manual transmission or a race prepped automatic transmission will be available. Other '10 Mustang Cobra Jet upgrades include an 8.50et NHRA certified roll cage and lightweight racing brakes."

Sounds like its gonna be pretty quick car...

[Domestic Disturbance]

haha well if there is any competition it wont be direct GM production vehicles. Just rolling chassis. Thats what blows.

I like those trunk pins too. Never seen them done like that

[69gt4speed]

Yea I'm with you Kitch, right now camaros are doing well, be the time to roll out a few track zr1 or even ls7 camaros imo. Same w nascar next yr. I see the cj running hard, I want to go do something w the blue car or buy a cj if I could.

[85XR7Project]

Dodge has a track optioned Challenger but those things are way to heavy, I'd like to see what the GM brass could drum up for the Camaro, they usually make some pretty neat monsters when they want to.

[sparkles]

Pretty quick car straight from the factory.

The thing I don't get is what's the difference between buying a Cobra and doing the mods vs. buying a CJ? Isn't there a big price difference between the 2? Plus, how do they rate the Cobra at 550 and the CJ at 475?

School me!

[69gt4speed]

Basically to run nhra stock class every part on the car has to be approved including safety, the engine and all parts, tranny, rearend, weight, lots of lil things. It will also have a hp rating determined by nhra. Back in the old days ford ok lied about the 428cj at 335 gross hp. So it had a advantage for a while. And won big a few races, then it got refactored to 425 hp....New cobra jet has no title, can't be licensed, no converters, no air bags, etc. etc. last yr it was 69k each. But a winning race car for nhra is expensive.

Fast forward... to today... Ford does it again, 425 rated crank hp for the 08 cj when actually it's over 600 whp. at 3265# = 9.7 ets. Now the 2010 cj w the optional engine might be rated at 475 crank hp. Everybody does this btw, no way a "stock ls1 camaro" can run low 11's. Cheat where you can. It is bracket racing though basically... you might be running a 15 sec. car when you have a 10 sec at best one. You instead bend the throttle linkage for a 10.500 everytime w .000 reaction time so total time is 10.500. That is what you post and say i.e. 10.500. He gets a 4.5 sec jump. You can be a winner if he does not run 15.000 plus reaction time of .000 sec.

[69gt4speed]

I hope that somewhat explains it... In nhra stock rules there are specs for every approved part and blueprint engine specs. You can't slip a out of spec cam in or even like for me a smaller upper pulley or maybe even a cai air filter. Somebody can protest... then you tear down the engine.. needless to say lots of bs to make sure you are not cheating. Get caught they can ban you. So you want a low hp rated engine w ability to make more hp than it is rated and run a lil bit under its potential everytime exactly the same. Turbo cars are almost non existant as they can cheat way too easy w boost pressures and might not be able to tell w/o data recorders.

[black88gt]

here we go

http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/112 ... index.html (http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/112_0909_chevrolet_camaro_z28_is_go/index.html)

[Domestic Disturbance]

here we go

http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/112 ... index.html (http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/112_0909_chevrolet_camaro_z28_is_go/index.html)
:hedbang:

[FiFdYnUtZ]

i like that hood!

[FiFdYnUtZ]

funny when chevy puts blowers on their cars they seem to produce more power than the contrary???? ;) jk ford guys...

[stangvortech]

it looks more like a ss to me with that hood and the 10 spoke rims like kitch's.

[85XR7Project]

funny when chevy puts blowers on their cars they seem to produce more power than the contrary???? ;) jk ford guys...

You always have to do that don't you? Always need to perpetuate the Ford .vs. Chevy thing? Ford is still better than Dodge :yawinkle: . Funny, Ford still has their money and credibility too :neener:

[FiFdYnUtZ]

does their credibility get their cars faster down the track? noooope :) haha you gotta know by now im just doing it to get you guys going...pull your panties out of your ass and quit sounding like a nagging girlfriend

[85XR7Project]

Meh, I'm over it. I find it hilarious.

[69gt4speed]

Bottom line chevy won't produce a certified nhra stock car..... So any talk about it being faster is a moot point... If not certified at xxx hp then it can't race in nhra stock period... You can't run a cam or whatever w/o nhra approval. Otherwise it's illegal period. You're a college kid, get that in your head... Otherwise it's like my bark dogs... they bark at whatever noise...I understand you now being a ls1 fan but crap, rules are rules. A zr1 would be rated at 605hp if it was certified. And has to be completely stock or have certified parts. That would be a huge disadvantage vs a 3265# stang rated 425hp by nhra and putting out over 600 whp. Or a 475 hp one putting out even more whp. Whipple prob 15% more efficient than the tvs at same boost.

Way I see it a lsx is a ford fe crossbolt block w windsor heads. Stuff made back in 1964 w some improvements. It has more c.i., downsize it to 331 c.i. see how that turns out w a .391 lift cam. It doesn't have the valve curtain area to flow good at that lift. You need at least a .600 lift cam to do it w a 2.00" intake. The only thing a 4v ford doesn't have is the bore spacing for big c.i. yet. In april that will change I believe. I guarantee right now if the 475hp cj is certified, it will run faster than any nhra stock car in history. Right now the 425hp version has already done it. A 9.7 et from a nhra stock car... The chevy and dodge boys are bitching hard core... why if ford 4v 331 c.i. is pos?

[Mufflover]

hey tintynutz you going out and buying the new 2011 firebird?? oh sorry, turds are turds.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

rob, im not talking about being "certified" blah blah, who cares...im talking abbout what outperforms what...

[85XR7Project]

Riiiiiight, looks to me like the Camaro has a tough enough time with the current 4.6 3Valve. I have a feeling the new 5.0 will hurt it a bit more.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

chevys answer with the z28 will be more then plenty i would think...

[Domestic Disturbance]

Riiiiiight, looks to me like the Camaro has a tough enough time with the current 4.6 3Valve. I have a feeling the new 5.0 will hurt it a bit more.

False.

[85XR7Project]

chevys answer with the z28 will be more then plenty i would think...


Have they actually confirmed this car or is it still living in Limbo? Remeber we will also have a special model each year. Boss 302 and the like.

[69gt4speed]

rob, im not talking about being "certified" blah blah, who cares...im talking abbout what outperforms what...

Well I started talking about a nhra stock certified car, the 2010 mustang cobra jet. So you know a stock certified Pontiac formula base model has gone low 11's. The ram air model is factored a higher hp so not as competitive. No where in this thread did I mention a 3v. So best a ls auto has run in nhra stock class is a low 11 but a nhra 2008 auto cj has run a 9.7 sec et. Which is faster?

Since we are now on that in april/may job one will be done and the first 5.0 stangs will roll off assembly, soon after that alum mtr gt 500's. And big c.i. truck gas engines, and for that matter the scorpion d.i. diesel mtr w 450hp at 6.7L. Reverse flow 4v head w compound turbo in one housing sitting in the lifter valley. Compacted graphite siamese block w alum heads. All ford design.

In fact why don't you and all lsx fans just write/email ford and tell them what a pos the mod mtr is... Way I see it we will get better stuff... Instead of 5.0 maybe a 5.8 or 6.0. w 4v and a s/c w d.i. I've already barked enough to ford. It worked before when they were trying to shove a probe up our stang azz. I agree in 96 ford should of done a old sbf bore spaced mod 4v mtr. Then we would have a large range of c.i. to a 454. Mod mtr design is plenty sturdy w rods and pistons, I've beat the hell out of mine for a stock mtr. Mod mtr has run mid 6's w a lot of boost at 281 c.i. Heck the import crowd banned that cougar from racing. Mark Larsen made +1000 whp from a stock 04 cobra mtr. Maybe a zr1 mtr can do that, haven't seen it yet. Gm says at 1k crank hp you need the lsx block and heads to do it w 6 bolts per cylinder.

Oh yea btw Scotty ran equal to a 8.3/8.4 in his pos lil guy sbf ford mustang today. I wanted to say congrats to Scotty.

[69gt4speed]

Lol ok Kitch we talk new 2010 3v what you think it might do w gears and exhaust and tires? A stick to boot. Just a joe avg guy w a car. It surprised me. He ran a 12.96 w his bone stock 2010 3v. It's blue maybe why it's fast idk. This is a long damn video... I think it could take down most any s/s w similar mods.. why.. drag tires fit and doesn't have a hopping irs along w +200# lighter. Hennesy only got a 11.67 w a s/c new camaro. Course that's him but he's bragging worlds fastest...lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAjMMlaC ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAjMMlaCuhQ&feature=channel)
12.96 vid bone stock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JttQg0S ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JttQg0SKkU&feature=channel)

[Domestic Disturbance]

Sorry but the 3v 1/4m numbers on avg. blow, and are usually slower than ls1 times. The new 5.0's I realize will be a much more potent engine. 12.9 run isn't bad at all for all stock, they just fail to impress me. Mod for mod I wouldn't be afraid to go up against one. I think it would be close, but my car is 10 years old. Says either a lot for my car or little for that one. I know they offer real engines(4v's) are in better optioned cars that are available. Are the 3v's up in power for their last year?

[XR4LIFE]

Sorry but the 3v 1/4m numbers on avg. blow, and are usually slower than ls1 times. The new 5.0's I realize will be a much more potent engine. 12.9 run isn't bad at all for all stock, they just fail to impress me. Mod for mod I wouldn't be afraid to go up against one. I think it would be close, but my car is 10 years old. Says either a lot for my car or little for that one. I know they offer real engines(4v's) are in better optioned cars that are available. Are the 3v's up in power for their last year?

4v's FTW Im not a fan of the 2010 mustangs maybe Ill like them better with the new 5.0

[Domestic Disturbance]

4v's FTW Im not a fan of the 2010 mustangs maybe Ill like them better with the new 5.0

I think the appearance of the whole car looks a lot meaner on the new ones. Love the 'power bulge' hood too. Its just that backside that I can't stand.

[69gt4speed]

They are 315 hp w bullit 09 mods come standard w track pack. A few have hit 290 to 300 whp. Lot of them at 280 whp sae dynojet. I think a 12.3 12.4 is awesome for just gears, exh. no hdrs and tires. His is running 111 in the 1/4 mi. now w it broke in. Tells me it makes some power somehow. Maybe the guy weighs 100#, idk. All I'm saying is that's pretty good. It would sure run away from a s/s new camaro or your car.

[85XR7Project]

4v's FTW Im not a fan of the 2010 mustangs maybe Ill like them better with the new 5.0

I think the appearance of the whole car looks a lot meaner on the new ones. Love the 'power bulge' hood too. Its just that backside that I can't stand.

The rear grows on you eventually. I think the new ones look much better than the 05-09 Mustangs.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

i agree, but overall im not a BIG fan of any of the new "pony cars" looks...too big and bulky looking..

[85XR7Project]

Now see I like the front of the Camaro but hate the rear. Looks nothing like the 69 in the rear.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

yeah i agree, they are starting to grow on me a ibit but im still uneasy..

[Domestic Disturbance]

I love the rear. I think it hints enough to a 1st gen in the back to look good, 3 carbon copies would get boring.

Rob, obviously I'm not as up-to-date on the '10's. I dont follow '10 camaros that closely either, but I do know there have been some high 12's stock. There's no direct comparison I know of with a geared exhaust and dr car. I think the extra weight makes it a harder car to take out of the hole, but IMO I don't think it doesn't stand a chance against the '10 stang.

[Domestic Disturbance]

Did some more reading, guess you can't gear an '10 camaro yet. Did find a decent comparison I think. LT's, exhaust, CAI, tune, w/drive its 39xxlbs. I believe they said smaller brakes to fit the smaller wheels on to cut a few pounds. Not entirely incapable cars though :biggrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAtnPS4n ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAtnPS4nrk8&feature=player_embedded)

[69gt4speed]

Well that's better than the run of the mill gto for sure. I see somehow they got a tune also which should help a lot. I just don't like irs for drag racing, ok for the streets. Still that lil gt did good for what it was. +200# less w a sra is a great thing esp on parts.

Only a vette is decent for irs and a base 06+ is great. A novice w tc on can drive those w a auto very well. Trust me I know via a coworker. It works. Light weight by far makes a world of difference w 50/50 f/r. What I'd buy for the $ if a gm person. With street tires be a fast car, mid 12's easily bone stock. That's the best gm car imo for the $. A tune and nitrous be real good.

Australian stuff to me is a hiway cruiser. Falcon or holden stuff. I should of went solid myself than worry about crap. Irs always breaks sooner or later w a heavy car. A bad mistake on challenger or camaro imo.. Old guys like me don't care anyway, it's the car looks imo and not breaking. Can't even easily swap in a solid on those cars.

[Domestic Disturbance]

The LS3 vette's are going crazy fast, even in comparison with the ls2's. Best .1L they ever gained. I have mixed feelings about the IRS. It blows from our prospective, but realistically most people these days want the big number on the paper, comfort, and who cares about the rest. I have a solid axle, it doesn't bother me, its part of the experience. But for MOST people my car isn't a comfy ride. My dad's back hurts every time (twice) he's ridden in it. Partly due to age and a bad back, but the axle doesn't help.

I hope if/when mustangs go IRS, the GT500 keeps its live axle and has 'track pack' capabilities.

[85XR7Project]

I hope they wait a while longer before going IRS to be honest...

[69gt4speed]

A stang w irs blows imo. I want at least a 8.8 w 3.73's and 31 spline w carbon clutch plates. A good bearing lower and upper arm would be nice also but not mandatory if a 3 link w panhard bar. I'd rather not have a 4 link fox setup either. Heck I had a 3 link 67 galaxie w a bar, it rode fine w hd 66 7 litre parts. Not the most hi tech but got the job done. Simple and hd. Light weight also.

[stangvortech]

I always loved riding in a irs car. Irs is now a must have for me with my back. I could have easly done a built solid on over the built irs money wise but I need the good ride. The only main down side to me is the weight.

[85XR7Project]

..............and destroyed axles? Can you say 03-04 Terminator? Those cars destroyed stock axles with a 100% bone stock motor!

[stangvortech]

I have dss leve 5's.......

[Domestic Disturbance]

Think he was refering to stock irs vs solid

[85XR7Project]

Yes. The Terminator Mustangs had an IRS and regularly gets traded out for a solid axle. I think IRS is all fine and good but personally I think that there is just more to go wrong. Sure the solid axle is old technology but look at how well the Mustang with the Track pack does with it! I do however think we are approaching the end of the solid axle Mustangs sadly.

[Domestic Disturbance]

atleast its still an option for you guys. Not like it really matters to me, the new IRS in the Camaros is still stronger than my junk 10 bolt. Pisses my off I barely have bolt ons and its ready to blow, tired of listenint to it whine all the time. Bitchiest axle ever

[FiFdYnUtZ]

mines quiet as a mouse! knock on wood...

[Domestic Disturbance]

I'm actually impressed mine lasted this long, just under 3 years of owning it. The torsen probably has a lot to do with it. Took 1 summer with M/T's and leaving from 3500+ hooking for it to finally let me know whats up

[69gt4speed]

atleast its still an option for you guys. Not like it really matters to me, the new IRS in the Camaros is still stronger than my junk 10 bolt. Pisses my off I barely have bolt ons and its ready to blow, tired of listenint to it whine all the time. Bitchiest axle ever

It might be stronger but the camaro weight is a lot. Auto prob ok but dropping it at 4k I'm sure it will hop and break. I saw the hot rod mag where they sprayed it and made over 500 whp on a dynojet. It still did not run that fast 121 mph or so w shitty nitto dr. Had to have a clutch, a mass air, some hdrs, tune, power pipe and filter and 80# thrown out plus the n2o. It made a 11.9 w robin lawrence driving it and he's a champ w a stick. Def not me. I've seen him row a stang for yrs. That tells me they are too heavy and 60ft pretty crappy w/o serious work. No way d/d or I will break into 11's w 20" tires w that car. That's the big deal, tires and irs imo.

A new 2010 gt stang is better, you can put any 15" on there and thats a big deal w a sra and some control arms. A small shot of n2o I would think 11's are there w joe avg driving if the clutch holds. If it can run a 12.4/12.5 w slicks n/a w gears w a stick, then say 75/100 hp jets should get you a 11.8 at least. The debate is always there...lol.. Hell I argued w 2 69 z28 buddies... They needed 4.56 gears in those cars. W a 4 speed it sucked at 55 mph. They were not that light and didn't have the tq to pull say a 3.50 gear like a early stang or a 69 w a b/b. Funny sometimes arguing over same crap. It's all good though. Same story w the boss 302. A new gt would eat it alive and get gas mileage too.


mines quiet as a mouse! knock on wood...
You're a auto even w a stalled converter not the same as a stick trust me rear end wise. That's been proven w a ls mid 10 camaro sprayed w a stalled auto. A stick is just violent esp if the slack is there on launch. You already know that. Really it takes a 9" 31 spline or more to really abuse a stick heavy car. Otherwise ford wouldn't have stuck a 9" in the cj. If you stall a auto via footbrake it takes out all the slack, lot better on parts.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

yeah the autos are definitely a LOT more forgiving on the rear, but my trans already went out so that offsets the cost dilemma haha...

[69gt4speed]

Very few vehicles take a lot of beating, always something breaking, why a money pit... stock clutches.. most are weak also. That is one reason why you buy a cj I suppose. Besides collector status or some bs. You look at most lil guys racing they have a big auto w big rear end, big driveshaft even if a 12 sec. car bracket racing. They don't like jacking w stuff. The bigger guys can afford to repair stuff, have a crew etc. The cj has most all the big stuff already installed, that costs $, hopefully you aren't breaking crap all the time esp if a stick.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

yeah that would be a comforting feeling knowing your drivetrain is solid as a rock..

[Domestic Disturbance]

I've been following the Hot Rod mag. build, and they've made ok passes with it. Again, compare that to what I posted earlier and they are going the wrong way about it. It frustrates me. They are doing what is considered the best way to go on 4th gens, but its not working out. And the clutch confused me too, with speed inc's car was making over 500rwhp (tvs) on a stock clutch and cutting 1.6s and even a 1.59 running low 11's.

That car is making over 600rwhp currently (cammed now) and still on the stock clutch. I understand she's a big bitch, but Hot Rod mag. needs some more passes to figure out how to get the pig out of the hole. Also from what I've seen there isn't much wheel hop issues with it, especially compared to my car. I think from the previous GTO and CTS-v, they've kinda got it figured out. New CTS-v has no wheel hop(if you don't know, the original cts-v's had notorious wheel hop), they weigh 4300 and makes 550bhp. Also, Motor Trend has run a 12.3 with the new V bone stock. I understand at some point it will be an issue, but its not as bad as most assume. Still not my cup of tea, but the numbers don't lie.

Here's the speed inc car times before the cam. They are pretty detailed on how they drive the car.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/2010-cama ... sults.html (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/2010-camaro/1184021-speed-inc-shop-car-results-results.html)

[Domestic Disturbance]

I like this debate. Its made me pay more close attention to the '10 camaro and been more impressed the more I read.

[69gt4speed]

Well just for sh-ts and giggles, a turd 03 has run a mid 10 w the eaton, irs vs irs, s/c eaton vs s/c eaton. Yea maybe it will take a while for camaro as it has lots more c.i. and more weight. Seems tricky to launch even w your post. 18's mostly suck, no sidewall, it would be best a roll car imo. I think a 2010 gt w equal mods will be right there if clutch holds up and a skinny guy driving, throwing out the spare etc.. Get radical throw out the pass seat and back seat.

[69gt4speed]

We know a 03 w eaton m112 has pumped out 540 whp and 600 wtq at least at max settings. I don't think even w c.i. a new camaro w s/c can handle more than 12# boost, maybe they can on race gas... But man that's aftermarket, it does not come stock w that stuff. Most guys will put on the spray and call it good.. stang gt or camaro. Come on +6k is a lot of $. That's one reason I bought the 03, rods, pistons, crank and s/c. Granted it has a pos irs stock but it could go solid w 2k $. That coworker bought a s/s 6 speed for +46k$, he got screwed imo.

[Domestic Disturbance]

He's all the dumber to pay that much IMO, you pay for your impatience I guess. Just sat in one today the guy paid 35k for, 1ss 6speed.

I wasn't stating that the S/C car was better power wise, just that the IRS and clutch could handle that power without issue. My stock/stock arguement is with that low 12's bolt on car I posted earlier. But yes, I agree launching these cars must be a much bigger chore, otherwise consistency would show otherwise. Really waiting for someone to start shedding serious weight, bolt ons, with proper suspension, geared, could be a serious contender. I think half of it is dependent on what is available yet. The car I posted earlier was 39xxlb race weight, so that could still be cut a few hundred easily. With 4:11's you've got 11.5's easily with what I said. The only problem here is there's the tried and true against the all new, and aside from the engine new Camaro owners are waiting. And with s/c'd cars making more than 600rwhp on stock heads/bottom end, obviously the engines can take a decent beating for not being forged. If someone is just gonna throw spray on either, equal mods I don't see one completely overshadowing the other. In the long run, how much power can a stock 3v bottom end take, or make with boost before its an issue? That turbo 3v in town is making 450 and concerned with going any higher. The mustang will need a new shortblock much sooner, so there's some extra coin. Forged shortblock + power adder pushes the price way up. Camaro has its own problems, how much are you willing to take out of the car? I just don't see a solid answer in either of those, both have some give and take.

To help compare with your example of the 540whp, that Speed Inc car made the following.
3.8 to a 3.6 pulley
custom heat exchanger reservoir
Innovators West 10% overdriven crank pulley.. it is 8 rib, but only using it as a 6 rib for now
FIC worked LS9 injectors
10psi
562 rwhp
548 rwtq
This is still with 100% stock exhaust from manifolds to tailpipes.

[69gt4speed]

I don't argue w hp the ls is bigger c.i. it will make more hp and tq w same boost or jets. Just the irs and tires have been proven on a gto or a cobra to suck. Throw in a 3.9k vehicle be a tough road to hoe imo esp w a stick and no gears. Now hard to say about the new 5.0 stang, they may make that pretty tough idk. If good for 600 whp or even 550 whp and weighs +350# less than the camaro, I could be worried myself. A 3 link can launch well on the street w arms, gears and tires. I saw it myself. All that stuff is already here. I know we have diddly for new stangs willing to bang gears here. Mostly old guys with retro ideas. I say a run of mill s/s same thing. Guy at work w 426hp s/s 6 speed says no way vs me w s/c. I invited him to the runoff btw. I invited that 05 vette 6 speed too. The 06 vette is a auto, I asked him to show for a lil action vs the 03. I'm def not afraid of those guys. That's the way it is, I tried.

[69gt4speed]

We won't even consider vs a 2010 opt. cj, that thing should make 700 whp and at 3265# pretty much run away from any factory us made car at the drag strip.. If ford pays enough $ it will be legal to race. Like I said Brian Wolfe is my hero from early fox days. He isn't some bs management guy only. Ford gave him some money to do this. If he can make ford money then he has a job. So far they have done well. Every old cj made some money, that's the bottom line and all were sold. Old ones bone stock made 600+ whp on a dynojet..

[69gt4speed]

Another mule test 2008 w new mtr setup etc... I kind of like this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MdAcIQYJ6c

[85XR7Project]

Badass!

[69gt4speed]

In car video of 08 test mule w 2010 engine and a auto.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmhPfxxnhAM

[69gt4speed]

Some more info from sema show....Sorry gm and chrysler you have nothing.. government money will do that.. Really wish it wasn't so...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K76SBK3Ewgw

[69gt4speed]

another vid of burnout... looks pretty badazz.. Did I hear right a 4.0l whipple?
If so that's bb territory...Ho fibertrends for the hood.. Gotta be bigger than a 3.4l then... 8's w this car sorted out.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxhUFCoo ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxhUFCooEwg&feature=related)

[85XR7Project]

Some more info from sema show....Sorry gm and chrysler you have nothing.. government money will do that.. Really wish it wasn't so...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K76SBK3Ewgw

Did you hear the Z/28 was okayed? Sounds like it will have the CTS-v engine.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

i dont think its having the cts-v powerplant, i thought it was getting a 555hp ls9 style engine?

[black88gt]

i dont think its having the cts-v powerplant, i thought it was getting a 555hp ls9 style engine?

lsa is similar to the ls9, z28 wont get an ls9. main thing w/ lsa no forged pistons

[69gt4speed]

Some more info from sema show....Sorry gm and chrysler you have nothing.. government money will do that.. Really wish it wasn't so...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K76SBK3Ewgw

Did you hear the Z/28 was okayed? Sounds like it will have the CTS-v engine.

Nope didn't hear that... I live in a cave and work mostly...You mean I'm paying for a z/28 to be built.. holy sh-t... So this a racing vehicle or like a gt500kr? I would suppose the latter...

[85XR7Project]

Z/28 is a GT500 competitor now. Looks like Ford might need to step up the GT500's game now.

[69gt4speed]

So it's like pork vs pork? With me helping to pay for it? That's kinda fkd up. It better go a mid 11 w tires then w joe avg. driving....Ford better ready a 6.2l 4v s/c to waste it. I'd love a 3.2k car w alum/plastic frontend.

[69gt4speed]

Well the new 2010 cobra jets are being released. Now remember for ss/ba they need to run a 8.7 at 140+ to be competitive. I'll post up a couple pics of finished product. I do like the front end a lot.. the car looks mean imo. All they need now is seeing if it puts down 800 whp. Right Scotty?
This one is long and pretty detailed on all the stuff, looks well done imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3-GbMTb ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3-GbMTbhxw&feature=related)
This one is doing a burnout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GZ73v5bAXQ&NR=1
All here's all the lucky rich ppl revving several up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKavG_bT ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKavG_bT124&feature=related)

[sLoWnStEaDy]

Well the new 2010 cobra jets are being released. Now remember for ss/ba they need to run a 8.7 at 140+ to be competitive. I'll post up a couple pics of finished product. I do like the front end a lot.. the car looks mean imo. All they need now is seeing if it puts down 800 whp. Right Scotty?
This one is long and pretty detailed on all the stuff, looks well done imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3-GbMTb ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3-GbMTbhxw&feature=related)
This one is doing a burnout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GZ73v5bAXQ&NR=1
All here's all the lucky rich ppl revving several up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKavG_bT ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKavG_bT124&feature=related)


bunch of richies doing the ricer rev :butthead:

fukkin SICK cars though!! and I have to agree, the front end is purely sextasticularister! blower pulleys look really dang big compared to what I am used to seeing?

[69gt4speed]

Yea that blower is a 4.0 l whipple w a big inlet. Only guy around here w similar one was Allgo/Joe but his engine was lil 281 or so. Other words I have no idea the boost level but could guess 21# or so. I just know the car weighs right around 3260#. I always liked the 69/70 front end look so it looks mean to me. I can live w the back though would prefer a 69/70 ducktail back end.

Scotty has said 700 bunch of times and he is lighter so I figure needs at least 800 whp. Really its not a bad deal if you had the $. And may be worth something more someday. Not some cobbled up crap. Hell I paid 31k for a slow turd... Whatever makes you happy. Chevy/ford/whatever. Just seems ford is on the ball right now... at least want to believe that.

[69gt4speed]

New Ford Racing Video at milan last weekeend.... Frp said the scj are going to fly and kick azz.
Ford Racing spent a day at Milan Dragway overseeing the test of the two new NHRA approved pushrod engines. Jim Ronzello (428cid) and Chris Holbrook (352cid) were testing their respective Cobra Jet's prior to competing at the Indy points meet and select NHRA races in 2010. A traditional 5.4 supercharged was also on hand for testing too. As shown in this video, testing exceeded expectations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BblRC0d-Pco

A race forum dragzine explaing the engines..
http://www.dragzine.com/news/ford-racin ... per-stock/ (http://www.dragzine.com/news/ford-racing-offers-5-new-nhra-approved-engines-for-stock-and-super-stock/)

[69gt4speed]

Carl Tasca ran a 8.97 @ 153 mph w only 55% throttle angle and it's a stick version... here look at this .. It's the scj w alum block and whipple 4.0l s/c. Btw this was still factory tune in the ecu besides 55% as it comes w only 46% throttle. It's drive by wire. scj comes w 19# boost stock.
http://www.bangshift.com/blog/BREAKING- ... 53mph.html (http://www.bangshift.com/blog/BREAKING-NEWS-Tasca-Ford-s-2010-Cobra-Jet-Mustang-Runs-8.97153mph.html)

[69gt4speed]

Here's some pics I found of the car.
http://www.bangshift.com/gallery/Carl-T ... llery.html (http://www.bangshift.com/gallery/Carl-Tasca-s-2010-Mustang-Cobra-Jet-gallery.html)