View Full Version : My Run @ Cedar Falls Tonight =)
Caleb
08-01-2009, 12:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywxL5ZdQ4tA
We got up there and got a few passes in. Best was 13.367 @ 105mph w/ 2.043 60ft on regular old street tires made by Micah. We had a bad fuel filter which didn't help the lower or top end much but it still ran decent. We need to change the fuel filter, adjust the pressure regulator, fix a couple of burnt out lights on the car, and she'll be able to run again at near full potential. But were hoping after the tweaking, I wanna shoot for a high 12. So fun tonight to have a decent car running. Some ET's Streets and some nitrous would get me high 11's I'd hope ;)
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5813/dsc01212him.jpg
Right Side of Slip.
Drifte
08-01-2009, 02:51 AM
Havent heard from you or Micah in forever. Any updates for either of you or your cars?
DustinsDuster
08-01-2009, 11:35 AM
congrats Caleb- it's been a long time coming. wish my car was still running to race you- if you had slicks on it might have been a decent race.
with a 125-150 shot, id guess around low 12's, MAYBE high 11's on a cold day and good hook. my 125 shot got me just about a second faster when i sprayed in first gear. as long as your setup could hold it- i'd expect about the same.
Caleb
08-01-2009, 11:57 PM
My car if it were to hook really good it would get up and go pretty decently. I still think its capable of mid 12's at least on slicks. High 12's on street tires, if not a very low low low 13. Keep in mind that 13.3 was with a bad fuel filter too which restricted a bit of the top end.
If I were to run nitrous id be a small shot, nothing huge with my set up. 50-100 at the highest.
I love that video though, just scooted right by that mustang half way down the track and he was even running decent tires too.
DustinsDuster
08-02-2009, 03:04 AM
what gears are you running? per the MPH, id say youre running right about where you should be. i pulled a 1.94 60' with 3.23 gears and street tires when i first built my car, id assume youre running a similar setup, probably need some rear gears and a 3000-3500 stall converter to really wake it up.
sparkles
08-02-2009, 09:53 AM
I've got a NX Lightning Series kit for sale if you're interested. 15lb polished bottle. Purge. NX Window Switch (3k-6k). $500. You should be able to run a 150 shot on that thing all day. I did with my old TPI. Just bump down your timing and make sure you run some decent dead dinosaurs. No corn.
DustinsDuster
08-02-2009, 10:19 AM
You should be able to run a 150 shot on that thing all day. I did with my old TPI. Just bump down your timing and make sure you run some decent dead dinosaurs. No corn.
x2- definatly make sure you run some leaded race fuel, and the general rule of thumb is take out 2 degrees of timing per 50hp on the shot IIRC- took out 5-6 degrees with my 125 shot.
DO NOT skimp on the fuel- a tank full of race gas can get a little pricey, but not as pricey as an engine rebuild...
Caleb
08-02-2009, 10:29 AM
Its 3.23's for that 105 w/3000 stall. I really just need the gears, but if I do that then I cant really drive up there in it haha. I'm running a 650 AVS Edelbrock carb setup running 91 octane. I have hypereutectic pistons and powder metal rods on the engine. I dont wanna get too crazy yet.
And I do think we can get more mph out of it once we take it up there again.
DustinsDuster
08-02-2009, 12:01 PM
you CAN drive it, it's just what you're willing to deal with. i drove my car to earlville once with 3.91's- 3500rpm the whole way screaming at 60-65mph, but i got there and back.
as far as your engine, i ran that shot on stock crank, rods, and KB 10:1 pistons with no troubles at all.
Caleb
08-02-2009, 08:27 PM
Ok just checking, I was willing to deal with Gas Prices, had cost me $30 there and back which wasn't too bad.
FiFdYnUtZ
08-03-2009, 12:38 PM
nice runs! but i wouldnt expect to pick up 4tenths with a fuel filter change lol...
Not a bad run at all. I was going to take my fox body to the track friday until I shelled the trans hahaha.
here is my damage
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg23 ... ans002.jpg (http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/PIMking/Lxtrans002.jpg)
Domestic Disturbance
08-03-2009, 06:40 PM
how'd you manage to do that?
Caleb
08-04-2009, 12:17 AM
nice runs! but i wouldnt expect to pick up 4tenths with a fuel filter change lol...
Well if its restricting some top end power I can see it being possible. Hoping doesn't hurt either :-p
FiFdYnUtZ
08-04-2009, 10:15 AM
hoping hurts when your greatly disappointed by over setting your goals...
Caleb
08-04-2009, 05:20 PM
I know my car is capable of at least 12's with the right set of tires. I wont be disappointed at all. Im mainly up there to see what my first fun car can squeeze out.
K-ville
08-04-2009, 08:45 PM
now you need a nine inch with 4.10s
Fire Hawk
08-05-2009, 09:15 PM
nice runs! but i wouldnt expect to pick up 4tenths with a fuel filter change lol...
I would agree with that statement there.... but it was starving on the runs we made up there that night. The fuel filter alone should not make that big of a difference but the thing was plugged up really bad. With a lil better 60' and finding the sweet spot to shift it at I think the car could go high 12's on street tires. That night was a matter of running and actually being able to see how it would go. Figured out a couple of the problems, once those are addressed then we can run it and see what it likes.
Fire Hawk
08-05-2009, 09:28 PM
now you need a nine inch with 4.10s
Well the engine and trans are going to be put in an 80 Formula Firebird if anything first. The 10 bolt in there should be good if we can find someone to weld the tubes, along with upgrading the axles and related componets needed.
GJenkinsXoXo
08-24-2009, 03:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywxL5ZdQ4tA
We got up there and got a few passes in. Best was 13.367 @ 105mph w/ 2.043 60ft on regular old street tires made by Micah. We had a bad fuel filter which didn't help the lower or top end much but it still ran decent. We need to change the fuel filter, adjust the pressure regulator, fix a couple of burnt out led lights (http://www.ledlightswarehouse.com) on the car, and she'll be able to run again at near full potential. But were hoping after the tweaking, I wanna shoot for a high 12. So fun tonight to have a decent car running. Some ET's Streets and some nitrous would get me high 11's I'd hope ;)
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5813/dsc01212him.jpg
Right Side of Slip.
Nice, actually I know the other guy lol he was a little upset he got SMOKED!
Caleb
08-26-2009, 02:06 AM
We plan on putting some slicks on it to get it in the High 12's. I raced an old 196X Mustang with slicks and I couldn't hookup but I was pulling on him going down the track. My best time on street tires as of 8/14 is a 13.19. That mustang ran a 12.7 I think, and that is my goal im shooting for.
DustinsDuster
08-26-2009, 04:43 AM
Scott on here was giving away a bunch of G60 dirt track tires, you should see if he still has any you could go get...
Caleb
08-27-2009, 01:40 AM
Already got the old ones from a while ago. Still have some tread left on them. Thanks for the referral Dustin ^_^.
Caleb
10-25-2009, 12:30 AM
Micah and my dad ran the car up at Cedar Falls today on the same street tires because the wheels on the slicks had a different bolting pattern. Micah sent me a shitty cell phone pic of the time my car ran. Needless to say cooler weather made an improvement =)
12.879 @ 107.85 12's were in reach on street tires. Now with Slicks? 12.5? :supz: Not bad for a little N/A 355.
Caleb
10-25-2009, 12:37 AM
I should really get my car dyno'd to see what its putting down. Anyone know the weight of a Standard 3rd gen 1985 firebird hardtop with no AC, power windows, and all the basic options? If I had the proper weight with driver i could use a quarter mile/horsepower calc to get a good idea.
sLoWnStEaDy
10-25-2009, 12:46 AM
an unoptioned 3rd gen is going to weigh in right around 3300lbs...
IMO... 300~ RWHP
DustinsDuster
10-25-2009, 02:25 AM
congrats on the times- i would guess a mostly full weight 3rd gen with driver to be around 3500lbs.
Mike@Salkowski-Motorsport
10-25-2009, 08:52 AM
You should be able to run a 150 shot on that thing all day. I did with my old TPI. Just bump down your timing and make sure you run some decent dead dinosaurs. No corn.
x2- definatly make sure you run some leaded race fuel, and the general rule of thumb is take out 2 degrees of timing per 50hp on the shot IIRC- took out 5-6 degrees with my 125 shot.
DO NOT skimp on the fuel- a tank full of race gas can get a little pricey, but not as pricey as an engine rebuild...
you really dont need to pull that much timing, I was only taking out 5 degrees on a 500hit lol, the tune ups they give you are way conservative. Just make sure yuo put some good fuel in and your golden. On my 92 gt I put a 175 shot on it and never pulled timing, that was on a stock short block and trick flow heads and the car went 10.90s at 123
DustinsDuster
10-25-2009, 09:48 AM
yeah, i know its pretty conservitive to pull that much, but its also the safe bet. i know what its like to have a catastrophic failure when money is tight, and id rather just run a safer tenth or two slower.
FiFdYnUtZ
10-25-2009, 08:02 PM
i would start with pulling 2 per 50 and then start adding timing while checking your plugs/knock retard....
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