Another one...

[sLoWnStEaDy]

It is a sickness, i need help!

Just picked up another Cadillac, (for those counting this is cadillac #4, car #6) a '68 this time with 58K miles and a 472 Big Block. No pictures at the moment because that car won't acutaly be here until early next week but it is in pretty good shape, VERY little rust (even less than my '66) interior is in better shape except the seats/carpet. Had pictures on my camera but forgot to put them on my computer and they got deleted to make room for christmas pictures...

However I may be trading one of them (either this one or the '66) for a '91 CRX with B18A1 swap. If i do end up getting it I will be boosting it since it has the LS motor... not going to go insane or anything, from what i have gathered forged pistons and some nice rods will do the trick for my power goals (300~fwhp), I ws thinking about doing teh LS/Vtec but that would cost me a good $1K+ anyways and for a little more i can go boosted so WTH... that is IF i get it. haven't decided for sure...


CRX details:
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1991 Honda Crx HF. B18a1 Swap out of a 1990 LS integra. all CRX SI wiring. Combat body kit. 17 inch rims with BRAND NEW fuzion ZRI tires (less than 50 miles on them). Header, Dual exhuast, intake, short throw shifter, Pioneer cd player with ipod hook up, tokico shocks with gold line lowering springs (rides smooth). this car runs great and strong. BRAND NEW xtd stage 3 six puck clutch with new pilot bearing, throw out bearing and also a BRAND NEW 7LBS flywheel. Also installed a BRAND NEW front solid traction bar to eliminate wheel hop, works like a charm

[FiFdYnUtZ]

cool project, needs some de-ricing though...

[Domestic Disturbance]

thought you were looking for a drift project? unless you're planning on going and getting some mcdonalds trays and calling it good

[sLoWnStEaDy]

IDK... I thought about it pretty hard and I am not sure drifting is somethign i REALLY want to get into. I man i have never even heard of a drift event around here anywhere. However I still might, these just kid of happened upon me. I am trading the '66 for the CRX (tomarow morning) and as for the '68 I am getting, I traded that for a set of rims I had in the shed and a Munci 4-speed from a fiero that i had laying around as well...

I posted those rims up on here once a while back, some vintage US (Indy Mae" wheels with some old school "Twister Traction" or something like that tires, fats on teh back adn skinnies up front. From what i have heard the rims where discontinued back in the early 80's and no one has a clue about the age of the tires... Got them from an estate thing, I have had a few people offer me cash anywhere from $600-$800 for them but i hung on to them for one reason or another...

[krustindumm]

If you need any help on that rex lmk. Should be able to pull 250whp out of that B18, which would be good for easy 13's on the suspension/tires it has on it.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

I will probably hit you up on that sometime... I am picking the car up tomarow around 6pm~ so... I have been on honda-tech, hondaforums and hondaswap, the general idea seems to be that a stock motor should be good for upwards of 250WHP. Forged pistons and nice rods should let me go closer to 350WHP without too much of a worry, according to all of them.

IDK, I have to dig deeper into the '68 and see how much money that is going to drain out but I think i should be able to do a decent little turbo build for under $1K and just keep boost under 10psi until i get the rods/pistons

[sLoWnStEaDy]

cool project, needs some de-ricing though...

let me put it this way... my old screen name was "iluvrice", the body kit and rims and everything will be staying :bigthumb:
I personaly like the look and IMO "rice" really only applies when the car is bone stock and would be lucky to run a 16 and then you throw a body kit on it, paint the interior, get colored window tint, stickers of brands you don't even use etc... In order to justify it in my head, i need to get a 300WHP+ which as stated i am hoping to do...

[FiFdYnUtZ]

to each their own, not my style but if you like it go for it!

[DJ0820]

Nooooooooooooo, CRX's never did look good with kits on them, the other parts that came with it sound nice. Driving that thing is going to make you want to get rid of all those cadillacs. I miss my rex

[sLoWnStEaDy]

Well... It DEF. needs a little more "de-ricing" than i had thought. The body kit is held on with wood screws in some spots, there is glazing puddy slapped on VERY thick so it is busting all over the place (from where they took the park bench off), the body work is just HORRIBLE, the car was white, then badly painted red and now even primer job. they painted right over cracks in the bondo, sand paper gouges etc... and the passenger fender/door gap is REDICULOUS! has some blue "eurolite" gauges, red vinyl over the upper parts of the door panels, red shifter boot, and red e-brake handle and of course you can see the old MONSTER TACH mount over on the left side of teh steering column.
All in all I have a bout a good weekends worth of body work, the interior I will probably take the easy way out and remove all the red vinyl and get some semi-gloss black vinyl die/paint and do the whole interior then just replace the shifter boot adn e-brake handle. The shifter linkages need new bushings (I HOPE thats what it is, with the car in gere the stick moves just like when in neutral) it will need some motor mounts and when you hammer the throttle the exhaust smacks into the car (could be cuased by the motor/trans mounts) The exhaust is a little too loud for me but i figure the turbo will quiet it down a good amount...


I will get some pics up tomarow some time if i can... We are in teh moving process but i should be able to find some time...

[sLoWnStEaDy]

well... here it is in all its "glory"?

As you will see, the car was white, then painted red, and now primered (spray cans). the body work is HORRIBLE and even worse than those people who use bondo for everything because this guy actualy used GLAZING PUDDY for all the body work so every spot is cracking and breaking away Thank God so i can atleast see what all i have to do. The worst of it IMO will be getting that passenger fender dealt with, I still think the body work will all be done in about a weekend.

As for the interior, YES, that is a frikkin NOS energy drink cap for a stereo knob and i did not get the factory one which sucks. Those seats are VERY comfortable though and i really like them! I have all of the missing parts (interior and exterior) sitting in the rear stoage thing and just sitting in the back too.

The under hood shot pretty much shows it needs a little love. It will be coming out anyways for the pistons.rods so i will clean it all up at that time and figure out how to make room for the Holset HX35, probably going to have to go with a 1/2 sized radiator but was THINKING about just mounting it where the air cleaner/battery is sitting now. Of course we are talking some custom manifold work but i can get a flange and some pipes, tack it all up and have someone throw their TIG skills at it. Or I might be lazy and just do the 1/2 rad. and see what I can do with just the mounting angle of the turbo...
However all of that is still about 5-6 months away when I get back so... I only have like 10 days before i ship out so i figure it best to not mess with it until i get back. Although i would REALLY like to, I will just hide it in the garage until then...

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[xci.ed6]

fuck it. build it, thrash it, and when the chassis is toast get another.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

fuck it. build it, thrash it, and when the chassis is toast get another.

My thoughts exactly... except the "get another one" part, it will be more like get a bone stock looking Civic hatch, gut the piss ouit of it and swap stuff over. It was pretty fun driving a 19ft+ long car weighing a couple tons down there and driving this tiny ass tin can back home. the lowering springs and struts make for a pretty stiff ride but i like it. The transmission exploded in the Malibu today so it looks lke Skye is now driving my cadillac and i will be driving this until i leave (9~ days)... I of course took out about $5K+ worth of stereo equipment before i handed the keys over though.

Edit: forgot to say the CRX has an "amp wiring kit" still installed and when i seen the tiny little cabel coming off of the bttery (8awg) I asked my buddy WTF it was. I honestly couldn't put it together, I use 8awg for speaker wire (literaly) and the kit is from Wal-Martso it is more like 10awg really... Thought that was funny

[DJ0820]

I have an amp that says you can use 10 gauge as a power wire.. hehe
Move the battery to the back, it cleans up the engine bay nicely.
Those are some weird ass seats....I want to say they're from a late 80s early 90s prelude. Are they just bolt-in or is it a hack job?
Those tail lights make me want to vomit.

[Stutz]

Looks like a nice little project. I cant imagine how it would sound with the dual fart cans.

[Drifte]

^ I can imagine. Looks a lot like a car my bro had to do some wiring work on a long time ago. had dual exhaust/kit and all.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

The car is from Des Moines... He got it about a year ago, did the B18A1 swap, body kit, rims, etc... just this April he said, He was a complete DOUCHE BAG and reminded me alot of a couple people on here who shall remain nameless...

As for the sound, it isn't too bad really. I was expecting that really high pitch pissed of weed wacker sound but it is actualy a pretty low deep tone. It is just a little too loud, I think once the new "muffler" (HX35) gets put on it will help bring it down to where i want it. I will try to get some video/sound clips before i leave just for shits and giggles...

[Drifte]

suggesetion:
bring it back to the nice white it came factory, its a really nice white. Tuck and shave the hell out of the engine bay. Interior? nay ditch it. If you have to keep the kit, the door peice appears to be missing. I did a minor chop to put an idea out their for ya. With Hondas its a lot of fun and really not hard work. Maybe I should get another one...

[sLoWnStEaDy]

I like that... Espescialy the tails, I HATE the way they look right now, so fukkin ugly!

[CiViC-Wanted]

Just wondering why did you pick a HX35. That seems to be really overkill for that small of a motor exspecially orginally a N/A motor, why not a 14b or T25 for more the range. Im guessing you got a hx35 for a good price, seems there pretty cheap now, been looking at them from my GST.

[FiFdYnUtZ]

i can do some tint on your tails if your interested in the future..

[sLoWnStEaDy]

Just wondering why did you pick a HX35. That seems to be really overkill for that small of a motor exspecially orginally a N/A motor, why not a 14b or T25 for more the range. Im guessing you got a hx35 for a good price, seems there pretty cheap now, been looking at them from my GST.

The rings are shot so when i get back I am dropping some forged rods/pistons in there along with some headwork and will be going for some really nice power. As for the HX35, they really come to life around 15+ PSI and that is what i am planning for daily driving. I was debating between the HX35 (12 cm^2 ~= .63A/R turbine) and the HY35 (9 cm^2 ~= .48A/R turbine) and after a few nice long reads over on honda-tech/com decided to go with the HX35 most likely, plus they are EASY to find and dirt cheap yet are a VERY nice unit capable of some really nice power (as are the HY35s).

In all honesty when the time actualy comes to buy the turbo i may very well go with an HY35 so i can see full boost closer to the 3500-4000 RPM range... I will just have to wait and see.

[CiViC-Wanted]

Defintally check out DSMTuners, they have tons of info for the HOLSET, like make model, and break down, might be a repeat of some of the hondatech stuff, but might be something new too. Lots of flow charts are on there too, seems to be a hot item for the DSMs right now. Better find one quick there defintally going up in price slowly.

[Drifte]

or swap in a different motor and keep it n/a. b18, b20, h22, K, and make some nice power and retain reliability and never have to touch the internals.

[derek072887]

in the original post he says it has a b18a1 swap in it already...

[TbTalon94]

Keith you might want to look into Bullseye turbo. They sell the Holset turbos with a mitsubishi turbine housing instead of the stock giant diesel one. Would make the spool on that turbo come WAY down. For instance a 2.0L spools an HX40 around 4k or so with the mitsu turbine housing.

[sLoWnStEaDy]

Keith you might want to look into Bullseye turbo. They sell the Holset turbos with a mitsubishi turbine housing instead of the stock giant diesel one. Would make the spool on that turbo come WAY down. For instance a 2.0L spools an HX40 around 4k or so with the mitsu turbine housing.


Seen 'em but i was looking to keep this as cheap as possible as i don't really like hondas at all and don't want to spend too much on this car. I just miss boost ever since i got rid of my '91 TSI so... Pretty much going with a "junkyard" turbo, ebay intercooler/piping, etc... Just going to keep this as cheap as possible!

[Drifte]

get a 14b from a local dsmer.

[TbTalon94]

no shit ^

bout as cheap as you can get. Plus doesn't it bolt up easily with an adapter to the stock manifold?

[Drifte]

Yea honda std manifold. Maybe HF mani too

[sLoWnStEaDy]

I was thinking a 16G but was quickly told "it's not a DSM, don't treat it like one" over on honda-tech so i started looking into other options. I can get they HY35 for about $250~ I have seen them go for as cheap as $75 but also as high as about $400 so...

I guess if the DSM turbo qould meet my power goals (300WHP+) that would be an option. I did see the adapters mentioned for a pretty decent price... IDK, I will be back in June so the decision will be made then i guess. Don't point in worrying too much right now wheni won't even be in the same state as the car for a few months...

[Drifte]

Good time to make plans for it. If you go with the b18 and a 14b you wont be let down. You can avoid opening up the engine and just do the bolt on's for fuel etc. Add much more power and your going to run into trans and axle problems as well. I assume this is a b18a1 from a DA, which is pretty good for boost.

[Phantez]

IDK... I thought about it pretty hard and I am not sure drifting is somethign i REALLY want to get into. I man i have never even heard of a drift event around here anywhere.

This is a way old thread that im bringing back from the dead, but just FYI, clubfr hosts drift events nearby (usually within a 5 hour drive). Its all tracks in IL, WI, and MN. Definitely worth it.